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  53. # [01:29] <cgcardona> i'm at google io. anyone else here?
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  67. # [01:48] <tw2113> nope
  68. # [01:48] <tw2113> cgcardona
  69. # [01:48] <tw2113> :P
  70. # [01:48] <cgcardona> :-p
  71. # [01:51] <tw2113> what's google? </sarcasm>
  72. # [01:51] <cgcardona> whats html5?
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  77. # [01:59] <cgcardona> ff to a happy hour. ttyl tw2113
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  79. # [02:02] <tw2113> cya
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  116. # [03:00] <faryshta> How can I create secure streaming with html5? That means that the user can't download the files.
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  119. # [03:08] <kurrent> yeoman looks great so far
  120. # [03:08] <beneggett> faryshta: you can't
  121. # [03:08] <niftylettuce> that would be rad.
  122. # [03:08] <niftylettuce> SIR
  123. # [03:08] <beneggett> faryshta: its not flash
  124. # [03:08] <niftylettuce> :P
  125. # [03:09] <beneggett> faryshta: but this may help you: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9756837/prevent-html5-video-from-being-downloaded-right-click-saved
  126. # [03:09] <niftylettuce> anyone at the event right now?
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  130. # [03:12] <faryshta> beneggett, ok thanks.
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  215. # [04:35] <SrPx> Hey guys, how do you develop your site? Are you hand coding your stuff on HTML5? Are there tools I should be aware of? (I'm very familiar w/ html5 and javascript, just a little out of the design world)
  216. # [04:35] <SrPx> sites*
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  235. # [04:55] <ryanseddon> SrPx: depends how complex your site is and what you're doing. You've got simple starter stuff like html5 boilerplate or more complex scaffolding tools like http://brunch.io/ or backbone boiler plate and google just announced, like 2 hours ago, a tool called http://yeoman.io/
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  237. # [05:00] <SrPx> ryanseddon: nice, thank you!
  238. # [05:00] <SrPx> also, more?
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  337. # [07:37] <niftylettuce> ryanseddon: u get mentioned in dev talk, i want to see u talk :)
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  362. # [08:21] <ryanseddon> niftylettuce: tell conference organisers that i've been trying for internationl places!
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  364. # [08:22] <niftylettuce> ryanseddon: just plant a script on paul's computer to `rm -rf /` and then u can steal his spots :P
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  366. # [08:25] <ryanseddon> done
  367. # [08:25] <niftylettuce> hahaha
  368. # [08:25] <ryanseddon> i even recorded myself hacking his computer http://topiat.com/system/images/3733/originals/012020120259/VhlQK.gif
  369. # [08:26] <tw2113> look at you go ryanseddon
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  371. # [08:28] <tw2113> ryanseddon i have an idea for you to get on stage
  372. # [08:29] <ryanseddon> this a re-anactment of my hacking attempts http://nedroid.com/2012/05/honk-the-databus/
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  375. # [08:30] <tw2113> ryanseddon you need to go all jeff dunham with paul_irish. have one of you act like the puppet and present something together
  376. # [08:30] <ryanseddon> i can be a puppet
  377. # [08:31] <tw2113> you two could do witty repartee back and forth and both present info
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  380. # [08:33] <ryanseddon> now all i need is to learn how to be witty
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  385. # [08:36] <niftylettuce> haha
  386. # [08:36] <niftylettuce> just say
  387. # [08:36] <niftylettuce> RAD a whole lot
  388. # [08:36] <niftylettuce> TERRIFIC
  389. # [08:36] <niftylettuce> UNICORNS
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  392. # [08:42] <niftylettuce> ryanseddon: your talk has to be as cool as http://niftylettuce.com tho
  393. # [08:42] <niftylettuce> ryanseddon: err http://www.niftylettuce.com ** gross www
  394. # [08:43] <niftylettuce> woah weird, my link moved itself, http://nickbaugh.com <----- there u go, that's my presentation of goodness
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  396. # [08:44] <niftylettuce> it sux i kno
  397. # [08:44] <niftylettuce> cool part is iPhone demo
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  595. # [14:32] <terryleigh> hi guys, is there a way with canvas make my line / strokes clear? they always come out blurry
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  603. # [14:44] <_shorinji_> terryleigh: http://gp2.fronter.com/~fredrikf/clock.html
  604. # [14:44] <_shorinji_> didn't use any special tricks, and the shapes look normal and jagged
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  606. # [14:48] <terryleigh> _shorinji_: hmm that website doesn't seem to be working.
