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  4. # [00:00] <jaybuffet> is there anyway to get the actual file path on the users computer for a file stored in the html5 persistent storage in javascript
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  15. # [00:14] <sunbeam> tomlane: thanks, i think i get it
  16. # [00:14] <sunbeam> at least, will start looking for more material regarding RWD/Media Queries
  17. # [00:15] <tomlane> sunbeam, thats the stuff to look at :)
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  154. # [03:52] <grantg> paul_irish: I love the webgl error reporting chrome has. :3
  155. # [03:52] <grantg> I've been working on some webgl abstraction on my own to build up for a webgl game
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  157. # [03:53] <grantg> trying to make it easier with object based mgmt
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  164. # [04:06] <llrcombs_> so, I wrote a fake type of OCR that reads segmented displays from scoreboards: https://github.com/11rcombs/LiveText-Control/tree/master/scripts
  165. # [04:06] <MitchC21> Hey
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  173. # [04:18] <llrcombs_> it uses <canvas>, matrix transforms, and the webcam API [I haven't actually written the webcam bit, but it's like 12 lines of code, so it's as good as done]
  174. # [04:18] <llrcombs_> I'm just using a prerecorded MP4 until I have access to a real scoreboard to test with
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  520. # [14:09] <jeffsmykil> anyone have any fabric experience
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  542. # [14:32] <jarek> Hi
  543. # [14:32] <jarek> is there way to determine which segment in SVG path was clicked?
  544. # [14:32] <jarek> s/way/a way
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  587. # [15:22] <Progster> is there any reason you can't close a <script> tag with a slash at the end, like so: <script src="foo" />
  588. # [15:22] <Progster> instead you have to do <script></script>
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  591. # [15:22] <mike5w3c> Progster: you can do that if you serve it with the application/xml MIME type
  592. # [15:22] <mike5w3c> but you can't do it in HTML
  593. # [15:22] <mike5w3c> text/html
  594. # [15:23] <mike5w3c> the reason is, that self-closing start tag stuff is an XML-ism
  595. # [15:23] <mike5w3c> it was invented long after HTML began
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  597. # [15:23] <mike5w3c> in text/html that slash means nothing
  598. # [15:23] <mike5w3c> it is ignored by HTML parsers
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  600. # [15:24] <mike5w3c> which means if you don't put the script end tag, the parser thinks your script element is still open
  601. # [15:24] <moo-_-> Progster: self-closing tags work only for certain tags only
  602. # [15:24] <Progster> just wasted 45 mins learning that moo-_-
  603. # [15:24] <mike5w3c> they work only for elements that are defined as empty elements
  604. # [15:24] <Progster> mike5w3c: can you elaborate on what that means?
  605. # [15:25] <mike5w3c> HTML parsers are hard-coded to recognize certain elements as empty
  606. # [15:25] <mike5w3c> they have a hard-coded list of those elements
  607. # [15:25] <Progster> for example like br or p?
  608. # [15:25] <moo-_-> Progster: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3558119/are-self-closing-tags-valid-in-html5?rq=1
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  611. # [15:25] <mike5w3c> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/syntax.html#elements-0
  612. # [15:26] <mike5w3c> area, base, br, col, command, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr
  613. # [15:26] <moo-_-> hmm sorry Progster
  614. # [15:26] <moo-_-> wrong like
  615. # [15:26] <moo-_-> I had better answer somewhere
  616. # [15:26] <jeffsmykil> is there anything worse than bad documentation?
  617. # [15:26] <moo-_-> mike5w3c was faster
  618. # [15:26] <Progster> I see
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  620. # [15:26] <moo-_-> jeffsmykil: PHP
  621. # [15:26] <Progster> I'd say for safety purposes just don't use the slash at the end
  622. # [15:26] <Progster> not worth the trouble
  623. # [15:26] <mike5w3c> Progster: some other elements like p are defined as having optional end tags
  624. # [15:27] <mike5w3c> but script is not one of those
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  741. # [17:52] <thefirstdude> how to fix this
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