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  26. # [00:36] <gavacho> if you needed to draw graphs in js, which library would you use?
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  31. # [00:44] <imsky> gavacho, graphs as in graph theory graphs, or some sort of chart?
  32. # [00:44] <austincheney> gavacho: i would use svg
  33. # [00:45] <imsky> lol ^
  34. # [00:45] <austincheney> unless the graphs need a crap load of animation or compatibility back to ie7
  35. # [00:45] <imsky> i'd use javascript gavacho
  36. # [00:45] <imsky> on top of html
  37. # [00:45] <austincheney> google analytics uses svg and their graphs kick ass
  38. # [00:46] <austincheney> the cool thing about svg graphs is that everything under the hood is nodes in xml using CSS, which means you can access the graph using vanilla javascript and perform dynamic alterations
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  60. # [01:30] <chee> gavacho: what about this shit http://g.raphaeljs.com/
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  422. # [13:26] <midori-rus> This channel supports? I have a small problem in the code. Can I ask a question here?
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  428. # [13:38] <tantek> Indeed you may but you've used up your one question asking that ;)
  429. # [13:38] <tantek> (but seriously, if you have a question about HTML5, please feel free to ask)
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  438. # [13:49] <midori-rus> http://cservice.rootnix.net/sfera/index.html code
  439. # [13:50] <midori-rus> http://gyazo.com/756ff5277d57b177ff5f4f7cc535d01f problem
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  441. # [13:50] <midori-rus> i want assign #wrapper full height
  442. # [13:50] <midori-rus> why not work? T_T
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  452. # [14:13] <radio23> midori-rus: That is a CSS question.
  453. # [14:13] <radio23> Styling, y'know.
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  557. # [17:28] <hroi> hello
  558. # [17:28] <hroi> was just looking into the "header" tag
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  560. # [17:28] <radio23> hroi: Don't fear the reaper.
  561. # [17:28] <hroi> Im not clear why I should use it, ...
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  563. # [17:28] <hroi> does it simply give me an extra thing to select in styling?
  564. # [17:28] <radio23> hroi: http://html5doctor.com/
  565. # [17:29] <radio23> hroi: Don't forget to also check the specs link they also provide with their interpretation.
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  568. # [17:30] <hroi> radio23: thanks, suppose it does give some flexiblity and readability
  569. # [17:30] <hroi> organisationability :)
  570. # [17:31] <radio23> hroi: It's semantically somethign that allows a better understanding of the document.
  571. # [17:31] <radio23> Semantic HTML is super important.
  572. # [17:31] <tantek> here here
  573. # [17:31] <hroi> yeah, hard enough to read simply div here and there
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  575. # [17:35] <radio23> hroi: If there is a <div> everywhere then that person probably didn't know what they were doing. :)
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  578. # [17:38] <hroi> radio23: what you think of this template? http://www.joomlademo.ca/using-joomla/extensions/templates/beez5/home-page-beez5.html
  579. # [17:38] <hroi> the joomla people seem to love divs inside divs inside divs inside divs
  580. # [17:38] <hroi> surely they know what they are doing, but problem is I dont
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  591. # [17:49] <radio23> hroi: Avoid joomla at all costs to life and limb and sanity. :)
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  593. # [17:50] <radio23> hroi: The joomla people are known to make some of the worst markup this side of the universal higgenbottom god atom thingamajig.
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  598. # [17:54] <hroi> oh boy
  599. # [17:54] <hroi> radio23: how about drupal?
  600. # [17:55] <hroi> reading joomla templates is quite a logic exercise thought, maybe good for me
  601. # [17:55] <radio23> hroi: Well we call it DruFAIL™.
  602. # [17:55] <radio23> It's god divitis up the arse.
  603. # [17:55] <radio23> hroi: Check back in #css I spouted some stuff at you there as well.
  604. # [17:55] <radio23> s/god/got/
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  686. # [20:19] <hroi> hi
  687. # [20:20] <hroi> can someone help find a simple solution to vertically "middle" aligning an <img> followed immediately by <h1>
  688. # [20:20] <hroi> for some reason a vertical-align:middle; doesnt do the trick for me
  689. # [20:21] <gavacho> got a jsfiddle?
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  694. # [20:22] <hober> hroi: what's the height of the <img>'s parent?
  695. # [20:22] <hroi> gavacho: http://jsfiddle.net/84qBQ/
  696. # [20:23] <hroi> its this website logo and title: ycd-cg.com
  697. # [20:23] <hroi> hober: the height of the parent is substantial, ehm 400 or 500 px I think
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  701. # [20:24] <zackiv31> Anyone successful in getting input type="file" working with multiple directories under firefox? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5826286/how-do-i-use-google-chrome-11s-upload-folder-feature-in-my-own-code seems to only be working for me with chrome
  702. # [20:28] <hroi> hober: gavacho: according to this guy http://blog.themeforest.net/tutorials/vertical-centering-with-css/
  703. # [20:28] <hroi> hober: gavacho: vertical centering is rather difficult
  704. # [20:29] <hroi> so maybe I should reposition the text using absolute coordinates
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  788. # [22:21] <Pomax> what's a good doc/tutorial for file dropping on a webpage?