  607. # [14:49] <_shorinji_> maybe it's just slow
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  609. # [14:49] <_shorinji_> or oh my mistake
  610. # [14:49] <_shorinji_> our admin put it behind the firewall lately
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  612. # [14:51] <_shorinji_> terryleigh: http://pastie.org/4165475
  613. # [14:51] <_shorinji_> that's the basic contents of the page
  614. # [14:51] <_shorinji_> pasting it into the <body> of a html file should make it runnable
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  616. # [14:52] <_shorinji_> maybe it's an awful example since it does alot of other stuff
  617. # [14:53] <_shorinji_> in short: I set lineWidth and strokeStyle
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  619. # [14:54] <terryleigh> cool.. but how do you make the lines not blur?
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  621. # [14:55] <_shorinji_> I don't :)
  622. # [14:56] <_shorinji_> also set context.lineCap = "round"; but that shouldn't really affect blur/antialiasing
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  625. # [15:04] <terryleigh> ok.. so I can't really make it look sharper?
  626. # [15:04] <_shorinji_> can you post a screenshot of what you get?
  627. # [15:04] <_shorinji_> dont really understand
  628. # [15:06] <xec> anyone have experience with animation in opera and the "infinite" keyword? most browsers seem fine with this but opera stops after a while http://jsfiddle.net/9yrW9/
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  630. # [15:07] <terryleigh> http://tinypic.com/r/30uxr44/6
  631. # [15:07] <terryleigh> _shorinji_: ^^
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  633. # [15:08] <_shorinji_> hmm
  634. # [15:08] <_shorinji_> sure looks a bit blurry
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  637. # [15:09] <niloy> xec, after how much time does it stop?
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  639. # [15:09] <M1k1> hi
  640. # [15:09] <M1k1> who help me?
  641. # [15:09] <_shorinji_> lines that are not 90' vertical or horisontal, do they look even more blurry?
  642. # [15:09] <M1k1> with win and chrome?
  643. # [15:10] <niloy> xec, its working properly for me on opera
  644. # [15:10] <terryleigh> _shorinji_: I'm only drawing rectangles.
  645. # [15:10] <_shorinji_> ok, maybe there are other properties to set for rectangle
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  647. # [15:14] <xec> niloy: good question, i tried timing it now, and it appears Opera12/mac is fine, but on Opera12/win it stops after about 5-10 repetitions, but *sometimes* doesn't stop =/
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  650. # [15:15] <niloy> xec, Opera12/Ubuntu is fine too
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  674. # [15:58] <terryleigh> in my recursive function, how do I return nothing... as the result gets concatenated.
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  676. # [15:58] <terryleigh> nothing, not '', null... true..
  677. # [15:59] <terryleigh> wrong room sorry
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  825. # [18:29] <gabejacobs> Is there anyway to avoid this problem: http://i.imgur.com/pIbI3.png
  826. # [18:29] <gabejacobs> basically my video has a super small width, so the controls overlay on top of it
  827. # [18:29] <gabejacobs> but there needs to be a way to play it...
  828. # [18:30] <gabejacobs> anyway to move the controls down or something, without editing the video?
  829. # [18:31] <gpantazis> Disable the controls and play it using JS instead.
  830. # [18:31] <gabejacobs> Like create my own play buttons?
  831. # [18:32] <gabejacobs> That would be super tedious. Would involve giving all the videos ids and such right?
