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  29. # [00:50] <JohnTeddy> I have a 100 page ODT document, I want to use some fancy HTML to make this document a slideshow on the web. What is the best way to convert this into markdown?
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  96. # [02:20] <barryhjames> Wow, this room is quite. Anyone want to start up the conversation?
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  113. # [02:45] <Bravado_> can anyone think of a faster way to compare a group (in this case line) of pixels (imageData) to a chosen background color than to loop over each value of every pixel? I've tried creating a dummy line and comparing the bytes of the buffer, but i couldn't it to come out right and i don't even know if that would be faster
  114. # [02:49] <barryhjames> Bravado_: How big is this line? And why do you have to match the color? In what context and why does this need to happen?
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  120. # [02:55] <Bravado_> It's for sprite detection, i was hoping it would be faster than pushing a non bg pixel and then scanning for min and max values, so the linescan algorithm keeps expanding until it finds all edges are the bg. i need to be able to detect sprites and then select sequences, ,make new sprite sheets etc.
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  122. # [02:59] <barryhjames> Bravado_: Wow, that sounds intense. I have nothing. Good luck with that.
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  254. # [06:21] <jaybuffet> is this the right place to ask about the filesystem api?
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  259. # [06:28] <jaybuffet> i have a fiddle.. http://jsfiddle.net/pEAZd/4/
  260. # [06:28] <jaybuffet> this is more of an async programming question
  261. # [06:28] <jaybuffet> listing of the files happens before the files are pushed to the array
  262. # [06:28] <jaybuffet> so i m wondering what my options are
  263. # [06:29] <jaybuffet> and am i using the readEntries() correctly.. i read somewhere that it had to be called multiple times to make sure it returns all the files
  264. # [06:34] <jaybuffet> hello?
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  274. # [06:47] <jaybuffet> how are there so many people on here but no one talking?
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  276. # [06:50] <trout> jaybuffet: want me to write a script which gives a BOFH excuse if no one talked here in the last N seconds ?
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  279. # [06:51] <jaybuffet> please do
  280. # [06:51] <jaybuffet> N = 30
  281. # [06:52] <trout> jaybuffet: but the plate voltage too low on demodulator tube
  282. # [06:54] <jaybuffet> better increase it then, maybe 90
  283. # [06:55] <trout> jaybuffet: but rhythmic variations in the voltage reaching the power supply.
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  285. # [06:57] <jaybuffet> better clean it up then
  286. # [06:57] <trout> but there are IRQ-problems with the Un-Interruptible-Power-Supply
  287. # [06:58] <trout> and we only support a 28000 bps connection.
  288. # [06:58] <trout> [ BOFH excuse servers are great ]
  289. # [06:58] <jaybuffet> i feel like this will eventially answer my question
  290. # [06:59] <trout> which is ?
  291. # [06:59] <jaybuffet> oh
  292. # [06:59] <jaybuffet> filesystem api.. http://jsfiddle.net/pEAZd/4/
  293. # [06:59] <jaybuffet> mmore of an async issue than anything
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  297. # [07:00] <jaybuffet> listing of files happens before the file is added to array
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  300. # [07:07] <jaybuffet> almost there with http://jsfiddle.net/pEAZd/5/
  301. # [07:07] <jaybuffet> though i want the file array to by a File type, not FileEntry
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  462. # [11:02] <beasty> hi guys
  463. # [11:03] <beasty> what would you guys recommend to store offline data on a ipad ?
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  584. # [14:02] <hroi> what is the desired way of adding lengthy javascript and many script sources to the head section?
  585. # [14:02] <hroi> can I add all these to a separate html, and then do some sort of inline include?
  586. # [14:03] <_shorinji_> they have to be included directly
  587. # [14:05] <hroi> _shorinji_: thanks, then cluttered is the way
  588. # [14:05] <_shorinji_> afraid so
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  591. # [14:06] <_shorinji_> some ppl minify and concatenate their js in production
  592. # [14:06] <hroi> _shorinji_: how about writing a separate javascript file that then includes the code, and the other scripts?
  593. # [14:06] <_shorinji_> but in the end, every script still needs to be included in <head> (or <body>)
  594. # [14:07] <_shorinji_> javascript has no native "include" instruction
  595. # [14:07] <hroi> _shorinji_: ok, lets say I have some js code + libraryA, libraryB, ...
