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- # [01:02] <sunbeam> any jquery datepicker users in here?
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- # [03:01] <sasori> msg nickserv identify hacker
- # [03:01] <sasori> lol
- # [03:01] <tw2113> password change time
- # [03:01] <sasori> how to change password ? lol
- # [03:01] <tw2113> i'd start with /msg nickserv help
- # [03:02] <sasori> ok
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- # [03:40] <veleiro> Can someone tell me the best way to pause an html5 video element at a certain time using javascript, but then pressing a buttons resumes play? I have "if (this.currentTime >= 10) {this.pause(); }" but envoking ELEMENT.play(); or pressing play with the controls does not resume play properly (of course, it stops because currentTime is > 10)
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- # [05:50] <quest88> Didn't they just have the html5devconf in may?
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- # [05:55] <quest88> I ask because I see another one in October.. it seems awfully soon.
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- # [08:09] <y3di> what are people using data attributes for?
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- # [08:53] <bitgod> wrong chan sorry
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- # [08:55] <poolshark> lol. i love how people with overinflated nicknames like bitgod ask some stupid questions some times
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- # [09:40] <hemanth> anyone playing around with device proximity APIs?
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- # [09:43] <luncht1me> wish I had a device to try with
- # [09:44] <[AD]Turbo> hi there
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- # [16:50] <Trisox> what is the best swipe detection lib out there that works with cloned elements so paged binded? now using jquery mobile.. for test this works but adds a lot of extra elements to the page i dont need or want
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- # [17:07] <Ducki> Trisox: did you try hammer.js?
- # [17:07] <Trisox> nope
- # [17:07] <Trisox> thnx for tip forgot about that one :D
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- # [17:14] <Trisox> /https://github.com/stephband/jquery.event.swipe worked for me
- # [17:14] <Trisox> https://github.com/stephband/jquery.event.swipe
- # [17:15] <Trisox> ill take a look @ hammer.js tomorrow
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- # [18:22] <Pomax> is selecting on "[data-id=...]" faster, equal to or slower than ".className" selection?
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- # [18:28] <thatryan> Pomax: ooh i like that question
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- # [18:28] <bendman> is the use of logical operators to check the existence of an object before modifying its properties is bad? (var test = test || {};)
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- # [18:30] <Pomax> bendman, not as far as I know, unless, and it's a biggy, test is "false" or "0" or ""
- # [18:30] <Pomax> because they coerce to false.
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- # [18:35] <paul_irish> bendman: that line isnt fantastic.
- # [18:35] <paul_irish> bendman: better if it were var test = window.test || {};
- # [18:35] <paul_irish> but its not a huuuge deal
- # [18:35] <paul_irish> hoisting is weird
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- # [18:36] <thatryan> paul_irish: hoisting?
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- # [18:37] <paul_irish> ?g javascript weblog hoisting
- # [18:37] <bot-t> paul_irish, Function Declarations vs. Function Expressions | JavaScript ... - http://javascriptweblog.wordpress.com/2010/07/06/function-declarations-vs-function-expressions/
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- # [18:37] <paul_irish> ?g ben cherry hoisting
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- # [18:37] <bot-t> paul_irish, Adequately Good - JavaScript Scoping and Hoisting - by Ben Cherry - http://www.adequatelygood.com/2010/2/JavaScript-Scoping-and-Hoisting
- # [18:37] <paul_irish> ^ ^
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- # [18:37] <thatryan> why thank you
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- # [18:39] <Progster> how could I use HTML5 validation to make sure that a user selects an option from a radio button group?
- # [18:39] <bendman> paul_irish: thanks, good point. that article is an interesting read
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- # [18:42] <paul_irish> Progster: hm
- # [18:43] * paul_irish shrugs
- # [18:43] <b-ot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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- # [18:45] <b-ot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- # [18:45] <thatryan> LOL love that
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- # [18:50] <Pomax> Progster, are you using name="mygroup[]"?
- # [18:51] <Pomax> err, no that's checkbox grouping, ignore that O_O
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- # [18:58] <thatryan> anyone going to html5 dev con?
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- # [19:09] <Pomax> hm. why does http://jsfiddle.net/QAtTe/1/ not work in the jsfiddle iframe, but behaves correctly outside an iframe
- # [19:09] <Pomax> (CSS for radio/checkbox elements)
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- # [19:22] <Charun> Well that's interesting http://i.imgur.com/wUkuv.png
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- # [19:39] <bendman> is there a way to build a new object using the 'new' keyword with the constructor being an object which also was created using the 'new' keyword?