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  834. # [18:35] <gpantazis> gabejacobs: Not if your markup is predictable. You could put an anchor as a sibling element to every <video>
  835. # [18:36] <gpantazis> And set up the behaviors based on that. $('video + a')... etc.
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  840. # [18:36] <gabejacobs> hmm, yeah, I may try that
  841. # [18:36] <cgcardona> mornin y'all
  842. # [18:36] <gabejacobs> but there is no way to just move those controls down right?
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  844. # [18:37] <gpantazis> Not natively. You could also look into something like http://videojs.com/
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  923. # [20:05] <Skolem> Why do these two outer divs have different heights? I would expect them to be the same, but they differ by about 5px. They both contain a single child having height: 50px, but in the first case the child is an svg and in the second case it is another div. http://pastebin.com/M9MMkZDf
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  937. # [20:24] <ruxpin> Skolem: try line-height: 0; in your svg wrapper
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  949. # [20:32] <ffwacom> consider this: non standards complient browsers
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  952. # [20:33] <spobat> compliant.
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  954. # [20:34] <ffwacom> spobat: knows the score
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  958. # [20:36] <spobat> :>
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  963. # [20:44] <Skolem> Ruxpin, thanks for the suggestion, but I see the same thing even when I added that. You can view it here: http://pastehtml.com/view/c3148dpdu.html
  964. # [20:44] <Skolem> ffwacom: Same thing in both Firefox and Chrome, though I suppose they could both be broken in the same way.
  965. # [20:45] <ffwacom> Skolem: yes
  966. # [20:45] <Skolem> ffwacom: Any suggestions on how to work around it?
  967. # [20:45] <Skolem> I don't want those extra pixels under my svgs, damn it!
  968. # [20:45] <Skolem> keep your govt hands off my medicare!
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  980. # [20:59] <jdo_dk1> Hello, i try to make some html5 drag and drop, and it works just "fine" But not in firefox MAC, the DROP event i not fired. My drop event code can be find here: http://dpaste.org/aMnqM/ The drop event is "never" fired, when working on dynamic loaded elements
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  1016. # [21:42] <moo-_-> jdo_dk1: are other handlers called?
  1017. # [21:42] <moo-_-> sounds like a platform specific behavior or something :<
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  1020. # [21:44] <jdo_dk1> moo-_-: Problem was: evt.dataTransfer.effectAllowed='copy'; changed to: evt.dataTransfer.effectAllowed='move'; (moved the element with: dragstart()...evt.dataTransfer.setData('Text',evt.target.getAttribute('id')); and drop()...var eleid = evt.dataTransfer.getData("Text"); evt.target.appendChild(document.getElementById(eleid));
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  1065. # [22:29] <CrusaderAD> Does anyone know if deploying a mobile version of your site will harm your desktop version? Cause something like duplicate content?
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  1067. # [22:30] <David_Bradbury> 'harm'?
  1068. # [22:30] <CrusaderAD> right, as in harm your google rankings / seo rankings because they think you have duplicate content
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  1070. # [22:32] <Armen> wouldn't you usually serve the same content with different style sheets?
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  1072. # [22:33] <CrusaderAD> yep, basically... on a sub domain
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  1084. # [22:47] <moo-_-> ah
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  1086. # [22:47] <moo-_-> I had the answer
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  1133. # [23:11] <evasivx> Hello everyone!
  1134. # [23:12] <evasivx> I have a <video> question. I'm currently using video.js and i've got things to work fine. But, when i pagespeed my site afterwards i noticed that the poster="" image associated with the video turns into an <img> tag, but, without any width or height assigned to it, is there a way i can do this?
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  1140. # [23:17] <David_Bradbury> Is there a way you can turn your video into the poster image?
  1141. # [23:18] <David_Bradbury> Is that what you're asking?
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  1185. # Session Close: Fri Jun 29 00:00:01 2012

The end :)