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  22. # [00:41] <haizum> whats the advantage of using a plugin over the built in html5 <video> player?
  23. # [00:41] <haizum> just looks/extra controls?
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  368. # [10:35] <Christe__> Hi all, does anyone know how to scale the webpage on orientation change? - I have allready implemented it with responsive webdesign, and it works great on ipad and iphone. But on the android tablet its not resizing!
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  377. # [10:49] <moo-_-> Christe__: most likely the answer is
  378. # [10:49] <moo-_-> "you don't"
  379. # [10:49] <moo-_-> http://stackoverflow.com/a/4686785/315168
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  383. # [10:49] <moo-_-> android browser is steaming pile of itself
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  398. # [11:16] <Christe__> moo-_-: Thanks, damn! I really dislike android - and going into this problem just says to me that android is just crap !
  399. # [11:16] <moo-_-> Christe__: it is probably fixed in android 4.x
  400. # [11:16] <moo-_-> which we will get
  401. # [11:16] <moo-_-> in five years!
  402. # [11:16] <moo-_-> android browser is the new IE6
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  405. # [11:17] <Christe__> Yeah i bet!
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  634. # [16:27] <StoneCyph> do svg questions about browsers fly in here?
  635. # [16:27] <StoneCyph> i just want to know whether i'm looking at a browser bug, or whether i'm derping at how i'm supposed to do this
  636. # [16:28] <StoneCyph> will rtfm if i'm told "it's not ie being wrong"
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  638. # [16:28] <asher^> have you tried it in multiple browsers?
  639. # [16:28] <StoneCyph> (blinks)
  640. # [16:29] <StoneCyph> it's way too early in the morning
  641. # [16:29] <StoneCyph> sorry.
  642. # [16:29] <StoneCyph> metro dev corrupts the brain
  643. # [16:29] <asher^> heh
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  645. # [16:29] <StoneCyph> this is the first svg i've ever done, and other lame excuses that make no sense
  646. # [16:30] <asher^> svg isnt very friendly ive found
  647. # [16:30] <asher^> at least it isnt to me :p
  648. # [16:30] <StoneCyph> i honestly believe the problem is just a lack of peter paul koch
  649. # [16:30] <StoneCyph> tool-aware documentation -> friendly
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  652. # [16:33] <StoneCyph> oh, what the fuck. ie10 gets this wrong, but ie9 gets it right >:(
  653. # [16:33] <StoneCyph> okay nevermind.
  654. # [16:33] <StoneCyph> uh.
  655. # [16:34] <StoneCyph> how does one make a rounded, bordered rectangle filled with a gradient, other than rect rx rx grad=url(#someLinearGradient) ?
  656. # [16:34] <StoneCyph> has to be in svg
  657. # [16:35] <StoneCyph> because it's meant to interact with an svg based graphing library called d3
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  773. # [18:24] <hijimayor> Hi ! Anyone developing win8 apps with html5? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4229702
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  778. # [18:30] <emmaj> nah hijimayor, just ios apps atm
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  780. # [18:30] <hijimayor> @emmaj, what are you working on?
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  782. # [18:30] <emmaj> a few cookbooks and other things
  783. # [18:31] <hijimayor> why html5?
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  786. # [18:31] <emmaj> its a lot easier than using the native code
  787. # [18:31] <hijimayor> but its also harder getting the interface to look native, no?
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  790. # [18:32] <emmaj> nah not really, you can do a lot of customization with html that i like
  791. # [18:32] <hijimayor> what exactly in HTML5 do you use? Canvas? WS?
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  794. # [18:34] <emmaj> just some tags like <video> and shit like that, still new to it all :)
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  796. # [18:34] <emmaj> http://itunes.apple.com/es/app/cookbook/id533044197
  797. # [18:34] <emmaj> thats my first one using html
  798. # [18:35] <emmaj> oops thats in spanish
  799. # [18:35] <emmaj> http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/cookbook/id533044197?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D2
  800. # [18:35] <hijimayor> No problem
  801. # [18:35] <hijimayor> Looks nice :)
  802. # [18:35] <emmaj> thank you
  803. # [18:36] <hijimayor> One small suggestion though. You might want to use a list to show the direcctions
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  805. # [18:36] <emmaj> yeh?
  806. # [18:36] <hijimayor> having it in a snigle paragraph makes it hard to follow when cooking
  807. # [18:36] <emmaj> yeh thats very true
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  809. # [18:37] <uf0word> guys, if I have an old version of compass installed
  810. # [18:37] <hijimayor> learnt that from personal experience ..