  596. # [14:07] <hroi> oh.. ok
  597. # [14:07] <hroi> _shorinji_: so best I could do is perhaps make my js code into a js file
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  600. # [14:08] <_shorinji_> there are libraries like require.js and dojo that implements custom file loading
  601. # [14:09] <_shorinji_> hroi: sure, separate them in a way you find logical
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  610. # [14:23] <Vanek> привет, помогите. Сразу прошу прощения за мой перевод. У меня есть слушатель jquery $(function () {
  611. # [14:23] <Vanek> $('.goal')
  612. # [14:23] <Vanek> Но когда я добавляю новый элемент на страницу
  613. # [14:23] <Vanek> $('.goal_free_list').append('<div class='goal'></div>');
  614. # [14:23] <Vanek> То слушатель уже не вызывается.
  615. # [14:23] <Vanek> Hi, help me. Immediately apologize for my translation. I have a student jquery $ (function () {
  616. # [14:23] <Vanek>      $ ('. goal')
  617. # [14:23] <Vanek> But when I add a new element to the page
  618. # [14:23] <Vanek> $ ('. goal_free_list'). append ('<div class='goal'> </ div>');
  619. # [14:23] <Vanek> The listener is not called.
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  622. # [14:25] <_shorinji_> dont see any listener
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  626. # [14:32] <Vanek> _shorinji_ , $('.goal')
  627. # [14:32] <Vanek> .attr('draggable', 'true')
  628. # [14:32] <Vanek> .bind('dragstart', function (event) {
  629. # [14:32] <Vanek> event.originalEvent.dataTransfer.setData('text/plain', $(this).attr('id'));
  630. # [14:32] <Vanek> return true;
  631. # [14:32] <Vanek> });
  632. # [14:33] <_shorinji_> if I was you, I'd try break down the code into smaller steps
  633. # [14:33] <_shorinji_> and verify each part
  634. # [14:33] <_shorinji_> don't think anyone can give detailed help how to solve your exact problems
  635. # [14:34] <_shorinji_> also more of a #javascript question
  636. # [14:34] <_shorinji_> or probably #jquery even more
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  757. # [17:01] <jinxII> is the <audio> method the only way to get mp3s to play on iFaps devices?
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  765. # [17:09] <evasivx> Morning all!
  766. # [17:09] <mikehaas763> Does anyone see any usability problems from changing the GMT in a selection dropdown from GMT to UTC? I read that it's been called UTC since 1972
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  769. # [17:11] <mikehaas763> pacific coast evasivx? lol
  770. # [17:12] <evasivx> mikehaas763, http://thinkmoult.com/ugt.html
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  772. # [17:14] <evasivx> ;)
  773. # [17:16] <mikehaas763> evasivx, that is quite awesome lol. Although the only reason I said that is because I just asked a question about timezone stuff so it was fresh in my mind
  774. # [17:16] <evasivx> mikehaas763, i noticed that after actuall haha, how are you doing?
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  776. # [17:18] <mikehaas763> in general?
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  779. # [17:25] <evasivx> mikehaas763, yes
  780. # [17:26] <mikehaas763> Pretty good I just learned a bit about timezones and now know that it is most appropriate to refer to them with UTC. Yourself?
  781. # [17:29] <evasivx> mikehaas763, turning a clients older site into a responsive one :3
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  784. # [17:32] <Owner> evasivx~# SOUNDS FUN
  785. # [17:32] <evasivx> it is!
  786. # [17:33] <Owner> TROLL
  787. # [17:33] <mikehaas763> evasivx Ah nice, I haven't gotten a chance to do anything with responsive yet. Do you use any frameworks to help assist it or do you just use media queries?
  788. # [17:34] <evasivx> mikehaas763, just got into it. SUPER easy. And yes, i used a typography stripped version of Skeleton. For super simple grids and out of the box responsiveness: http://www.getskeleton.com/
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  790. # [17:37] <mikehaas763> thanks for the link evasivx, so does it use the same classes as 960.gs such as class="grid_4"? So that with 960 layouts I've done before could be easily adapted?
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  792. # [17:38] <evasivx> mikehaas763, actually it's easier. Uses "one column" or "nine columns"
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  794. # [17:38] <evasivx> mikehaas763, http://projectomni.com/kmi/themes/kmi/css/skeleton.css
  795. # [17:39] <evasivx> (not the site i'm working on)
  796. # [17:39] <evasivx> The time i'm about to change over is http://uccregina.com/ which i made years ago :P
  797. # [17:39] <evasivx> one i'm talking about*
  798. # [17:41] <mikehaas763> evasivx, nice that looks really nice. Maybe we could trade some work some time if you are not a server side programmer as well?
