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  28. # [00:52] <ordinaryman09> anyone know how to make sliding navigation bar?
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  226. # [07:00] <msk> Using HTML5 video tag, how to play the youtube videos?
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  251. # [07:47] <hemanth> msk, Step 1: add &html5=True to your favorite youtube url
  252. # [07:47] <hemanth> Step 2: Find <video/> tag in source
  253. # [07:47] <hemanth> Step 3: Add controls="controls" to video tag: <video controls="controls"..../>
  254. # [07:47] <hemanth> Setp 4 : Thank Simon Flack on SO
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  257. # [07:49] <msk> Hemanth:Thanks , one more thing
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  259. # [07:49] <msk> Using HTML5 video tag, how to play the .flv videos?
  260. # [07:49] <hemanth> !video
  261. # [07:49] <hemanth> hmm not bot?
  262. # [07:50] <hemanth> msk, flv format is not yet dead?
  263. # [07:51] <msk> Hemnath: I mean .flv file.
  264. # [07:51] <hemanth> I know, try src="http://www.myweb.com/video.flv" type="video/mp4"
  265. # [07:51] <hemanth> or src="http://www.myweb.com/video.flv" type="video/flv "
  266. # [07:51] <hemanth> best is use some cleaner formats like ogg or webm
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  285. # [08:20] <msk> Hemanth:Using HTML5 video tag, how to play vimeo site videos?
  286. # [08:21] <hemanth> msk, what are you trying to do?
  287. # [08:22] <hemanth> anyways read http://vimeo.com/blog/post:268
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  362. # [09:34] <ordinaryman09> hello
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  364. # [09:34] <ordinaryman09> any1 know how to specify what images to put for different device's resolution?
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  375. # [09:45] <ordinaryman09> any1 know how to use images on different devices on different resolution?
  376. # [09:46] <[AD]Turbo> hola
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  382. # [09:52] <moo-_-> ordinaryman09: CSS background and media queries
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  384. # [09:52] <ordinaryman09> so I need to use different css files or what?
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  482. # [12:35] <mokush> does anybody have any (technical) idea on how mobify works now?
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  515. # [13:18] <hemanth> mokush, mobify as in?
  516. # [13:18] <mokush> hemanth: http://www.mobify.com
  517. # [13:18] <hemanth> ah that thine
  518. # [13:18] <hemanth> ah that thinge
  519. # [13:18] <mokush> hemanth: I see they're sending different html based on client-side ua-detection, but I'm curious on how they handle dynamic content such as PHP forms and the like
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  521. # [13:19] <hemanth> mokush, that is more of a CSS play, rahter than html5
  522. # [13:19] <hemanth> fluid layout
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  524. # [13:20] <mokush> hemanth: it's more than just mediaqueries. they've got they're own mobile framework with css/js/html. similar, in a way, to jquery mobile
  525. # [13:21] <hemanth> nice, was about to mention mediaquery :)
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  527. # [13:21] <hemanth> it'll indeed be a customiziation of various libs
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  532. # [13:25] <moo-_-> mokush: mobify has two products
  533. # [13:25] <moo-_-> mobify.js and the proxy service
  534. # [13:26] <moo-_-> mobify.js follows pretty much the same principles as this framework http://mobilizejs.com/
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  536. # [13:27] <moo-_-> however, from the perspective of building a new site those services are obsolete as the responsive design support is way to go nowadays
  537. # [13:28] <mokush> moo-_-: so how does it handle php forms, for ex? can it even handle that? or other dynamic content on the existing desktop site
  538. # [13:29] <moo-_-> mokush: there is nothing special in forms or PHP
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  540. # [13:29] <moo-_-> mokush: you need to ask more specific questions
  541. # [13:29] <mokush> moo-_-: from what I understand, the proxy service parses the html, and returns "mobile friendly" html, as it "fits on small screen"
  542. # [13:30] <moo-_-> mokush: that's the proxy service product
  543. # [13:30] <moo-_-> mokush: I am not in position to comment products from commercial companies I have not used
  544. # [13:30] <moo-_-> mokush: if you need a mobile site I suggest you simply convert your theme to responsive design
  545. # [13:30] <mokush> but what about if I have a login-form? does it copy the exact form markup, as in input names, etc. to ensure the proper data gets sent?
