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  116. # [03:29] <jorullo> hello guys
  117. # [03:29] <jorullo> I am loading dynamically a js file with dataURLs of images
  118. # [03:30] <jorullo> then I try to add them to scene but first time I cant see them
  119. # [03:30] <jorullo> I need to reload the page
  120. # [03:30] <jorullo> have you got any ideas what can be a reason?
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  122. # [03:40] <ard_> jorullo: are you using onload event? I'm not sure but possibly you need to wait for this to happen even if you're using dataURL
  123. # [03:44] <jorullo> but my dataURL is a varible in the code, then I create a new image and as src I do this dataURL, when the js code is executed it needs to be already downoaded I guess:) so I have no idea what is wrong with it
  124. # [03:47] <ard_> it's downloaded but it still needs to be parsed and rendered, maybe 'load' event happens after that
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  126. # [03:48] <ard_> just give it a try, I have a good feeling about this :P
  127. # [03:48] <jorullo> ok, i will try
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  142. # [04:20] <jorullo> ard_ thanks a lot, I do it a little different way, buy you directed me good way
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  155. # [04:33] <ard_> jorullo: np, glad to hear that it helped :)
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  211. # [06:39] <technocracy> xhtml5: to be or not to be? that is, should I use it. Why or why not?
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  213. # [06:48] <tw2113> xhtml5?
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  216. # [06:50] <technocracy> xhtml5.
  217. # [06:50] <tw2113> never heard of xhtml5
  218. # [06:50] <tw2113> just html5
  219. # [06:51] <technocracy> now you have :)
  220. # [06:51] <tw2113> where's its spec?
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  222. # [06:52] <technocracy> the html5 spec....
  223. # [06:52] <technocracy> xhtml5 is just the xml serialization of html5 markup
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  360. # [10:06] <ill1cit> this channel is quite boring
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  366. # [10:10] <xec_> ill1cit: shhh people are trying to sleep
  367. # [10:10] <ill1cit> *oh sorry*
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  473. # [13:22] <shwaiil> hi
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  485. # [13:42] <shwaiil> Q: For responsive design, I should use the meta viewport. Will this work for older browsers ? Does using modernizr solve this ? Any comments appreciate it. Thanks!
  486. # [13:45] <_shorinji_> out of curiosity, what is a meta viewport?
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  493. # [13:54] <shwaiil> _shorinji_: It's a meta tag
  494. # [13:54] <shwaiil> introduced by apple
  495. # [13:54] <shwaiil> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mobile/Viewport_meta_tag
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  501. # [14:02] <_shorinji_> oh, thanks
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  570. # [15:55] <lulzilla> how do you track file upload progress in html5?
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  574. # [15:59] <danielfilho> !g html5rocks file upload @lulzilla
  575. # [15:59] <danielfilho> oh crap. I always do it wrong.
  576. # [15:59] <danielfilho> hm, bot-t isn't here actually.
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  578. # [16:00] <danielfilho> lulzilla, http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/dndfiles/
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  580. # [16:00] <lulzilla> thanks
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  583. # [16:03] <chomp> http://youtu.be/7nhll1UslDg sfw
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  585. # [16:03] <chomp> oh god, i'm sorry guys. wrong channel. don't watch that stupid video.
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  676. # [18:24] <Jon47> man, webkit has been shitting hte bed lately
  677. # [18:24] <Jon47> they broke box-sizing: border-box in chrome and safari..
  678. # [18:25] <Jon47> i've had a few tickets in for css rendering issues as well
  679. # [18:26] <divya> Jon47: link to bug?
  680. # [18:26] <Jon47> i'm about to file one for box-sizing
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  683. # [18:27] <Jon47> these are the other two I filed for css issues in the last week:
  684. # [18:27] <Jon47> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87023
  685. # [18:27] <Jon47> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87146
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  689. # [18:29] <divya> Jon47: do link me to box-sizing one
  690. # [18:30] <Jon47> actually i'm having trouble creating a reduction of it right now
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  692. # [18:30] <Jon47> but i'll let you know if i can get something going
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  697. # [18:34] <divya> Jon47: k
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  731. # [18:57] <Jon47> divya: actually it seems like it's a bug in the chrome dev tools - the positioning of the elements is all good but the space that is highlighted on the page when you hover over the tag in the dom view is wrong.. very odd little bug
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  738. # [18:59] <divya> o k
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  810. # [19:56] <Voltaire> Hello, in html5 would there be a way to replicate something like this http://www.yourworldoftext.com/
  811. # [19:59] <tw2113> Voltaire looks like it's mostly javascript
  812. # [19:59] <Voltaire> how do you get it so it's one big text box?
