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  54. # [01:25] <thatryan> so, anyone hiring front-end devs...?
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  58. # [01:26] <tw2113> i say apply at google
  59. # [01:26] <tw2113> *nod*
  60. # [01:26] <thatryan> paul_irish: hook me up? ;)
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  63. # [01:26] <tw2113> apply to microsoft while you're at it
  64. # [01:27] <tw2113> and try to get to use a macbook for your work computer
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  67. # [01:28] <tw2113> oh my http://theprofoundprogrammer.com/
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  152. # [03:51] <mottihoresh> Hi Everybody
  153. # [03:53] <mottihoresh> what do you guys think about design specs as an interview stage?
  154. # [03:53] <mottihoresh> do you think it makes any sense/worth the effort?
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  221. # [06:53] <thatryan> evening
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  225. # [06:59] <thatryan> anyone here? Bueller?
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  228. # [07:09] * tw2113 was reading about http://livereload.com/
  229. # [07:10] <thatryan> yeah that looks cool saw it the other day while looking for the chome extension for sublime text
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  232. # [07:11] <tw2113> purchased compass.app
  233. # [07:11] <tw2113> now looking at that for when i have a bit more money
  234. # [07:11] <tw2113> working to streamline my dev
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  239. # [07:12] <thatryan> compass.app? cant you run that from terminal?
  240. # [07:12] <thatryan> or codekit even does all that
  241. # [07:13] <tw2113> http://compass.handlino.com/
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  243. # [07:13] <tw2113> i'm on mac now, i'm going to use all the tools that others have been already
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  245. # [07:14] <thatryan> have you seen this? http://incident57.com/codekit/
  246. # [07:14] <thatryan> its hot
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  284. # [09:20] <pixolin> Hi. I'm reading an article about responsive web design and it mentions a "greenfield build of templates and stylesheets". As my English simply isn't sufficient, I have no cluewhat a 'greenfiedl rebuild' is. Could someone jump in, please?
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  286. # [09:21] <pixolin> "greenfield _re_build" that is
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  289. # [09:27] <pixolin> found it, thanks
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  356. # [13:30] <borkdude> which famous sites use tags like article, section, etc? obviously Wikipedia doesn't yet
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  407. # [14:02] <Jonadabe> Hi there. How can I have a href or a link to some url in logo.svgz?? <object data="/i/logo.svgz" type="image/svg+xml" width="235" height="59"></object>
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  443. # [15:31] <Jonadabe> I want to make the "logo.svgz" clickable. <a href="#"><object data="logo.svgz" type="image/svg+xml" width="235" height="59"></object></a> but I can't do it. How can I do it?
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  641. # [22:26] <njbair> this may not be the appropriate channel to ask this, but can anyone recommend the proper codec for embedded video?
  642. # [22:26] <petersed> this always makes me happy
  643. # [22:26] <petersed> http://www.hulu.com/watch/1397
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  647. # [22:30] <erming> Looking through the W3 HTML5 specs, I noticed the <button> element. I had never seen that one in use before. I think it makes far better semantics than <input type="submit"/>. Other than <input> being more flexible with the value field, are there any use cases where <button> is more appropriate?
  648. # [22:31] <njbair> Button is better because you can style your <input> tags without affecting buttons if you use it
  649. # [22:31] <njbair> IMHO
  650. # [22:31] <erming> Ah, good point!
  651. # [22:32] <njbair> of course, you can use [type=text] or whatever the syntax is in your CSS, but <button> is simpler and more semantic
  652. # [22:32] <njbair> Button tags will be labeled by whatever text is between them... like <button>Click here</button>
  653. # [22:34] <erming> Yup, I went for a trip on Google. Now when I think of it, I've made some call-to-action buttons to provoke some Javascript animations using <a href="#">Click here</a> before, maybe I should use <button> in the future.
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  655. # [22:34] <njbair> both are appropriate. Button is just more specific.
  656. # [22:34] <erming> Makes more sense, than having a "failing" hyperlink
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  658. # [22:35] <njbair> Consider adding the button dynamically using JS, so that users without JS won't see a button that they can't use.
  659. # [22:36] <erming> True
  660. # [22:37] <njbair> but then again that's more work, and may or may not make sense based on your target audience
  661. # [22:37] <erming> Or, seeing as they make my life as a developer more of a hassle, I might just leave them a big shiny button that does nothing ;)
  662. # [22:38] <njbair> these days you almost have to try to not have javascript
  663. # [22:39] <erming> Yeah, I always avoid using javascript for content based stuff to keep the search engines in the loops.
  664. # [22:41] <erming> Oh, I misinterpreted your last sentence.. Oh well :)
  665. # [22:41] <njbair> yeah i was looking at that after i sent it
  666. # [22:41] <njbair> but I couldn't think of a better way to say it
  667. # [22:41] <erming> Heh, :)
  668. # [22:42] <njbair> These days, if you don't have JavaScript, you almost have to be trying not to.
  669. # [22:42] <njbair> there
  670. # [22:42] <njbair> now those who discover the chan logs in 100 years won't think I was dumb
  671. # [22:43] <erming> I read somewhere that 50%+ of the websites today is using jQuery
  672. # [22:43] <njbair> I do. I would never go back.
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  674. # [22:43] <erming> I think that says alot about the spread of javascript :D
  675. # [22:43] <njbair> It's so much faster and takes care of so much cross-browser shenanigans.
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  679. # [22:44] <ericelliott> "I think that says alot about the spread of javascript" <-- I obviously missed something very important or insightful.
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  681. # [22:45] <njbair> that's what people say when they see that I'm in the channel
  682. # [22:45] <erming> :D
  683. # [22:46] <erming> ericelliott: [22:33] <erming> I read somewhere that 50%+ of the websites today is using jQuery
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  686. # [22:46] <ericelliott> hmm.
  687. # [22:46] <erming> 4th paragraph: http://blog.jquery.com/2012/06/22/jquery-1-8-beta-1-see-whats-coming-and-going/
  688. # [22:48] <erming> What I said was not completely correct, in there they say "of all the major web sites", but I still think it counts :)
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  698. # [23:03] <ericelliott> crap
  699. # [23:04] <ericelliott> .isResolved() and .isRejected() got removed.
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  701. # [23:04] <ericelliott> I have been using those a lot.
  702. # [23:04] <ericelliott> refactor time!
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