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  246. # [06:40] <Discuss> Hey, I'd like to know: (1) is it possible to save html5 h.264 video streams to like your pc and if so, using what ? and (2) is it possible to find out when playing back html5 h.264 video streams in your broswer, what it is using to decode it, like what player/filters/codecs/etc ? (the reason why I ask is, sometimes when I playback video, I get artifacts but I'm not sure if its (A) just a poor video or (B) something else , but one thin
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  248. # [06:41] <Discuss> offline local h.264 files, I never get artifacts.
  249. # [06:41] <Discuss> )
  250. # [06:45] <Discuss> j ##flash
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  328. # [09:25] <rm2kdev> Hello
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  330. # [09:25] <rm2kdev> Guys this is my first time here i usually goto cocos2D-iphone
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  332. # [09:26] <rm2kdev> anyway im working on a html5 javascript canvas project tilemap specifically and im getting horrendous frame rates
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  334. # [09:26] <rm2kdev> i use the requestanimframe for my rendering loop, im drawing a 10x10 2D tilemap with 6 layers from 1 tilesheet
  335. # [09:27] <rm2kdev> and im getting between 30 and 45fps, on my i7 / 680 cpu
  336. # [09:27] <rm2kdev> even worse on iphone im getting 10 - 15 and on android 4.0.3 im getting about 20 - 30
  337. # [09:27] <rm2kdev> is there anything i can do to increase performance or is canvas just horribly slow?
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  340. # [09:30] <rm2kdev> anyone?
  341. # [09:30] <asher^> rm2kdev have you used dev tools to see what exactly is holding it up?
  342. # [09:30] <rm2kdev> yeah, drawImage but i expected this
  343. # [09:31] <rm2kdev> most of the time is spent in the game render loop
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  345. # [09:31] <rm2kdev> but its a typical (pseudo) for x = 0 to 10 for y = 0 to 10 draw image(x*32,y*32)
  346. # [09:31] <rm2kdev> type scenario
  347. # [09:32] <rm2kdev> ive got the browser quest map loaded as a json object
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  349. # [09:33] <asher^> i dont work with animation so i dont think i can be of much help to you, if you post an example you might get some more help though
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  351. # [09:33] <rm2kdev> http://members.iinet.net.au/~rm2kdev/GameTest3/
  352. # [09:33] <rm2kdev> here is a link :)
  353. # [09:33] <rm2kdev> to anyone who wishes to view
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  355. # [09:34] <asher^> 40fps here. what is your target speed?
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  358. # [09:35] <rm2kdev> well 120fps rendering would be ideal as i havnt even added game logic yet
  359. # [09:35] <rm2kdev> as soon as i add game logic to this i expect to loose a good 30% of speed there
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  361. # [09:36] <rm2kdev> i just dont understand how it can be so laggy
  362. # [09:36] <rm2kdev> while browserquest is so fast
  363. # [09:36] <rm2kdev> im only rendering the visible portion of the screen. and visible layers
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  367. # [09:37] <rm2kdev> ive got the same thing running under xna at over 400fps without logic
  368. # [09:38] <rm2kdev> i have another demo also "GameTest2"
  369. # [09:38] <rm2kdev> that runs a nicer 80fps with a smaller map
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  371. # [09:39] <rm2kdev> but then i saw a couple ofyoutube videos and people are making 2D top down rpg's that look to be running fantastically smooth with complex logic
  372. # [09:39] <rm2kdev> am i coding an old javascript standard? or is there something wrong with the way i call functions
  373. # [09:39] <asher^> have you looked at the source of similar things to see what they might be doing differently?
  374. # [09:40] <rm2kdev> yes
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  376. # [09:40] <rm2kdev> as far as i can see when i trace through others codes the core rendering behing their games
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  378. # [09:40] <rm2kdev> is much similar for x= 0 to 10 for y = 0 to 10 drawtile(map(x,y))
  379. # [09:41] <rm2kdev> its more abstracted but i figured that would only increase the time it takes as it has to go through more function calls
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  381. # [09:43] <rm2kdev> and then theres librarys like impact.js and lime.js which ive gone through also, which all appear to be doing the same thing
  382. # [09:43] <rm2kdev> its just weird...
