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- # [00:32] <jjb123> Hey everyone, I'm having some trouble using .fill() that I was hoping someone could help me with. The problem is that when I create a path using .moveTo and .lineTo (that is opened and closed with beginPath and closePath) and try to fill it, it doesn't fill. Here is my code: http://ideone.com/AlINe
- # [00:32] <jjb123> There is a little gap at the end of the path which makes me think closePath isn't working right
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- # [00:49] <dudewhat> so I'm trying to make a webapp that will play back an audio files dynamically
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- # [00:54] <dudewhat> is this possible?
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- # [01:04] <ininit> Hi, anyone know if there is a channel for paper.js?
- # [01:07] <tw2113> you'd probably be better discussing issues and whatnot on the github page
- # [01:07] <tw2113> or mailing list
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- # [04:05] <wingy> didn't know there is a html5 channel
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- # [04:40] <grantg> Can someone explain why the CSS3 working draft changed the <angle> implementation?
- # [04:40] <grantg> Prefixed linear gradients work differently than their unprefixed counterparts, in that <angle> is computed differently
- # [04:41] <grantg> starting point for angle 0 was changed, and so was the direction
- # [04:41] <grantg> Why the hell is it no longer the unit circle?
- # [04:42] <grantg> I noticed this in firefox nightly first
- # [04:42] <grantg> -moz-linear-gradient with the same text as linear-gradient will cause a different gradient direction
- # [04:43] <grantg> due to this
- # [04:45] <rehat> does the <BLINK> tag work anymore?
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- # [04:46] <rehat> nvm
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- # [04:52] <wingy> is it true that if i use app cache in html5 then i can't use CDN served files?
- # [04:52] <wingy> i suspect this since i get fetching errors on all my CDN files (jQuery, AngularJS etc)
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- # [04:54] <grantg> wingy: Some browsers error if you try to use the same files across multiple pages, if one page happened to app cache them
- # [04:54] <grantg> this is a bug in firefox that makes app cache useless
- # [04:55] <grantg> for offline storage
- # [04:55] <wingy> i dont think i have that problem
- # [04:55] <grantg> Well I do. :/
- # [04:56] <grantg> Offline storage is fucked in firefox. Where if you request said url that was offline stored in a separate page firefox will freak out due to an edge case
- # [04:56] <wingy> Chrome basically can't retrieve any CDN file I have specified in my index.html and since I cannot have them under CACHE: directive it can't fetch them
- # [04:56] <grantg> wingy: That's html5 manifest
- # [04:56] <grantg> chrome likes to hold onto bad data
- # [04:56] <grantg> solution: don't use html5 manifest
- # [04:56] <grantg> chrome doesn't follow the spec there
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- # [04:57] <grantg> in fact, none of the browsers do it right
- # [04:57] <grantg> they either a) hold on to expired data or b) bug out like firefox when requesting an app cached resource (app cached in a different page) in a non app cached page
- # [04:58] <grantg> btw, chrome holds onto expired data whether you tell it to or not in the manifest file
- # [04:58] <grantg> it just does as long as the manifest file exists
- # [04:58] <grantg> don't use it, it's a failed spec
- # [04:59] <wingy> grantg: Chrome seems to fetch the updated manifest file for me
- # [04:59] <grantg> they go "oh it's offline storage, that means it's ok to keep super expired data, whether the manifest says to or not"
- # [05:00] <grantg> wingy: Make sure your paths are correct
- # [05:00] <grantg> wingy: Does clearing your entire history fix your problem?
- # [05:00] <grantg> Chrome will only clear out app cache when you force clear everything
- # [05:01] <grantg> or manually delete its entry in the chrome settings
- # [05:01] <wingy> what a headache
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- # [05:02] <grantg> yeah
- # [05:02] <grantg> hence why I call it a failed spec
- # [05:02] <grantg> each browser does their own thing
- # [05:02] <grantg> and some ignore the manifest rules
- # [05:02] <wingy> isn't that for js as well
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- # [07:22] <hemanth> What's the ES equivalent group for HTML5, w3?
