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  4. # [00:09] <ottodestrukt> anyone know how to get mouse position from a DragEvent in FF?
  5. # [00:09] <ottodestrukt> pageX/Y and clientX/Y seem to be always 0
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  17. # [00:27] <paul_irish> David_Bradbury: thatnks for the heads up.
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  19. # [00:28] <paul_irish> David_Bradbury: are you good with nginx?
  20. # [00:28] <paul_irish> i need help porting my sites to it
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  22. # [00:30] <David_Bradbury> No problem - And I wish I could help you there, but I only know some basics.
  23. # [00:30] <David_Bradbury> @ paul_irish
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  25. # [00:31] <paul_irish> kk
  26. # [00:33] <paul_irish> http://fremycompany.com/BG/2012/Ambient-light-sensors-and-CSS-Media-Queries-971/
  27. # [00:33] <paul_irish> :|
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  29. # [00:36] <thatryan> that scares the shit out of me lol
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  32. # [00:42] <hober> paul_irish: let's make mqs for ALL the crazy dap specs
  33. # [00:42] <hober> @media (screen and vibrating) { ... }
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  59. # [01:14] <Vitrify> I've done it.
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  61. # [01:15] <Vitrify> virtually loading a page into a div.
  62. # [01:15] <Vitrify> without java
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  103. # [01:50] <Vitrify> does embedded windows media player not work with chrome?
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  173. # [03:47] <thatryan> paul_irish: ping
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  183. # [04:01] <Nine_9> hey guys i'm making a web interface for my app and i need to stream video (something like 5 fps is okay) however, i'd like it to be acessible from mobile platforms like ios and android, should i use html5 or ordinary javascript(jquery) is a better (more compatbile) alternative?
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  206. # [04:37] <martisj> like the | character does it have to be escaped.
  207. # [04:37] <martisj> or what it's called.
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  300. # [07:23] <thatryan> seriously, too quiet...
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  308. # [07:35] <martisj> agreed thatryan
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  323. # [08:02] <mokush> is there some way to cache html pages in appcache? in a way that jquery mobile will also used the cached versions?
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  329. # [08:14] <mike5w3c> mokush: I believe appcache will cache any HTML file that has a manifest attribute
  330. # [08:15] <mike5w3c> (of course along with any files that are in the manifest itself)
  331. # [08:15] <mokush> mike5w3c: how about actual html pages, that haven't been loaded? I tried specifying them in the manifest, but on luck
  332. # [08:16] <mike5w3c> yeah that's not going to work because they're not embedded content
  333. # [08:16] <mike5w3c> and if they haven't been loaded, you can't cache them :-)
  334. # [08:17] <mike5w3c> it sounds like what you're wanting to do is sort of pre-caching them
  335. # [08:17] <mokush> mike5w3c: :(. would've completly replaced the need for phonegap
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  337. # [08:18] <mokush> I thought about rendering all html in a single page, since jquery mobile supports this, but would always require javascript and would remove all the benefits of jqm.
  338. # [08:18] <mokush> for older devices I mean
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  359. # [08:37] <ordinaryman09> guys
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  364. # [08:41] <ordinaryman09> how do you make a text input display like select options when clicked?
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  370. # [08:51] <hemanth> ordinaryman09, use box-showdow
  371. # [08:51] <ordinaryman09> box-showdow?
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  373. # [08:51] <hemanth> ordinaryman09, check this out http://codepen.io/anon/pen/BtLfe
  374. # [08:52] <ordinaryman09> i want like a drop down menu when click the text input
  375. # [08:53] <hemanth> use <datalist>
  376. # [08:53] <ordinaryman09> just like when u have data type date
  377. # [08:53] <ordinaryman09> it will have a dropdown
  378. # [08:53] <ordinaryman09> i want something like that
  379. # [08:53] <ordinaryman09> but not with select
  380. # [08:54] <hemanth> https://developer.mozilla.org/samples/html/datalist.html
  381. # [08:55] <ordinaryman09> exactly
  382. # [08:55] <hemanth> :)
  383. # [08:55] <hemanth> that is datalist
  384. # [08:56] <ordinaryman09> doesn't really work for mobile
  385. # [08:57] <ordinaryman09> ah it doesn't work for safari
  386. # [08:57] <ordinaryman09> :(
  387. # [08:57] <hemanth> mobile FF?