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  801. # [17:41] <mikehaas763> is that second link you gave me a 16 column version?
  802. # [17:41] <evasivx> mikehaas763, actually i'm just a front end developer with intermediate knowledge of backend stuff. Do you do server side stuff? My boss asked me to find someone willing to do contract stuff over the internet for us
  803. # [17:42] <evasivx> mikehaas763, yeah
  804. # [17:42] <evasivx> We pay one guy from australia and another from sweden right now
  805. # [17:42] <evasivx> hourly or quote on projects
  806. # [17:42] <Owner> evasivx~# woah, what you got
  807. # [17:43] * evasivx should keep this on topic probably
  808. # [17:43] <Owner> im a back-end boss
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  810. # [17:43] <evasivx> Owner, lots of stuff, iphone apps, websites that require databases or logic, stuff tied into joomla or concrete5. Little ecommerce stores, anything our clients want
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  812. # [17:44] <Owner> word
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  814. # [17:45] <mikehaas763> evasivx, I sent you a message
  815. # [17:46] <mikehaas763> I've never worked with joomla but I have some experience with Drupal, and I almost went with concrete with a client last year.
  816. # [17:47] <evasivx> mikehaas763, haha i just started making template for concrete5 (super awesomely easy) and been working with joomla forever
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  820. # [17:51] <Owner> my front-end skills are abysmal
  821. # [17:52] <Owner> it is not my focus
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  823. # [17:53] <evasivx> Owner, what are your skillsets?
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  828. # [17:54] <Owner> everything except CSS
  829. # [17:54] <Owner> and making things shiny
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  832. # [17:58] <jayar> heh
  833. # [17:58] <jayar> thats where i shine, owner :)
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  838. # [17:59] <Owner> jayar~# too tedious for me
  839. # [17:59] <Owner> never works on all browsers...not worth my time at all
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  841. # [18:02] <jayar> gotchya
  842. # [18:02] <jayar> im more of the artist, so i like to make it look shiny
  843. # [18:03] <jayar> but anyway... anyone use any html5 audio players? i'm lookin for something to play samples on iCrap devices
  844. # [18:03] <jayar> since they still dunno wtf flash is
  845. # [18:04] <Owner> heh, iCrap
  846. # [18:04] <Owner> SPREAD THE HATE!
  847. # [18:04] <Owner> wait an artist that didnt drink the kool-aid?
  848. # [18:05] <jayar> yup
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  850. # [18:06] <Owner> what do you think of crApple UX
  851. # [18:06] <Owner> do you think their 'think backasswards' campaign is harming everything else
  852. # [18:07] <jayar> i mean, im not a pc or mac guy, i just prefer pc's cuz i can build em, and would rather not have an apple device in my hand thats just a bunch of iCandy
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  855. # [18:08] <jayar> well, since everything is going touch/multi-touch, they're kind of innovators with the UX for that, but i'd rather be able to edit/create my own world than stare at a bunch of pretty icons
  856. # [18:09] <jayar> look at windows 8, thats goin that way
  857. # [18:09] <jayar> lil late on the bandwagon
  858. # [18:09] <Owner> everything is going that way
  859. # [18:09] <jayar> yup
  860. # [18:09] <Owner> because of crApple
  861. # [18:09] <Owner> i hate it
  862. # [18:09] <Owner> for so long now
  863. # [18:09] <jayar> i dunno, i think it was inevitable
  864. # [18:10] <Owner> i swear they are dumbing us down
  865. # [18:10] <Owner> and giving us trackable devices
  866. # [18:10] <Owner> for thsoe reasons only
  867. # [18:10] <jayar> i mean who wants a mouse attached to their phone? or a stylus tht you lose
  868. # [18:10] <Owner> who wants totally fake and shallow touch glass interfaces
  869. # [18:10] <jayar> yea i dont like their TOS, and i wanna be able to turn everything off except what i want to run
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  872. # [18:13] <Owner> they have infected everything
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  874. # [18:13] <jayar> now we get to make "responsive" websites for everything... yay.