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  385. # [09:46] <rm2kdev> Thank you for your sugestions asher^
  386. # [09:46] <asher^> rm2kdev, maybe its because youre using setinterval with 1ms timing?
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  388. # [09:47] <rm2kdev> oh wrong build
  389. # [09:47] <rm2kdev> ive got the requestANimationframe loop
  390. # [09:47] <asher^> lol
  391. # [09:47] <rm2kdev> its the same though
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  393. # [09:47] <rm2kdev> the logic is taking more than 1milisecond so set interval is maxed out
  394. # [09:48] <rm2kdev> and waiting for logic to finish before the next frame~
  395. # [09:48] <rm2kdev> so using the requestanimation mode
  396. # [09:48] <rm2kdev> its also maxed out
  397. # [09:48] <rm2kdev> ive rebuilt it now about (Litrally) 6 times today?
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  399. # [09:49] <rm2kdev> using diffrent game loops, multiple canvases, individual tile images, larger smaller maps...
  400. # [09:49] <rm2kdev> etc
  401. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> my last attempt was to draw the entiremap to an offscreen canvas generated at runtime onload
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  403. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> and then blit from that to the screen canvas based on the position
  404. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> so it would only have 1 drawcall
  405. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> that works fantastically 60fps on all phones
  406. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> but the limitation is that with the browserquest map that is something like 150wide 600tall? * 16pixels in each direction the browser just crashes rendering at the start works fine for a 50x50 map
  407. # [09:51] <rm2kdev> and also you cant animate the static layers as theyve basically beencompressed down into a flat layer
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  506. # [12:30] <Godfather_> hi
  507. # [12:30] <Godfather_> i have inserted a pop-up with a html5 video tag inside, all works fine except on IE9 i get a blank video-container and i have to do right-click on it and the play, if i embeed the video without popups theres no problems, this just happens on IE9, all other browsers works fine, any ideas? http://84.127.79.26/LocutoresBU/es/component/content/article/423-got2b-blowdry-kit.html click on the left
  508. # [12:30] <Godfather_> image to see it
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  511. # [12:36] <Log1x> http://geekswithblogs.net/Wessty/archive/2011/03/13/ie9-and-the-mystery-of-the-broken-video-tag.aspx ?
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  624. # [14:06] <localidiot> Is specifying the attribute type="text/javascript" in a script tag deprecated?
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  626. # [14:07] <Ms2ger> It's allowed, but not necessary
  627. # [14:07] <moo-_-> text/javascript is the default, but there can be others
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  631. # [14:09] <localidiot> Ah, thanks.
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  661. # [14:58] <MarcAurelio> Hi, I have a favicon save in GIMP as png and have in my html5 doc <link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="/favicon.png"> write in <head> tag then I open Chrome and I can not see the favicon...
  662. # [14:58] <routerpro> hi
  663. # [14:59] <dahlfors> convert it to .ico format
  664. # [14:59] <asher^> chrome supports png
  665. # [14:59] <dahlfors> then it will work in most browsers
  666. # [14:59] <asher^> ico will make it work for IE too
  667. # [15:00] <asher^> have you tried putting the full url in the href?
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  670. # [15:00] <MarcAurelio> dahlfors, I have test with the convert and the same prob.
  671. # [15:01] <dahlfors> then I'd go with asher^'s advice
  672. # [15:01] <dahlfors> I usually use full url as well
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  675. # [15:01] <dahlfors> and I think I use png renamed to .ico
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  677. # [15:02] <asher^> .ico is preferred because all browsers support it
  678. # [15:02] <b-ot> asher^, memorised “ico”.
  679. # [15:02] <b-ot> asher^, definitely being used as one ;)
  680. # [15:02] <dahlfors> or hmmm. no, I don't. I converted it to proper .ico format
  681. # [15:03] <asher^> i usually just dump it in the domain root, do all browsers still look there?
  682. # [15:06] <MarcAurelio> asher^, i test it on my PC, I have not upload to a Webspace.