  388. # [08:57] <ordinaryman09> FF ?
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  390. # [08:59] <hemanth> Firefox
  391. # [08:59] <ordinaryman09> oh no, I'm developing app for iphone
  392. # [08:59] <ordinaryman09> so it has to be compatible with safari i suppose
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  398. # [09:04] <ordinaryman09> but can u make something like that with select?
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  400. # [09:05] <ordinaryman09> i don't like the drop down icon on the right side
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  404. # [09:10] <tw2113> i imagine so with javascript. Not sure how well it'd react overall to touch events
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  406. # [09:13] <ordinaryman09> :(
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  433. # [09:44] <[AD]Turbo> hi there
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  435. # [09:45] <ordinaryman09> hello, anybody know how to make datalist for safari?
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  440. # [09:49] <hemanth> ordinaryman09, if you are still around, check this http://jsfiddle.net/trixta/xttwt/
  441. # [09:49] <hemanth> that's must work cross browser
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  443. # [09:50] <hemanth> [AD]Turbo, helo
  444. # [09:50] <ordinaryman09> thanks, let me hceck
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  451. # [09:52] <ordinaryman09> :(
  452. # [09:52] <ordinaryman09> it's still not working for safari
  453. # [09:52] <ordinaryman09> it still display the drop down thingy
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  457. # [09:54] <hemanth> it must work on WebKit
  458. # [09:57] <tuxnani> hi, is this the right channel to ask "how to create so and so?"
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  460. # [10:00] <_shorinji_> I wouldn't object
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  465. # [10:01] <hemanth> so?
  466. # [10:01] <hemanth> ;)
  467. # [10:01] <tuxnani> I want to have http://activeden.net/item/3d-book-shelf/4110 kind of bookshelf to show some books, can we do it in html5? Someone guide me?
  468. # [10:02] <hemanth> damn they are using flash
  469. # [10:02] <hemanth> use a simple CSS accordion
  470. # [10:02] <Trisox> :|
  471. # [10:03] <hemanth> or check out flip.js
  472. # [10:04] <tuxnani> hemanth: thanks
  473. # [10:04] <tuxnani> hemanth: will bother you for some time
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  475. # [10:04] <tuxnani> hemanth: until i achieve it
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  477. # [10:05] <hemanth> tuxnani, no issues
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  486. # [10:13] <ordinaryman09> any1 know how to make the text after we select from the select option centered?
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  488. # [10:13] <ordinaryman09> I did select { text-align:center }
  489. # [10:13] <ordinaryman09> but didn't owkr
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  523. # [11:10] <tuxnani> hemanth: this turn.js seems to be a commercial one
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  542. # [11:20] <hemanth> tuxnani, http://www.turnjs.com/ ?
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  560. # [11:51] <hemanth> tuxnani, http://christophzillgens.com/en/books
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  726. # [15:42] <edupoch> Hi there! Could anyone explain me why this http://jsfiddle.net/fZxjj/1/ works differently in Firefox and Chrome?
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  735. # [15:56] <msk> HTML5 Not support .flv format fro video file?
  736. # [15:56] <asher^^> no, thats flash video
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  740. # [16:01] <msk> Can we use like this?<video><source src="../videos/primary.mp4" type="video/mp4" /><object><param name="movie" value="fallbackplayer.swf"> <embed src="../videos/fallbackplayer.swf"></embed></object></video>
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  743. # [16:03] <msk> OR <script type="text/javascript" src="swfobject/src/swfobject.js"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="html5_video.js"></script><video src="http://onair.adobe.com.edgesuite.net/onair/raulph_hauwert_papervision3d.flv" controls poster="testpattern.png" autoplay="true" width="640"height="360" playcount="500"></video>
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  759. # [16:21] <edupoch> Do you know why 'float: left' works differently when it's placed within the <style> section than when it's in the style attribute of an element?
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  763. # [16:25] <andrew9184> it shouldnt. depends on your implementation
  764. # [16:25] <andrew9184> do you have an example
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  766. # [16:26] <msk> HTML5 Not support .flv format for video file?
