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  196. # [04:40] <novochar> what are the differences between websocket, XHR, and XDM?
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  214. # [05:06] <m00bles> websockets are computer-to-computer socket connections over whatever port you want, communicating unspecified bytes. XHR is your browser communicating data, usually with the intention of getting a response, using the hypertext transfer protocol. this means that data conforms to standard header messages, etc. XDM is basically XHR but with cross-domain problems "resolved".
  215. # [05:07] <m00bles> basically XHR is like any other webpage or page resource request. Just script initiated. XDM is the same, but without some of the limitations of cross-domain requests lifted (well, ideally). websockets are raw computer-to-computer data connections and a fuckton of potential problems. But we're getting them anyway.
  216. # [05:09] <m00bles> (upside of websockets is that communication is now two way - a client doesn't have to do a pull request for data, data can be pushed to a client from a server with a websocket)
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  372. # [09:24] <Teonnyn> Primarily, clicking on on-screen objects that have been rendered and held in arrays
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  403. # [10:18] <Mikike> who can help me?
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  405. # [10:24] <tw2113> no one until you ask your question
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  410. # [10:32] <Teonnyn> Is there any recommended library, and/or game engine for Canvas that is designed to handle mouse events?
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  549. # [14:19] <Teonnyn> Is there any recommended library, and/or game engine for Canvas that is designed to handle mouse events?
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  551. # [14:24] <Teonnyn> Worse unofficial support channel ever. :)
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  608. # [16:02] <chee> Teonnyn
  609. # [16:02] <chee> oh you're gone
  610. # [16:05] <chee> i hear this is good for mice events and keeping track of object locations and things if that helps http://kineticjs.com/api-docs.php
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  612. # [16:10] <sunbeam> any recommendable lightbox or lightbox a like plugin? for a simple site containing x amount (10+) of thumbnails, when thumbnail is clicked show big image
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  632. # [17:28] <Zauberfisch> what tag is recomended for a subnavigation?
  633. # [17:28] <Zauberfisch> another nav tag? or aside? or anytag I have not heard of yet?
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  635. # [17:30] <Zauberfisch> or is it nav inside a other tag that gives it the meaning of a subnavigation?
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  656. # [18:10] <obert-> Zauberfisch: i assume that nav is like a container, i would to use normal nested lists in there
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  658. # [18:12] <sunbeam> Zauberfisch: use the structure ul li a ul li
  659. # [18:12] <obert-> http://html5doctor.com/nav-element/ The nav element represents a section of a page that links to other pages or to parts within the page: a section with navigation links. Not all groups of links on a page need to be in a nav element only sections that consist of major navigation blocks are appropriate for the nav element.
  660. # [18:13] <obert-> that would be interesting
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  665. # [18:24] <Zauberfisch> sunbeam it is not nested within the main navigation
  666. # [18:26] <obert-> Zauberfisch: did you read the specs?;)
  667. # [18:26] <Zauberfisch> so what I want to do is: http://jsfiddle.net/jFsuw/
  668. # [18:26] <Zauberfisch> obert- nope :/ I plan to do it
  669. # [18:26] <Zauberfisch> but haven't got around it yet
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  671. # [18:30] <obert-> Zauberfisch: just read mine above paste then. i think it is clear
  672. # [18:30] <obert-> Not all groups of links on a page need to be in a nav element only sections that consist of major navigation blocks are appropriate for the nav element.
  673. # [18:30] <Zauberfisch> yeah, I did read that part
  674. # [18:31] <Zauberfisch> that you posted
  675. # [18:31] <Zauberfisch> but
  676. # [18:31] <obert-> imho nav is for the main navigation and/or for a second major menu
  677. # [18:31] <Zauberfisch> yeah, I could place make it div>ul>li>a rather than nav>ul>li>a
  678. # [18:31] <obert-> like sidebar
  679. # [18:31] <Zauberfisch> yeah, its a sidebar navigation
  680. # [18:32] <Zauberfisch> its not as important as the main, but important
  681. # [18:32] <Zauberfisch> so would aside>nav>ul>li>a be the right way?
  682. # [18:32] <obert-> perhaps
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  684. # [18:32] <obert-> but there is no need to have a sub <nav>
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  688. # [18:33] <obert-> nav is just to declare that the links inside it is the main navi
  689. # [18:33] <obert-> if i didnt misunderstood
  690. # [18:33] <obert-> like the old <div id="menu">
  691. # [18:33] <obert-> or whatever
  692. # [18:33] <obert-> like the old <div id="menus"> :P
  693. # [18:34] <obert-> but structured
  694. # [18:35] <obert-> a <nav> in the header and a <nav> in <aside>, i would tell this
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  696. # [18:36] <obert-> perhaps html5doctors is more clear on explain, though
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  705. # [19:00] <Zauberfisch> well, I'll think about it, thanks so far obert-
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  737. # [19:59] <Nasrudin> Any easeljs users here?
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  752. # [20:27] <EmmaJ> hi
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  785. # [21:21] <eonl> Just checking I have this right - html5 has capacity to provide SQL type storage on the client machine, without using an SQL server?
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  789. # [21:28] <imsky> nnnnno
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  792. # [21:34] <eonl> well - webSQL?
  793. # [21:35] <eonl> http://www.tutorialspoint.com/html5/html5_web_sql.htm
  794. # [21:35] <eonl> client doesn't have an sql server installed but you can use sql syntax to store things?
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  839. # [22:44] <grantg> /msg nickserv hunter2
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  842. # [22:50] <paul_irish> grantg: whoops
  843. # [22:50] <grantg> It was a joke
  844. # [22:50] <grantg> Look up the hunter2 irc joke. :P
  845. # [22:50] <paul_irish> orly
  846. # [22:51] <caniuse> paul_irish: http://i.imgur.com/K1D2C.jpg
  847. # [22:51] <paul_irish> yarly
  848. # [22:51] <caniuse> paul_irish: http://i.imgur.com/2qmXW.jpg
  849. # [22:51] <grantg> ಠ_
  850. # [22:51] <grantg> ಠ_ಠ
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  852. # [22:55] <grantg> Is google chrome coming to iOS?
  853. # [22:56] <grantg> I hope they get to keep V8
  854. # [22:56] <grantg> Like as if Apple makes an exception for the V8 engine
  855. # [22:57] <grantg> mobile safari is still slower than firefox 3.6
  856. # [22:57] <grantg> :/
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  861. # [23:03] <grantg> anything new?
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