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- # [07:47] <Benvie> TC-39
- # [07:47] <Benvie> ECMA International's TC-39
- # [07:47] <Benvie> http://www.ecma-international.org/memento/TC39.htm
- # [07:49] <Benvie> aaand for working with html5
- # [07:49] <Benvie> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-script-coord/
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- # [08:03] <hemanth> Benvie, thanks!
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- # [08:05] <hemanth> how fugly is injecting a <p contenteditable=true> freaking type here</p> to an iframe?
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- # [08:09] <cryptopsy> i don't understnad how people can say what is ugly or not when people don't even follow w3c or validate their code anymore
- # [08:10] <cryptopsy> google itself produce invalid kml
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- # [08:14] <hemanth> cryptopsy++
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- # [08:17] <tw2113> valid != visual prettiness
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- # [08:17] <cryptopsy> don't think he was talking about that
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- # [08:23] <hemanth> yup, I was not talking about that
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- # [09:14] <ItsMeLenny> if you have a folder full of images, can you use javascript to pull all the images and put them in a list without specifying each one, or is that a php thing?
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- # [09:32] <dahlfors> with js - only if you know the name of the images, like a sequence. otherwise, you need something serverside
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- # [09:35] <ItsMeLenny> ah, thats a shame dahlfors :P
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- # [09:35] <ItsMeLenny> so you cant just say for all images in the folder, or find all images in that folder
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- # [09:45] <tw2113> how would js know they exist?
- # [09:45] <tw2113> i wonder if you could ajax request a directory listing
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- # [10:04] <ItsMeLenny> tw2113, i thought something with html5 could do it
- # [10:05] <tw2113> it's not a swiss army knife
- # [10:05] <tw2113> regardless of some hype
- # [10:06] <ItsMeLenny> hmmm
- # [10:07] <tw2113> keep in mind that javascript, for the most part, lives in the context of the browser window
- # [10:07] <tw2113> which is why i wondered out loud if you could ajax the directory contents
- # [10:08] <ItsMeLenny> one thing i was doing with javascript, and someone said it was shit, was using it to list my pages, so that i could just change the one javascript file and all the other pages would pull it
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- # [10:10] <ItsMeLenny> tw2113, not sure if you can somehow view the javascript source for my nav bar http://www.suctioncuphands.com/
- # [10:11] <tw2113> http://www.suctioncuphands.com/navigation.js
- # [10:11] <tw2113> one thing I've come to appreciate with js, it's all accessible from view-source/inspectors
- # [10:12] <tw2113> however, i have to agree that using js to create the menu isn't the way I'd end up doing it
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- # [10:13] <tw2113> i'd just use a php include() for that part, so that I can reuse the nav and only have 1 place to update
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- # [10:13] <ItsMeLenny> tw2113, thats the one
- # [10:13] <ItsMeLenny> (computer crashed)
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- # [10:14] <tw2113> [03:02am] <tw2113> one thing I've come to appreciate with js, it's all accessible from view-source/inspectors
- # [10:14] <tw2113> [03:03am] <tw2113> however, i have to agree that using js to create the menu isn't the way I'd end up doing it
- # [10:14] <tw2113> [03:03am] <tw2113> i'd just use a php include() for that part, so that I can reuse the nav and only have 1 place to update
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- # [10:15] <ItsMeLenny> ive never delved into php not once
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- # [10:15] <ItsMeLenny> do you like my moving, intense coloured, background
- # [10:16] <tw2113> not a personal preference, but i won't say you can't use it ;)
- # [10:17] <tw2113> anyways, 3am for me, so bed time
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- # [11:34] <natrixnatrix89> Can anyone recommend a good html5 canvas game? Canvasrider is by far the best and most addictive I've seen so far. But really, it was some time ago. Hasn't anyone developed something better?
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- # [11:40] <moo-_-> natrixnatrix89: angry birds?
- # [11:40] <natrixnatrix89> lol. But that's nothing new too
- # [11:42] <MCHammel> http://www.phoboslab.org/xtype/
- # [11:42] <MCHammel> is pretty cool
- # [11:42] <natrixnatrix89> yeah.
- # [11:42] <natrixnatrix89> it's awesome
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- # [12:13] <charge> http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/labs/html5-canvas-arc-crazy-snake/ , I would like to modify this example so that it would create a dashed line instead of continuous
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The end :)