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  768. # [16:26] <edupoch> yes, of course! http://jsfiddle.net/fZxjj/1/ vs. http://jsfiddle.net/fZxjj/2/
  769. # [16:27] <msk> http://www.mikechambers.com/mesh/files/video_javascript/
  770. # [16:27] <edupoch> andrew9184: body width should expand in both examples
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  773. # [16:29] <edupoch> andrew9184: but, somehow, it only expands when 'float: left' is within <style>
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  778. # [16:32] <andrew9184> are you sure its not because of the doctype not being delcared
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  782. # [16:34] <edupoch> it's a jsfiddle. I think doctype is correctly declared by default, isn't it?
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  786. # [16:37] <edupoch> I've tested it within a well formed html. Same result
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  792. # [16:46] <andrew9184> hmph no idae
  793. # [16:47] <edupoch> andrew9184: ok, thanks for your help!
  794. # [16:47] <Guest_> （°□°┻━┻ HANDS UP MAGGOTS
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  1176. # [23:37] <paul_irish> quick
  1177. # [23:37] <paul_irish> without looking
  1178. # [23:37] <paul_irish> guess what % of share IE7 has?
  1179. # [23:37] <paul_irish> prizes awarded to folks who guess closest without cheatz. :)
  1180. # [23:37] <tw2113> 3.2%
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  1182. # [23:38] <paul_irish> good guess. anyone else?
  1183. # [23:38] <astearns> 2
  1184. # [23:38] <paul_irish> a fine number.
  1185. # [23:38] <paul_irish> the first prime!
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  1187. # [23:38] <paul_irish> anyody else have a guess?
  1188. # [23:38] <thatryan> that 2% is probably from all the devs testing ;)
  1189. # [23:38] <astearns> heh
  1190. # [23:39] <paul_irish> probably :)
  1191. # [23:39] <thatryan> 1.3
  1192. # [23:39] <paul_irish> july 2012 stats offer 1.28%
  1193. # [23:39] <thatryan> OH WOW
  1194. # [23:39] <tw2113> dang
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  1196. # [23:39] <tw2113> source?
  1197. # [23:39] <thatryan> i was hella close last second
  1198. # [23:39] <paul_irish> http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser_version_partially_combined-ww-monthly-201107-201207
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  1200. # [23:40] <thatryan> awesome
  1201. # [23:40] <paul_irish> 1.21 if you just look at this week
  1202. # [23:40] <tw2113> i find it funny that Fx3.6 is higher than 4
  1203. # [23:41] <paul_irish> same amount as Opera.
  1204. # [23:41] <vikash> shit! I saw it late and missed a chance to win!
  1205. # [23:41] <thatryan> i totally won
  1206. # [23:41] <tw2113> those are some dedicated 3.6 users
  1207. # [23:42] <tw2113> a winner is thatryan
  1208. # [23:42] <vikash> Congrats thatryan so what are you getting?
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  1210. # [23:42] <tw2113> vikash, i thought you were going to bed
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  1212. # [23:43] <vikash> he he! I swear I knew this would come and I have already thought of an answer! :P
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  1214. # [23:44] <vikash> sleep disorder due to computers :)
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  1216. # [23:46] <thatryan> probably a kick in the head ;)
  1217. # [23:46] <David_Bradbury> I don't think computers cause sleep disorders - I think there is a vacuum in space and time that exists around computers when a user gets too engrossed in their work
  1218. # [23:46] * thatryan thinks David_Bradbury has a point...
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  1220. # [23:46] <vikash> actually I was reading http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/24/facebook-gehry-building/
  1221. # [23:47] <David_Bradbury> Huh
  1222. # [23:47] <vikash> HE he!
  1223. # [23:47] <David_Bradbury> I certainly don't mind seeing plants on top of buildings. I think it looks nice
  1224. # [23:47] <David_Bradbury> My main concern is the water and dirt getting too heavy for the structure
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  1226. # [23:48] <vikash> if that is taken care then it would be O(n) and could be done in single pass
  1227. # [23:48] <vikash> :P
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