  811. # [18:37] <uf0word> how do I update via a command
  812. # [18:37] <uf0word> ?
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  855. # [19:13] <barrybrass> Does anyone have a suggestion regarding how I should pass a graph data structure to a web worker?
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  857. # [19:14] <barrybrass> is it more efficient to encode as JSON or simply do structured cloning?
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  865. # [19:18] <Pomax> you can only pass serialised data to a web worker.
  866. # [19:19] <Pomax> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_web_workers
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  913. # [20:16] <moo-_-> http://ogvidius.com/967/
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  917. # [20:17] <moo-_-> barrybrass: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720949
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  924. # [20:22] <moo-_-> barrybrass: I think efficient data transfers are not yet possible
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  1002. # [21:00] <sjefen6> I am trying to make an embeddable widget with js and html5. Is there no other ways to make widgets with 2 way communication (excluding flash and other plugins) than iframes?
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  1005. # [21:01] <moo-_-> sjefen6: what do you mean by "2 way communication"
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  1010. # [21:02] <sjefen6> requesting new information from my website
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  1012. # [21:02] <moo-_-> sjefen6: http://socket.io/
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  1017. # [21:04] <MichMich> socket.io ftw!
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  1123. # [22:16] <emmaj> hijimayor:
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  1146. # [22:37] <ordinaryman09_> hello guys..I'm trying to add a messaging between users feature for my apps
  1147. # [22:37] <ordinaryman09_> any1 know any API I can probably use?
  1148. # [22:37] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: chat?
  1149. # [22:37] <rking> ordinaryman09_: You'll need some server-side stuff. Then it'll probably be Ajax-based.
  1150. # [22:38] <moo-_-> rking: AJAX is so 00s. It's websockets all the way down :)
  1151. # [22:38] <rking> moo-_-: My bad. =)
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  1153. # [22:38] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6523024/how-do-i-setup-a-pubsub-chat-system-using-eventmachine
  1154. # [22:38] <ordinaryman09_> oh, is there any api that I can just use?
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  1156. # [22:38] <ordinaryman09_> haven't look into web sockets yet
  1157. # [22:39] <ordinaryman09_> mind giving me brief explanation why it's all the way down compared to ajax?
  1158. # [22:39] <ordinaryman09_> lol
  1159. # [22:39] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: it's not polling. it's full duplex. the server can initiate the sending of the message.
  1160. # [22:40] <moo-_-> another http://socket.io/#how-to-use
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  1163. # [22:41] <ordinaryman09_> this seems more fit for chatting
  1164. # [22:42] <ordinaryman09_> i need a msging between users;
  1165. # [22:42] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: with phonegap you might need to resort to some native wrapped socket module - I don't know if websocket works there very well
  1166. # [22:42] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: you still need centralized server which acts as a middle man routing the messages
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  1168. # [22:43] <ordinaryman09_> yah
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  1170. # [22:44] <ordinaryman09_> i was thinking just use ajax and php and sql to store the msg.
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  1173. # [22:45] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: then you should not be on #html5 channel :)
  1174. # [22:45] <moo-_-> this is all about new, better, technologies :)
  1175. # [22:45] <ordinaryman09_> i
  1176. # [22:46] <ordinaryman09_> ic
  1177. # [22:46] <ordinaryman09_> gotta start learn the new, better, technologies
  1178. # [22:46] <ordinaryman09_> haha
  1179. # [22:46] <moo-_-> however my suggestion is that
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  1181. # [22:46] <moo-_-> if the application is not important
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  1183. # [22:46] <moo-_-> use tools what you can
  1184. # [22:46] <moo-_-> and upgrade later
  1185. # [22:50] <ordinaryman09_> yeah
  1186. # [22:50] <ordinaryman09_> this looks interesting
  1187. # [22:51] <ordinaryman09_> do u know any good intro tutorial for n00b ?
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  1191. # [22:54] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: for websockets?
  1192. # [22:54] <ordinaryman09_> yeah
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  1194. # [22:55] <ordinaryman09_> I'm looking at some right now, but if u have any recommendation that'd be good
  1195. # [22:55] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: not as far as I know
  1196. # [22:55] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09_: I'd suggest you look ready Javascript chat component
  1197. # [22:55] <moo-_-> and integrate it with your app
  1198. # [22:55] <ordinaryman09_> ok
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