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  794. # [22:23] <pandeiro> Pomax: look at MDN
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  803. # [22:32] <manuchill> Pomax, u can have a look here, https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_files_from_web_applications/
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  807. # [22:36] <Pomax> nice, thanks both
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  809. # [22:37] <Pomax> that made http://pomax.nihongoresources.com/pages/ABinaryParserGenerator/OpenType/validate.html a lot easier to use now.
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  816. # [22:46] <manuchill> Pomax, what is it you're building?
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  818. # [22:47] <Pomax> generic codec generator for files that have an explicit specification description
  819. # [22:48] <Pomax> so at the moment my main focus is to make it work for OpenType fonts (decoding is turning out to be relatively painless)
  820. # [22:48] <Pomax> (https://github.com/pomax/a-binary-parser-generator)
  821. # [22:48] <manuchill> so what would be an output then? still seems pretty abstract to me
  822. # [22:48] <Pomax> but I'm working with some people at mozilla that work with fonts and font-related things, and being able to inspect a font by just dropping it onto a website is ridiculously useful for them
  823. # [22:49] <Pomax> it shows you the data layout for the font, on the page
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  826. # [22:50] <Pomax> to keep the spec language universal I'm concurrently making it deal with PNG files, so that'll get the same treatment (drop file on page, get the data layout)
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  828. # [22:55] <manuchill> sounds good ;)
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  839. # [23:10] <gmad> hi!
  840. # [23:13] <gmad> I need advice with file reading function. I would like to create function, which return the file contet, but always I get "undefined" when I call it. http://pastebin.com/Gru8cBv2
  841. # [23:13] <gmad> I would be appreciate for help.
  842. # [23:14] <gmad> I feel I shoul to use jQuery deferred.when() and then() functions, but I do not know how...
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  845. # [23:15] <moo-_-> gmad: readFile() must be asynchronous so you can never return the file contents
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  847. # [23:15] <moo-_-> instead you must pass it as an argument to a callback
  848. # [23:16] <moo-_-> gmad: and you are correct, deferred pattern would make your code simpler
  849. # [23:16] <manuchill> does the "onloadend" get called at all?
  850. # [23:16] <gmad> ould you advice me, how to do it?
  851. # [23:16] <manuchill> shouldn't that be onload?
  852. # [23:16] <manuchill> gmad, you can have a look here https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Using_files_from_web_applications/
  853. # [23:17] <gmad> I am not sure, I am fresh in html5 filesystem api
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  855. # [23:18] <gmad> manuchill: it something else
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  858. # [23:21] <gmad> moo-_-: how to use deferred with readFile? $.when( function_with_read_file() ).then(function(result){ do_something_with_result }) doesn't work
  859. # [23:22] <moo-_-> gmad: I am sorry it's 12:00 PM here. You need to learn using deferred pattern generally first. I suggest you try to fiind a tutorial with high guidance level.
  860. # [23:22] <moo-_-> going to sleep ->
  861. # [23:22] <gmad> Thanks!
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  864. # [23:25] <manuchill> gmad, have u read the MDN doc already?
  865. # [23:25] <manuchill> my guess was that would answer your question
  866. # [23:26] <gmad> manuchill: not all, but it is not about filesystem in sandbox.
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  868. # [23:28] <manuchill> http://html5doctor.com/drag-and-drop-to-server/
  869. # [23:28] <manuchill> gmad, ^
  870. # [23:29] <manuchill> or have a look here
  871. # [23:29] <manuchill> https://developer.mozilla.org/en/DOM/FileReader
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  874. # [23:30] <manuchill> if u need more support, i think its best to share some more code to give others better understanding in what you're aiming at
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  880. # [23:31] <gmad> manuchill: again it is not exactly what I am doing, please go to http://pastebin.com/Gru8cBv2, to see my problem (return undefined)
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  884. # [23:34] <manuchill> shouldn't "this.result" be "e.result" ?
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  886. # [23:36] <manuchill> mmm, here http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/file/dndfiles/ they use "e.target.result"
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  895. # [23:44] <gmad> manuchill: I solve my problem my self. Not exactly in way, which I want, but also works. http://pastebin.com/0cAzRReG
  896. # [23:44] <manuchill> awesome, i'll have a look in a minute or so
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  898. # [23:45] <gmad> please go ahaed
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  900. # [23:47] <manuchill> nice one gmad
  901. # [23:47] <gmad> Thanks!
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  903. # [23:47] <gmad> I would be usefull to paste it somewhere for others with comments
  904. # [23:48] <manuchill> indeed
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