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  71. # [01:49] <Emmaj__> Hi
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  75. # [01:59] <benv> heyyyy
  76. # [01:59] <benv> quick question
  77. # [01:59] <benv> why is this a bad idea
  78. # [01:59] <benv> document.getElementById('foo').bar = 'baz';
  79. # [01:59] <benv> storing js values on dom elements
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  81. # [02:00] <gnarf> its not too terrible nowadays, in oldIE it has some garbage collection issues
  82. # [02:02] <gnarf> partucularly storing objects on dom nodes
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  87. # [02:15] <benv> cool
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  275. # [07:25] <Kunnis> I'm trying to figure out what the best way to send some images to a client. The images are dynamically generated, some images are animated, some are fixed. I was thinking of passing a large gif to the browser, but how do I send the size/location data back to the client? Also have the browser pull dowm some json that describes it all?
  276. # [07:26] <Kunnis> And when I modify the dom, what's the best way to to tag an element to get the graphic?
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  278. # [07:28] <Kunnis> I was thinking of having a canvas that I'd do the animation on... But I don't have my whole idea together.
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  282. # [07:35] <Kunnis> I just need to talk it over with someone, and maybe I'll get an idea.
  283. # [07:35] <moo-_-> Kunnis: you just want client-side templating populating some <img> tags?
  284. # [07:35] <moo-_-> probably something like this https://github.com/leonidas/transparency/
  285. # [07:35] <Kunnis> I'd have a lot of moving img tags, and I thought that was bad for perf.
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  287. # [07:37] <moo-_-> Kunnis: maybe it would help to explain what kindof use case you have
  288. # [07:37] <moo-_-> and what kind of application you are building
  289. # [07:38] <Kunnis> I'm basically building a game (as an excuse to practice my js)
  290. # [07:39] <Kunnis> First phase is to get the chat system working "right" (compatable with the thick-client version). The game embeds images into the chat, but the images might be animated.
  291. # [07:40] <Kunnis> So I haven't gotten a full plan on how to send the images to the client. I'm using signalr for sending messages to the client with the images that need to be sent.
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  293. # [07:41] <moo-_-> Kunnis: if you build a game
  294. # [07:41] <moo-_-> use a decend 2d gaming library
  295. # [07:41] <moo-_-> and don't solve these problems yourself
  296. # [07:41] <moo-_-> https://github.com/collective/collective.contentleadimage/blob/master/src/collective/contentleadimage/configure.zcml#L32
  297. # [07:41] <moo-_-> ops
  298. # [07:41] <moo-_-> https://github.com/bebraw/jswiki/wiki/Game-Engines this
  299. # [07:42] <moo-_-> Kunnis: but if it's more chat like
  300. # [07:42] <Kunnis> I'll look into it. I'd like to use the normal html text flowing for the text processing. It's got a large chat portion to it
  301. # [07:42] <moo-_-> Kunnis: just send URLs to images over WebSockets
  302. # [07:42] <moo-_-> with JSON metadata about them
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  307. # [07:46] <circlicious> ah, i guess i cant use file system api inside web workers :P
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  309. # [07:48] <moo-_-> circlicious: as discussed before, webworkers have limited IO opportunities
  310. # [07:48] <moo-_-> circlicious: all communications must go through main thread and webworkers only communicate via postMessage()
  311. # [07:49] <circlicious> right ok :)
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  313. # [07:51] <circlicious> moo-_-: i have a question, can i call a function in the web worker directly from the main thread?
  314. # [07:52] <circlicious> or is it just always postMessage from the main thread that calles the message event handler on worker
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  316. # [07:54] <moo-_-> circlicious: I am not sure what good calling a function would do, because the internal state of the web worker is isolated from main thread and vice versa
  317. # [07:55] <circlicious> even that is true, heh
  318. # [07:55] <circlicious> actually i wanted to have a workler, that gets lots of data from ajax, does some processing and stores into files
  319. # [07:56] <circlicious> i guess now i need ot break it into 2 workers, 1 to store in files and other to fetch via ajax and process data
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  329. # [08:11] <circlicious> i think i said something stupid, sorry :D
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  450. # [10:29] <circlicious> after creating a Blob object by passing some data in its first array argument, if i wanted to pass in more data, how would i do so ?
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  457. # [10:43] <moo-_-> circlicious: please use jsfiddle.net or similar pasteboard - you know it's kind difficult to know what you are trying to do without seeing your code first
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  463. # [10:50] <circlicious> is there a way to check my filesystem from chrom dev tools ?
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  484. # [11:34] <niftylettuce> Express CDN - deliver your JS/CSS/IMG assets optimized/minified/mangled through Amazon S3 and CloudFront CDN http://niftylettuce.github.com/express-cdn/
  485. # [11:34] <niftylettuce> for node.js folks in here that want perff!
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  497. # [12:03] <circlicious> i am having this same problem - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6792607/using-the-html5-filewriter-truncate-method - anyone knows a proper fix ?
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  584. # [15:26] <Aaronds> Hi, I'm having some trouble getting HTML5 video working. I'm using videojs HTML5 video player, and an .mp4 video file. However, for some reason my video works in Chrome & Firefox, but not Safari and IE9. The video was converted from wmv to mp4 using HandBrake, and this is running locally on an apache server on windows 7. Does anyone know what the problem could be?
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  597. # [16:01] <localidiot> Could Safari and IE require additional plugins?
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  699. # [18:31] <ronny> hi
  700. # [18:31] <ronny> how would one define a pagebreak for print media?
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  703. # [18:35] <DannysDad> Hi. I'm adding some SVG elements to an HTML5-only site I'm learning on. Doing individual elements, like a circle, is easy enough following e.g. http://www.tutorialspoint.com/html5/html5_svg.htm.
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  705. # [18:35] <DannysDad> How do you stack stuff? E.g., If I have a SVG circle, how do I put centered-text in the middle of it? I think I'm missing something obvious :-(
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  728. # [19:08] <dahlfors> hmmm
  729. # [19:09] <dahlfors> I remember I've read some article about writing good css for larger websites where there are teams codeveloping
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  732. # [19:09] <dahlfors> any of you have a url to such an article?
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  734. # [19:09] <dahlfors> could it have been paul_irish that had an article about that?
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  740. # [19:21] <tw2113> Nicole Sullivan has done a lot in that area if I recall
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  855. # [21:48] <luzon19> Hey all, I just posted a series of tutorials on replicating ICS Phase Beam live wallpaper using Canvas. http://cssdeck.com/post/48/series-replicating-ics-phase-beam-lwp-using-canvas
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  891. # [22:45] <sunbeam> zooming in, on a page with small font content (a lot paragraph content), is this possible some way with jquery or HTML5? I mean zooming in as getting a zoom icon that you can click on the text.
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  905. # [23:26] <daleharvey> paul_irish: around?
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  923. # [23:47] <Jayflux> remysharp you about?
  924. # [23:47] <remysharp> sure
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  926. # [23:47] <Jayflux> can I pm you?
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  929. # [23:49] <remysharp> em, sure.
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