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  547. # [13:31] <hemanth> moo-_-,++
  548. # [13:31] <moo-_-> mokush: I am not building your site, your mark-up or mobify proxy service
  549. # [13:31] <moo-_-> mokush: so you won't get answer to those questions
  550. # [13:32] <moo-_-> mokush: but there is no shortcut to mobile happiness
  551. # [13:32] <mokush> moo-_-: I'm not asking as a mobify client. I'm just curios of the tech, since I've seen they open-sourced parts of it.
  552. # [13:32] <moo-_-> just to a responsive design and get away with it
  553. # [13:32] <moo-_-> mokush: they have not open sourced the proxy
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  556. # [13:33] <moo-_-> and if you want to answers to those question I suggest you contact Mobify support service
  557. # [13:35] <moo-_-> mokush: but most likely you will be doing mapping by hand
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  569. # [13:58] <jetienne> q. i would like to take snapshot of a site as it is loading, to see in how much time it display. Is there a chrome extension doing that ? or something similar ?
  570. # [13:58] <jetienne> paul_irish: ever heard of such a thing ?
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  593. # [14:17] <Dasleah> the chrome web inspector has a built-in timeline
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  647. # [15:24] <moo-_-> any idea how to detect tel: protocol and such support in links?
  648. # [15:24] <moo-_-> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12141909/detecting-html-a-click-to-call-support-in-javascript
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  746. # [16:54] <Pomax> does any browser have a built in minified toString for js objects?
  747. # [16:54] <asher^> JSON.stringify()
  748. # [16:54] <Jon47> Pomax: you mean like JSON.stringify?
  749. # [16:55] <Pomax> no
  750. # [16:55] <Pomax> I mean like jscompress
  751. # [16:55] <Pomax> but then as an Object.toCompressedString() or the like.
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  753. # [16:55] <Pomax> JSON doesn't do functions.
  754. # [16:55] <Pomax> or closure minification =)
  755. # [16:56] <asher^> i dont think so, it would be weird to have that in the language
  756. # [16:56] <Pomax> but the browser has the object already in memory, with all the information needed to generate the minified JS source code for it, wondering whether any of them let you grab that code
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  758. # [16:57] <Pomax> why? object.toString() already gives you the plain JS code atm
  759. # [16:57] <Pomax> object.toWhatTheEngineUses() wouldn't be a big step
  760. # [16:57] <Jon47> gotcha, i'm not aware of any browser function for that.. might be able to write a chrome extension or something..
  761. # [16:57] <Pomax> hmm
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  777. # [17:23] <Pomax> also, a tool question. Does anyone know a text editor that can select text from "this opening bracket to its closing bracket" (I know some dev suites can do this, but I'm curious if there are any text editors with the same capability)
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  780. # [17:26] <bendman> Pomax: sublime text 2 can do that with ctrl-shift-M (on windows, idk on mac)
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  785. # [17:30] <Pomax> nice
  786. # [17:30] <Pomax> thanks
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  788. # [17:31] <xec_> shift+cmd+space on mac - if anyone was curious ^^
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  790. # [17:32] <asher^> i love sublime text 2, learn something new every day :)
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  813. # [17:53] <oxy> is there any reference regarding browser inconsistencies of boolean attributes such as checked/selected/required/async etc?
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  816. # [17:57] <adam_lynch> has anyone used responsive design inside an iframe?
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  835. # [18:23] <Jon47> Pomax: vi has a function for that
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  837. # [18:23] <Pomax> vi is not really a text editor, it's more a way of life.