  875. # [18:13] <Owner> fuck that
  876. # [18:13] <Owner> this is supposed to be fun
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  878. # [18:13] <jayar> well my fav thing is, i get paid to make old websites into "responsive" websites
  879. # [18:14] <Owner> sounds painful to me
  880. # [18:14] <jayar> so i cant complain too much, i just wish they'd come up with some standards so i didnt have so many damn "if" statements in my code
  881. # [18:14] <jayar> feels like IE 6/7 all over again
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  883. # [18:15] <Owner> if you want to kill development, create a standards body
  884. # [18:15] <jayar> i still have my website non-IE compatible. cuz if you're lookin at my site with IE, i dont want your business anyway
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  887. # [18:15] <Owner> exactly!
  888. # [18:15] <Owner> mine has a big red, INTERNET EXPLORER NOT SUPPORTED
  889. # [18:17] <jayar> its funny when my clients complain about not looking right in old ver of IE, i show them webstats for their websites, and only 2% of them use IE
  890. # [18:17] <jayar> they shutup quick
  891. # [18:18] <moo-_-> please use Google Chrome Frame forced installer for old IE users
  892. # [18:18] <moo-_-> it's just one line of Javascript
  893. # [18:18] <jayar> never heard of it
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  895. # [18:19] <moo-_-> http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/chrome-frame-getting-started/#TOC-Detecting-Google-Chrome-Frame-and-Prompting-to-Install
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  897. # [18:19] <moo-_-> http://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/chrome-frame-getting-started/chrome-frame-faq#TOC-What-is-Google-Chrome-Frame-
  898. # [18:19] <jayar> and i could throw up rusty nails before i'm gonna give a crap about old IE users
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  900. # [18:21] <jayar> that didnt look like one line to me...
  901. # [18:22] <moo-_-> Google Chrome Frame seamlessly enhances your browsing experience in Internet Explorer. It displays Google Chrome Frame enabled sites using Google Chrome’s rendering technology, giving you access to the latest HTML5 features as well as Google Chrome’s performance and security features without in any way interrupting your usual browser usage.
  902. # [18:22] <jayar> "Currently, 64-bit versions of IE are not supported" fail
  903. # [18:23] <jayar> so yea, i wont be using that method, moo-_-
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  905. # [18:23] <Owner> blocking all IE is a much better method
  906. # [18:23] <jayar> Owner: agree
  907. # [18:23] <Owner> this is why we need a webdevelopers union
  908. # [18:23] <Owner> that has standards
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  910. # [18:24] <Owner> standards of what kind of 'users' we will support
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  912. # [18:24] <Owner> by supporting the other ones we are just making the problem worse
  913. # [18:25] <jayar> most of my clients are engineers or architects, so they run 64bit XP Pro (with SolidWorks, AutoCAD...etc.) so when they complain, i just go to their office, install chrome and they're like, wow, this is so much better
  914. # [18:25] <Owner> chrome fonts blow
  915. # [18:25] <jayar> yes, if every developer dropped support for IE, it wouldnt be around anymore and we wouldnt have to worry about em
  916. # [18:26] <jayar> fonts are the least of worries lol
  917. # [18:26] <David_Bradbury> As a side note, IE10 is very promising
  918. # [18:26] <David_Bradbury> And actually beats Chrome, Safari, and Firefox in terms of performance in a number of areas
  919. # [18:26] <jayar> sweet. i'll still never use it
  920. # [18:26] <Owner> performance...who cares
  921. # [18:26] <Owner> it needs to work without any specfic ie hacks
  922. # [18:27] <David_Bradbury> Alright, please name a hack we'll need to use for IE10
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  924. # [18:27] <jayar> i dont use hacks for IE anything
  925. # [18:28] <David_Bradbury> I can't stand IE, but IE10 actually looks - Good
  926. # [18:28] <Owner> i dont know, i refuse to dev for ie
  927. # [18:28] <jayar> in my world, IE doesnt exist
  928. # [18:28] <jayar> ooh iCandy
  929. # [18:28] <jayar> IECandy :)
  930. # [18:28] <David_Bradbury> Well, continue to enjoy your circlejerk then :)
  931. # [18:28] <Owner> maxthon is the best browser
  932. # [18:28] <jayar> lol
  933. # [18:28] <jayar> ;-p
  934. # [18:28] <Owner> david doesnt know
  935. # [18:29] <jayar> im sure he knows more than i do, i just have a hate for IE because it hindered my development for years
  936. # [18:29] <jayar> if it works with what i make, sweet. if not, screw it
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  938. # [18:30] <Owner> http://html5test.com/
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  940. # [18:31] <David_Bradbury> It has hindered everything for years, but I'm actually looking forward to IE10 and Windows 8 to bring hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people out of the world of IE6-9
  941. # [18:31] <Owner> IE10, 319 points
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  943. # [18:31] <Owner> Maxthon 3.4.1, 422 points
  944. # [18:31] <Owner> ie10 is shit
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  946. # [18:32] <jayar> well if it does, David, i'll clap for them. i might even tip my hat. cuz thats a damn good accomplishment. how big is it? will it run on Win98? i still have clients that run that on old shop computers
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  948. # [18:34] <David_Bradbury> Owner: Wait, so you're comparing the highest scoring browser to an unreleased browser?
