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  25. # [00:28] <Pomax> and then you write your own version of "jQuery"
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  27. # [00:28] <Pomax> 1.8kb gzip-minned. Fairly decent.
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  29. # [00:29] <Pomax> https://github.com/Pomax/tiny-toolkit
  30. # [00:29] <Pomax> (feel free not to use it if you're already using jquery ;)
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  53. # [00:58] <grantg> uuugh, so they actually did it
  54. # [00:59] <grantg> included js gbc in the Octane bench :O
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  80. # [01:39] <sunbeam> how can i change in the jquery ui datepicker that it doesn't show like August 2012 but only August?
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  114. # [02:23] <yonkeltron> it would seem that when i run the ant build script, i start getting ReferenceErrors saying Backbone isn't defined. i imagine this happens because minification mangles the name in backbone-min.js, yes?
  115. # [02:23] <yonkeltron> i'd like to learn how to fix this problem
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  157. # [03:43] <defaultro> hey folks, do we have an online scripting site for html5 similar to jquery at jsfiddle.net?
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  185. # [04:22] <acconrad> This question is more for front-end devs in general - is performance better if you grab a bunch of files (css, js) from a CDN or batch everything into one file and use a private CDN?
  186. # [04:23] <acconrad> I just noticed CDNjs and it looks neat, but I wonder if minifying one giant file and hosting it on something like CloudFront is better for performance
  187. # [04:24] <acconrad> I know one advantage is downloading files concurrently, but I'm pretty sure there's a limit, especially for mobile, as most phones can only maintain 4-6 concurrent connections
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  197. # [04:37] <tw2113> download as few files as necessary from the CDN with as few http hits you can muster?
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  207. # [05:04] <acconrad> tw2113: so wouldn't that mean hosting 1 JS file from something like CloudFront rather than my own JS + jQuery CDN + bootstrap CDN?
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  209. # [05:05] <tw2113> or somehow combining many into 1 served file to the user
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  216. # [05:19] <Keu> The advantage to using popular CDNs is the JS library may be already cached in the user's browser reducing the amount of downloads.
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  304. # [07:40] <tw2113> i love how much support the :not() pseudo selector has
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  306. # [07:40] <tw2113> i doubt i'll run into issues with good browsers, and for the IE section, i already have selectivizr
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  638. # [16:35] <haizum__> for some reason, firefox won't show my html5 <video> controls until the video is clicked on (and playing started)
  639. # [16:35] <haizum__> works in ie, chrome
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  671. # [17:05] <Jon47> haizum__: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=469211 ??
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  676. # [17:08] <haizum__> Jon47: that bug is from 2008 and is not related to the html5 <video> tag
  677. # [17:08] <haizum__> in any case, i found the solution
  678. # [17:08] <haizum__> had to set autoplay="auto"
  679. # [17:08] <haizum__> which breaks ie
  680. # [17:08] <haizum__> so a browser detection is needed
  681. # [17:08] <Jon47> woot
  682. # [17:08] <haizum__> very ugly
  683. # [17:08] <Jon47> that's awful
  684. # [17:08] <haizum__> yup
  685. # [17:08] <Jon47> c'est la vie
  686. # [17:08] <haizum__> i long for the day when browsers get along
  687. # [17:10] <MCHammel> or you cold ignore ie and live a happy life
  688. # [17:10] <haizum__> now ie isn't showing my poster image
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  690. # [17:10] <haizum__> even though it was working a minute ago
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  694. # [17:19] <haizum__> ok so this is ridiculoud
  695. # [17:19] <haizum__> ridiculous
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  697. # [17:19] <haizum__> firefox moves the controls tag to the beginning of the <video> parameters
  698. # [17:19] <haizum__> if i use firebug to move controls to the end, they work fine
  699. # [17:19] <haizum__> wtf
  700. # [17:19] <haizum__> why is it rearranging my code
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  712. # [17:27] <haizum__> omg
  713. # [17:28] <haizum__> now if i insert the HTML with javascript, the poster doesn't show up in ie
  714. # [17:28] <haizum__> even though the EXACT same markup works
  715. # [17:28] <haizum__> if i don't use js to write it
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  1180. # [21:06] <_keith> is the /> needed on tags in HTML5, or was that only for XHTML ex: <br />
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  1183. # [21:06] <thatryan> not needed
  1184. # [21:06] <David_Bradbury> ^
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  1186. # [21:07] <_keith> some with style sheet <link tags in the head, correcT?
  1187. # [21:07] <_keith> same*
  1188. # [21:07] <David_Bradbury> Everything
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  1366. # [23:57] <gchristensen> is it kosher to do <li><h3>foo</h3><div> ... </div></li> ?
  1367. # [23:57] <moo-_-> gchristensen: it's not
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  1369. # [23:58] <moo-_-> though I have no personal experience in Jewish dietary laws
  1370. # [23:58] <gchristensen> heh
  1371. # [23:58] <gchristensen> I suppose <section> is more appropriate
  1372. # [23:58] <gchristensen> oh maybe not.
  1373. # [23:58] * gchristensen just heads off to be silly
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