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  684. # [15:06] <asher^> the #1 reason that i use favicons is to avoid the 404s in my error log file :p
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  719. # [15:45] <dahlfors> I like that favicons shows up in tabs for users
  720. # [15:45] <dahlfors> makes it easier for them to separate sites when browsing with lots of tabs
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  743. # [16:39] <routerpro> any good tutorials out there for creating movable objects on a webpage and being able to "connect" them with lines?
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  752. # [16:50] <Jonadabe> html5 is supported since what version of IE?
  753. # [16:51] <asher^> 9
  754. # [16:52] <edwardbc> add quotes to 'supported'
  755. # [16:52] <asher^> www.caniuse.com
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  757. # [16:53] <Jonadabe> hum... I see. Thanks
  758. # [16:55] <Ms2ger> "html5 is supported" doesn't mean anything
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  763. # [17:01] <edwardbc> in IE terms means "we do not fully support it"
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  765. # [17:02] <moo-_-> IE9 was written long time ago and has received 0 updates, so any support can be only partial
  766. # [17:02] * moo-_- bash bash bash
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  768. # [17:10] <Jonadabe> in IE terms everythings is: "we do not fully support it". hehehe
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  776. # [17:17] <edwardbc> tell me about it, because of it, next week I'll have to write some JS to generate an SVG gradient just for freaking IE9
  777. # [17:17] <edwardbc> -_-
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  850. # [19:01] <sunbeam> Does anyone know why the twitter "Tweet Button" javascript code also generates another button at a certain location in each blog post?
  851. # [19:01] <sunbeam> It now adds the button before the start of each blog post
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  864. # [19:18] <moo-_-> sunbeam: I suggest you ask from Twitter developers because no one here can know
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  866. # [19:24] <evasivx> How many classes can an element have before it's not recognized by older browsers?
  867. # [19:25] <sunbeam> moo-_-: ok
  868. # [19:25] <Velmont> evasivx: Test it.
  869. # [19:26] <evasivx> Velmont, yeah but now i get to have a conversation with randoms!
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  871. # [19:27] <tw2113> evasivx my question is why you need 1 element with who knows how many classes
  872. # [19:28] <evasivx> tw2113, using a grid system. So a class="" on some divs is: class="four columns alpha omega autospa" lol
  873. # [19:28] <evasivx> I thought someone said there is a limit once, just asking to make sure, haven't run into any problems yet
  874. # [19:28] <tw2113> 5 classes will be fine
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  876. # [19:28] <evasivx> So far yes, was just wondering if there is a limit, if i ever needed to know
  877. # [19:29] <tw2113> i'm doubtful
  878. # [19:29] <evasivx> Fair enough
  879. # [19:29] <tw2113> but if you're needing THAT many, you're doing something wrong
  880. # [19:29] <tw2113> :P
  881. # [19:29] <evasivx> Thats what i was thinking too :P
  882. # [19:30] <tw2113> imho at least
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  885. # [19:33] <Velmont> evasivx: Well, IE 5.5 even renders fine with over 280 classes... http://msrapp.no/test.htm
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  888. # [19:35] <sunbeam> Did anyone in here ever added facebook wall links on some site or blog? It's a public facebook profile where I need to get these from
  889. # [19:35] <evasivx> Velmont, interesting. Thank you
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  891. # [19:40] <evasivx> Since #css is dead, anyone wanna take a stab at helping me with something?
  892. # [19:40] <evasivx> http://projectomni.com/ucc/ Check out those colored blocks. Why is Violet bakcground on the last one and white on the others (don't know why there is white at all seeing as that image is a transparent ping
  893. # [19:40] <evasivx> png*
  894. # [19:41] <evasivx> (things are box shadowed so i can see stuff and how it responsively interacts
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  915. # [20:07] <ozette> I tried the gamepad api, but it does not recognize my device.
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  1653. # [21:48] <edwardbc> fail
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  1660. # [21:58] <MediaWork> hi
  1661. # [21:59] <MediaWork> is there a way for me to fix the aspect ratio of my divs: http://ycd-cg.com/jl/ }
  1662. # [21:59] <MediaWork> ?
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  1684. # [22:44] <tw2113> you mean make the divs fit the dimensions of the image inside them?
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