  949. # [18:34] <David_Bradbury> For metric, the most recent Firefox browser gets a 330
  950. # [18:34] <Owner> chrome canary gets 440 or something
  951. # [18:34] <jayar> my chrome got 414 +13 bonus points...
  952. # [18:35] <jayar> and its on my crap-laptop runnin vista ultimate
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  954. # [18:36] <David_Bradbury> Well we'll just have to wait. :) Also, I doubt IE10 will run on Win98. That has been unsupported for years.
  955. # [18:36] <jayar> i wonder what my other PCs are runnin...
  956. # [18:36] <jayar> yea, you cant even use windows update on that anymore
  957. # [18:36] <jayar> i run firefox on my linux machines
  958. # [18:37] <jayar> but i forget which versions cuz i dont use the web with em
  959. # [18:37] <jayar> i still like firefox for development
  960. # [18:38] <David_Bradbury> I use Fx for my main development, then spot check in other browsers, then run a full test at the end
  961. # [18:38] <jayar> i've never even heard of Maxthon
  962. # [18:38] <jayar> yea i use almost all browsers other than Opera to develop
  963. # [18:39] <jayar> i run Mac OSX on an old Dell just to check Safari
  964. # [18:40] <jayar> wonder if IE's box model has been fixed
  965. # [18:40] <David_Bradbury> I use BrowserStack for cross-OS testing
  966. # [18:40] <jayar> i would if i wanted to pay for it
  967. # [18:41] <jayar> the target audience of my clients makes it not worth the $20/mo
  968. # [18:41] <David_Bradbury> I believe it has, but I actually prefer border-box over content-box
  969. # [18:41] <jayar> margin instead of padding?
  970. # [18:41] <David_Bradbury> Ah, my employer pays for it so I don't really think about it
  971. # [18:42] <jayar> ah, i work for myself
  972. # [18:42] <Owner> jayar~# how do you advertise
  973. # [18:42] <jayar> i dont
  974. # [18:42] <jayar> well not directly, i dont pay for it
  975. # [18:42] <jayar> its all word of mouth
  976. # [18:42] <jayar> social networking
  977. # [18:43] <jayar> i work for some big music festivals in my area, so my logo is everywhere
  978. # [18:43] <jayar> i got 6 clients last fest
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  981. # [18:45] <jayar> i make the banners that hang on both sides of the stage, my logo on the bottom... i had a HUGE banner hanging from a hot-air balloon giving rides, with my logo hangin on it... we distribute around 150,000 fliers a year with my logo all over em
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  983. # [18:46] <jayar> i goto festivals and im backstage, and young artschool grads are like "who made your fliers?" and they come meet me
  984. # [18:46] <jayar> bands that get started and have these fancy flash websites, are now asking me to make them compatible with iPhones n stuff. so i make out pretty well
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  986. # [18:50] <jayar> blackberry has a tablet?
  987. # [18:50] <jayar> BlackBerry 10 scores a 447
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  989. # [18:51] <jayar> Dophin is sweet
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  991. # [18:54] <Owner> jayar~# nice
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  993. # [18:57] <Owner> iSheep
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  995. # [19:03] <Owner> my iReligion (uReligion) doesn't allow me to use IE
  996. # [19:03] <Owner> i am allowed to use OSX or Ubuntu, BUT NOT LINUX
  997. # [19:03] <Owner> or windows
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  1001. # [19:13] <David_Bradbury> Wat
  1002. # [19:13] <b-ot> Ruby IRC bot don't works, What are i'm doing wrong?
