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  25. # [00:41] <HeartHacker> Hi
  26. # [00:41] <HeartHacker> :)
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  28. # [00:42] <HeartHacker> Hi :)
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  46. # [01:13] <rakm> is there a way to have a minimum number of rows in a table? or would I have to use javascript for that?
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  654. # [19:26] <David_Bradbury> Funny question - Not to be too blunt, but why does Firefox's (Gecko's) 3D-Transformations look like and act like crap compared to Webkit's?
  655. # [19:27] <Jayflux> does it? show us a jsfiddle David_Bradbury
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  657. # [19:30] <David_Bradbury> No need: http://thewebrocks.com/demos/postercircle/ - Look at it in Firefox, then Safari. Not only does Safari get much better frame-rates, but is aliased as well. Meanwhile Firefox has no aliasing and has rather jagged animations
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  672. # [19:40] <David_Bradbury> brb
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  683. # [19:53] <Jayflux> David_Bradbury mhmm yup, its not bad but not as good as webkit's rendering
  684. # [19:53] <David_Bradbury> Heck, even something as simple as christianheilmann.com
  685. # [19:53] <David_Bradbury> http://christianheilmann.com *
  686. # [19:54] <Jayflux> David_Bradbury they are different rendering engines, I suppose we have to expect one to be better than the other. They will never be exactly the same on quality.
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  690. # [19:56] <David_Bradbury> Indeed, it just makes it more difficult to want to use
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  813. # [22:46] <ca_bud> I have a checkbox within a unordered list. Is there a way to get the box to check if someone clicks on the <li> ? http://pastie.org/4003913 I tried for="sdfsdf", but it does not seem to work
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  815. # [22:48] <danielfilho> there are a few ways to do it.
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  817. # [22:49] <danielfilho> you can insert a <label> right after opening your <li>, set it as `display:block` and style it to match your needs.
  818. # [22:49] <danielfilho> and put all the content inside the <label>
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  820. # [22:49] <ca_bud> would JS be better?
  821. # [22:49] <danielfilho> will make a sample for you with your code
  822. # [22:50] <danielfilho> there's no need to use js on that IMO.
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  829. # [22:52] <Hornet> wot ho chaps
  830. # [22:52] <Hornet> http://help.videojs.com/discussions/problems/1650-video-seek-requiring-pre-buffering-to-that-point
  831. # [22:52] <manuchill> i would go for : <label for="e"><input id="e" type="checkbox"/> content</label>
  832. # [22:52] <danielfilho> http://jsfiddle.net/5Dyyq/
  833. # [22:52] <danielfilho> ops
  834. # [22:52] <danielfilho> ca_bud: http://jsfiddle.net/5Dyyq/
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  836. # [22:52] <Hornet> no point re-explaining the issue, that link summarises it... getting very frustrated
  837. # [22:52] <manuchill> ca_bud, see above
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  839. # [22:52] <Hornet> and any help would be much appreciated
  840. # [22:53] <danielfilho> manuchill: I think ca_bud whats the whole <li> to be clickable.
  841. # [22:53] <danielfilho> or, at least, some part of it.
  842. # [22:53] <ca_bud> danielfilho: yes whole LI
  843. # [22:53] <manuchill> indeed, wrap it up on the li
  844. # [22:53] <ca_bud> <li>
  845. # [22:53] <manuchill> just like in your fiddle danielfilho ;)
  846. # [22:53] <danielfilho> I think it's not semantic to wrap a <li> inside a <label>. not sure on that.
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  848. # [22:54] <Hornet> I'd use spans inside of labels, personally
  849. # [22:54] <manuchill> li > label > input... i meant it like your fiddle danielfilho
  850. # [22:54] <Hornet> most things will 'work' though, that's just personal preference
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  853. # [22:55] <danielfilho> ;)
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  855. # [22:56] <ca_bud> why does <li class="field" for="product_categories_1"> not work? if I can use a for attribute for a label, why not a <li>?
  856. # [22:57] <danielfilho> a label is meant to have a clickable behavior
  857. # [22:57] <danielfilho> you can do it through javascript, make the li clickable, or even add a onclick="{…}" on the li
  858. # [22:58] <danielfilho> but an <li> isn't meant to have a `for=` attribute
  859. # [22:58] <Jon47> yeah i think the only element that "for" has a default behavior for is the label tag, and only then if there's an input with that id..
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  861. # [22:58] <danielfilho> yup
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  863. # [23:00] <ca_bud> thanks
  864. # [23:00] <danielfilho> my pleasure :)
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  866. # [23:02] <manuchill> personally i wouldn't use js for this and stick with the label for structure... use danielfilho 's fiddle as an example and modify the styles to your needs
  867. # [23:02] <ca_bud> I think I'm going to us JS because I think wrapping the LI with a label is invalid html
  868. # [23:03] <ca_bud> from what I'm told, but thanks for the info. At least I know it can not be done with valid html
  869. # [23:04] <danielfilho> ca_bud: you're not wrapping a <li> with a <label>. the label is inside the li.
  870. # [23:04] <ca_bud> is that valid?
  871. # [23:04] <danielfilho> my sample, yes.
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  873. # [23:04] <ca_bud> but does that allow for the whole LI to be clickable?
  874. # [23:04] <danielfilho> yes.
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  877. # [23:05] <danielfilho> if you set the label's width for 100%, and the haight the same as the li, the whole li will be clickable.
  878. # [23:05] <Jon47> you can put anything you want inside a label, and avoid having to use the "for" attr, but yeah you can't have anything besides an <li> as the immediate children of an <ol/ul>
  879. # [23:05] <manuchill> it is valid indeed, use css to modify the size of the label
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  883. # [23:06] <danielfilho> check this now: http://jsfiddle.net/danielfilho/5Dyyq/17/
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  885. # [23:07] <danielfilho> the li's width is 250px, the label's width is 100%, so you just give the li's width and the label will fill it.
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  887. # [23:07] <danielfilho> gotta go now, dudes!
  888. # [23:07] <danielfilho> hope to have helped.
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  890. # [23:09] <manuchill> you can even add a cursor: pointer; on the label
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  924. # [23:50] <ca_bud> does for= work the same with radio buttons as checkboxes?
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  931. # [23:57] <tantek> ca_bud for labels in general with inputs in general, whether radio, checkbox, text, etc.
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  933. # [23:58] <ca_bud> why would a linked label work for a checkbox, but not a radio button, the only think I changed was checkbox to radio button and now the label does not change value
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  940. # [23:58] <tantek> ca_bud which browser? that sounds like a bug.
  941. # [23:59] <ca_bud> firebox
  942. # [23:59] <ca_bud> firefox
  943. # [23:59] <caniuse> ca_bud: http://wil.to/_/firefox.gif
  944. # [23:59] <tw2113> hola
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  946. # [23:59] <tantek> lol
  947. # [23:59] <ca_bud> shouldn't be a bug
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  949. # [23:59] <ca_bud> maybe my code
  950. # [23:59] <tantek> typically clicking on the label for an input activates that input
  951. # [23:59] <tantek> unless you have JS that does something different
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