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  839. # [18:23] <Jon47> heh, true
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  848. # [18:28] <irae_> oxy: I don't have a precise link about that, but around the launch of jQuery 1.6 some year or two ago they discussed it extensively on the jquery-devel forum. On the launch i saw some video interviews with john resig that mention the motivation on changing query approach on that. If you don't find any links, searching and looking trough some old discussions may help.
  849. # [18:30] <irae_> Pomax: Textmate 2 has some shortcuts to select depending on syntax and scope, it has shortcuts for selecting on opening and closing "things" (brackets, quotes, etc), blocks, paragraphs, current tag, current method and so on… I saw that on some change log but never memorized the keystrokes
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  1079. # [22:05] <tom[]> where is a good position for atom links relative to the other stuff in https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html ?
  1080. # [22:06] <tom[]> insert before line 17?
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  1105. # [22:35] <tw2113> Talking Heads
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  1112. # [22:42] <zfly9> what's the functionality called where the website is basically one page that scrolls and the top menu follows and highlights the page you're on?
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  1117. # [22:44] <tom[]> zfly9: like the bootstrap-scrollspy.js?
  1118. # [22:44] <ericduran> If anyone is interested, I just finish a HAR viewer that mimics chromes network tab -> http://ericduran.github.com/chromeHAR/
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  1120. # [22:45] <zfly9> tom[ ] yeah
  1121. # [22:45] <zfly9> tom[] any examples of that with dropdown submenus?
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  1124. # [22:48] <tom[]> zfly9: i've no idea. sry
  1125. # [22:48] <tw2113> how would people be able to see it if it's in a dropdown that's not active
  1126. # [22:51] <tom[]> tw2113: you just had to ask, didn't you? :)
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  1128. # [22:51] <tw2113> stop making sense
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  1136. # [22:54] <tom[]> :)
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  1139. # [22:58] <zfly9> well they would select it via the menu like any other site
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  1141. # [22:58] <zfly9> and the parent would be highlighted if they scrolled manually
  1142. # [22:59] <zfly9> you know, like when you're at any other site and you select the submenu, does it stay dropped down while you're at the page? No
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  1147. # [23:04] <paul_irish> jetienne: web page test dot org
  1148. # [23:04] <paul_irish> moo-_-: i havent found a way to detect tel: support. you?
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  1168. # [23:31] <moo-_-> paul_irish: no dice
  1169. # [23:32] <moo-_-> paul_irish: I am afraid we'd need new Javascript API spec or something for this :)
  1170. # [23:32] <moo-_-> paul_irish: so probably going to cook up some ugly user agent hack
  1171. # [23:34] <David_Bradbury> If you guys don't mind, I think I accidentally came across something that might help you in an earlier project I did. I'll see if I can find any information.
  1172. # [23:36] <paul_irish> moo-_-: i suppose it'd be like an API for registerProtocolHandler
  1173. # [23:36] <paul_irish> like
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  1175. # [23:36] <paul_irish> getProtocolHandler('tel:')
  1176. # [23:36] <paul_irish> / [ native code ]
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  1178. # [23:39] <tom[]> where is a good position for atom links relative to the other stuff in https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/index.html ? insert before line 17? does it make any difference?
  1179. # [23:40] <paul_irish> hm
  1180. # [23:41] <paul_irish> tom[]: i would put at the end of the head
  1181. # [23:41] <paul_irish> before </head>
  1182. # [23:41] <paul_irish> its super low priority for the head
  1183. # [23:41] <tom[]> it is
  1184. # [23:41] <paul_irish> outside of head would be technically invalid, though i bet all clients would accept it..
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  1186. # [23:42] <paul_irish> so i'd experiment with above </body>
  1187. # [23:42] <tom[]> make sense. will try it after js file links etc. & before </body>
  1188. # [23:42] <tom[]> tnx
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  1192. # [23:46] <moo-_-> paul_irish: if I'd like to such an API materialize in long term where should I raise an issue about the lack of this crucial functionality?
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