  813. # [19:59] <Voltaire> I don't really get how they've done that.
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  815. # [20:00] <tw2113> https://github.com/reverie/yourworldoftext
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  828. # [20:13] <David_Bradbury> One big box?
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  836. # [20:27] <saba> Can anyone explain why this gives an error in W3C validator? http://pastebin.com/fvFgmBND . "No p element in scope but a p end tag seen" is the error, but why isn't <p> in the scope?
  837. # [20:30] <Butt3rfly> because no-one put one there?
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  839. # [20:31] <saba> Butt3rfly: why doesn't the <p> tag before <ul> count?
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  844. # [20:32] <tw2113> probably dom structure is breaking because of the separation and the use of ul in between
  845. # [20:33] <Butt3rfly> why would you need to put the list inside a p tag anyway ?
  846. # [20:33] <tw2113> <p><ul><li></li></p></ul> right?
  847. # [20:33] <David_Bradbury> The <p> tag is automatically closed when it see the <ul>
  848. # [20:33] <David_Bradbury> sees*
  849. # [20:33] <saba> tw2113: no, <p><ul><li>Foo bar</li></ul></p>
  850. # [20:33] <tw2113> good point
  851. # [20:34] <David_Bradbury> Then when it sees the other </p> it doesn't know what to do with it
  852. # [20:34] <saba> David_Bradbury: it seems like that. But isn't that an oddity?
  853. # [20:34] <tw2113> heh, i hadn't noticed the pastebin yet
  854. # [20:34] <tw2113> not really saba
  855. # [20:34] <tw2113> you don't even need </li> technically
  856. # [20:35] <tw2113> <li>one <li>two <li>three
  857. # [20:35] <saba> that's true but it doesn't explain the behaviour of the p tag
  858. # [20:35] <tw2113> browsers/parsers are able to infer a number of things
  859. # [20:36] <tw2113> the browser is seein <p><p><ul><li></ul></p>
  860. # [20:36] <David_Bradbury> Not at all, you aren't allowed to put a list inside of a paragraph
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  864. # [20:37] <saba> David_Bradbury: that's what I'm looking for to confirm. I've never realised before that the p tag is that limited
  865. # [20:37] <saba> in this example it's useless of course, but generally speaking
  866. # [20:37] <David_Bradbury> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/grouping-content.html#the-p-element
  867. # [20:38] <tw2113> p tags are still awesome imho
  868. # [20:38] <tw2113> don't get discouraged <p>, you're still great in my eyes, you can be whatever you want
  869. # [20:38] <David_Bradbury> "List elements (in particular, ol and ul elements) cannot be children of p elements. When a sentence contains a bulleted list, therefore, one might wonder how it should be marked up..." "... The solution is to realise that a paragraph, in HTML terms, is not a logical concept, but a structural one. In the fantastic example above, there are actually five paragraphs as defined by this speciication: o
  870. # [20:38] <David_Bradbury> ne before the list, one for each bullet, and one after the list."
  871. # [20:39] <David_Bradbury> The example is on the page :)
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  877. # [20:41] <saba> David_Bradbury: that's great examples. The p tag has always been a hassle for me, I've never really succeeded using it in a beautiful way
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  902. # [21:14] <tw2113> markdown is the new shit isn't it, at least for minimal typing and rich results
  903. # [21:15] <moo-_-> tw2113: it lacks table of contents
  904. # [21:15] <moo-_-> thus, restructured text is superior ^_^
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  906. # [21:15] <moo-_-> and image syntax is weird
  907. # [21:15] <moo-_-> and it is created by an apple fanboi
  908. # [21:16] <moo-_-> :)
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  917. # [21:20] <Voltaire> tw2113: I've been looking over the code but I still can't get my head around how it works
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  919. # [21:22] <tw2113> for markdown Voltaire ?
  920. # [21:22] <Voltaire> yourworldoftext.com
  921. # [21:22] <tw2113> ah
  922. # [21:22] <tw2113> i dunno either
  923. # [21:23] <tw2113> i was just able to find the github page for the source
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  952. # [21:54] <David_Bradbury> Sorry, was at lunch
  953. # [21:54] <David_Bradbury> Well, you didn't find the source :p
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  955. # [21:55] <David_Bradbury> All it is, is a large table acting as a grid
  956. # [21:55] <David_Bradbury> as your scroll around, it loads related information from the database
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