- # [19:40] <bendman> I keep getting the error 'TypeError: object is not a function'
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- # [19:46] <thatryan> paul_irish: know what you are speaking on in october?
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- # [19:57] <laszlokorte> I there, any performance/profiling expert around? I have a table large scrollable table with sticky header (like googldocs excel). i do the scrolling manually by catching the wheel-event and reassembling the table-dom in an rAF-loop. I already spent a LOT time optimizing the whole thing but the pure layout-time for redrawing the table takes about 30ms, sometimes even more. yesterday someone suggested not using a table because layouti
- # [19:57] <laszlokorte> itself is slow. but using divs instead did not change anything. removing _all_ css definitions reduces the layout time drastically. but adding some of the css definitions increases it back up to >30ms. Whats the best (or any) way to increase the layout time? (I use only class selectors in css, a few attr-selectors, nearly no nested selectors, no shadows, no rounded corners, no gradients…)
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- # [19:59] <bendman> basically I'm trying to have chained prototypical inheritance work with a utility construction function, but with console.log showing the correct object type (rather than F in this gist https://gist.github.com/3417810)
- # [19:59] <David_Bradbury> Why are you redrawing the entire table every time a wheel-event happens? That naturally is going to slow things down
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- # [20:01] <bendman> laszlokorte: are you doing all of this for a sticky header? because that is what "position: static;" is good for, or "overflow: auto;" depending on how it needs to work
- # [20:03] <laszlokorte> bendman: one reason is the sticky header, but another is that the table has about 1000 rows and up to 30-40 columns. over a year ago when we started developing the application drawing one big table which all its rows caused very slow event handling because of the large dom
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- # [20:04] <laszlokorte> and things like "hide the 3rd column" or "add one column" was really slow
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- # [20:07] <laszlokorte> David_Bradbury: I redraw the who table to minimize redraw events. I have two table objects, and about 20 row-objects. one table is visible, one is detached, when scrolling I move 19 of the rows from the visible to the detached table, then manipulate the 20th row which should not be visible after scrolling anymore, to contain the new data to be visible and attach it to the detached table, than I replace the one table with the other
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- # [20:10] <laszlokorte> on the next scrolling I do the same again. when scrolling very fast this happens in one step for multiple rows (e.g. moving 15 of the rows without manipulation from one table to the other and updating the other 5 rows content before adding to the "new" table)
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- # [21:15] <Progster> I have two divs stacking on top of one another, but there's a tiny space between them (approx 10-15px or so), and there is no padding or magins on either of the two inner divs. Any reason why the 2nd div wouldn't just immediately follow the first?
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- # [21:18] <thatryan> are they floated?
- # [21:18] <Progster> no
- # [21:19] <Stoob> Progster: hit f12 and look at why they're why they are
- # [21:19] <Stoob> or link me the site and i'll look
- # [21:19] <Progster> I did. Can't seem to fathom why
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- # [21:19] <Progster> It's a multi-step form, so I'm displaying some divs as none and one as block
- # [21:20] <Progster> the first screen looks good, but the next two don't
- # [21:20] <Progster> It's gonna be a bitch to jsfiddle but I can give it a try. This is all local for now
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- # [21:26] <Progster> think I got it
- # [21:27] <Progster> had a form inside of the div, which for some reason caused a margin to come out altho chrome inspector ain't showing it
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- # [21:30] <bendman> is it even possible to get a prototype chain with a depth of more than 1 using implied prototypical inheritance with the new keyword?
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- # [21:39] <haizum__> anyone know why IE9 is stripping out the % in my 100% parameter of my <video> tag? its interpreting it as 100px and therefore not sizing my video properly...
- # [21:40] <haizum__> that is, the width
- # [21:40] <laszlokorte> bendman: like this : http://jsfiddle.net/DrM7t/1/ ?
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- # [22:09] <Keu> Does anyone have any recommendations on a good polyfill for form validation? I'm using html5 for all form validation but sadly need to support older browsers.
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- # [22:31] <David_Bradbury> https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/wiki/HTML5-Cross-Browser-Polyfills - Always remember to validate your information on the server as well though
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- # [22:33] <Keu> Thanks David. I'll check that out. Information is always validated on the server. Just saving the page from being reloaded.
- # [22:35] <David_Bradbury> Yup :)
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The end :)