  1003. # [19:14] <David_Bradbury> You're allowed to use Ubuntu but not Linux?
  1004. # [19:14] <Owner> David_Bradbury~# ubuntu isnt linux
  1005. # [19:14] <Owner> look at their website ffs
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  1007. # [19:15] <David_Bradbury> Sarcasm?
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  1009. # [19:16] <rumproast> greetings
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  1011. # [19:17] <Owner> David_Bradbury~# they don't consider it linux
  1012. # [19:17] <techrush> what if you configured cent-os to use unity and the ubuntu theme/icon pack
  1013. # [19:17] <techrush> are they smart enough to know the difference :P
  1014. # [19:18] <David_Bradbury> That's just silly
  1015. # [19:19] <Owner> techrush~# no
  1016. # [19:19] <Owner> they are using ubuntu for a reason
  1017. # [19:19] <Owner> not being smart is one of them
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  1023. # [19:24] <Jon47> "Linux for humans"
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  1025. # [19:26] <Owner> subhumans
  1026. # [19:26] <Owner> Linux for iSheep
  1027. # [19:26] <jayar> linux is just a GUI for Unix
  1028. # [19:26] <jayar> and Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux
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  1030. # [19:27] <jayar> i run Ubuntu and Dreamlinux... both distros of linux, dif GUIs
  1031. # [19:27] <Owner> i dont use a gui for linux
  1032. # [19:27] <jayar> yea there are dif kernels but the base is the same
  1033. # [19:28] <Owner> always just ssh
  1034. # [19:28] <Owner> =]
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  1036. # [19:29] <Owner> if i have to use a gui, i use XFCE4
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  1043. # [19:33] <jayar> i use ssh a lot too, cuz im too lazy to use my KVM to switch between machines ;-p
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  1045. # [19:34] <jayar> i just found synergy, and thats pretty damn cool, but now i need more screens
  1046. # [19:34] <Owner> yeah synergy....
  1047. # [19:34] <Owner> fucks up copy and paste between systems pretty good
  1048. # [19:34] <Owner> at least for me
  1049. # [19:35] <Owner> the shit i go through to copy and paste between systems
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  1051. # [19:35] <Owner> you dont want to know
  1052. # [19:35] <Owner> its also entertaining when capslock state gets confused between two systems and a vm
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  1054. # [19:35] <Owner> starts camelcasing and shit for no reason
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  1059. # [19:47] <jayar> i dont need to copy n paste between systems
  1060. # [19:47] <jayar> so i havnt hit that prob yet
  1061. # [19:47] <jayar> but thanx for the heads up
  1062. # [19:48] <jayar> isnt there like a hotkey for that or something?
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  1069. # [20:01] <Owner> linux has 3 clipboards
  1070. # [20:01] <Owner> so i think that is part of the problem
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  1165. # [21:37] <routerpro> how do i prevent post data from converting special characters to unicode
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  1186. # [22:02] <routerpro> can someone help me with submitting data in form
  1187. # [22:02] <routerpro> its not being formatted correctly
  1188. # [22:02] <routerpro> how to send data to restful app
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  1204. # [22:18] <routerpro> can anyone help or is nobody here
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  1207. # [22:24] <routerpro> :(
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  1211. # [22:26] <api> here... but never used "restful app" before...
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  1220. # [22:38] <routerpro> api I am new to this so i could be using the terminology incorrectly
  1221. # [22:38] <routerpro> api: I want to submit an HTTP POST request via form, with some values user entered and others static, as JSON
  1222. # [22:38] <routerpro> if that makes sense i hope :S
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  1231. # [22:57] <Lisv> isn't that js? this is the html-channel, isn't it?
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  1234. # [22:59] <api> its form processing question the json/javascript part doesn't really come into the question
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  1237. # [23:08] <sunbeam> I've got a menu, a UL with LI's, this is 900px wide, and 40 px height. These items can have submenu items. When these submenu ul's are displayed, overflow should be not hidden. But, the problem is, when a user would have added more menu items than what fits in this menu, then the menu items that are on the next line also show up. How can I avoid this?
  1238. # [23:08] <sunbeam> - also show up when the top menu item that contains the submenu is hovered
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  1261. # [23:28] <chovy> i started a forum at http://javascriptforum.net if anyone's interested in joining.
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