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# [00:08] <Jon47> framework? there are many options (h5bp and Bootstrap are two big ones), but neither is best, as they all do different things
# [00:09] <Jon47> if you want to start a project from scratch but with sensible defaults, h5bp is probably a better choice.. if you want to build a generic looking site with out-of-the-box components, bootstrap might be better
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# [02:10] <ericelliott> I'm with Jon47
# [02:10] <ericelliott> especially if you like hot pink.
# [02:10] <ericelliott> I think it's a very sensible color.
# [02:11] <tw2113> mmm hot pink highlight color
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# [03:57] <deltaoo> I'm looking for a tab solution (like the JQ one) but for JQM
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# [05:05] <zeromodulus> If I am using a jQuery effect to show/hide an element, how should I set its default state? With more jQuery or CSS? e.g. `display: none`.
# [05:06] <gverri> I would go with css
# [05:06] <gverri> Js can take sometime to load
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# [05:07] <gverri> and if it don't load you'll end up with all your hidden elements visible
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# [05:07] <zeromodulus> Ah, I see. Thanks.
# [05:08] <gverri> yw
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# [05:44] <WebDragon> zeromodulus: usually I'll have an additional class added to the elements that contains ONLY display: none; so it's a simple matter of addClass() and removeClass()
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# [05:46] <zeromodulus> WebDragon: interesting.
# [05:47] <zeromodulus> WebDragon: how would you use those with $('el').hover()?
# [05:47] <zeromodulus> that's kind of a silly question I guess, haha.
# [05:48] <WebDragon> hard to hover something thats hidden :D
# [05:48] <WebDragon> that's*
# [05:48] <zeromodulus> I'll fiddle with it. I'm trying just show() and hide() but it doesn't work right.
# [05:48] <WebDragon> now if you're hovering something ELSE and want that element to show.. then it's easy
# [05:48] <zeromodulus> yeah, that's what I'm after.
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# [05:49] <WebDragon> <aside>text <span class="hidden"></aside> $("aside").hover( function () { $(this).find("span").removeClass('hidden');}, ...
# [05:49] <WebDragon> things like that
# [05:50] <WebDragon> 'course I didn't put anything in the span there, but you get the idea
# [05:50] <zeromodulus> I see, thanks!
# [05:51] <zeromodulus> how would I add an effect to it, e.g. slideDown?
# [05:51] <WebDragon> http://delpizzoconstruction.com/ the arrows show up when you hover the large image
# [05:52] <WebDragon> (old site not html5ish, but the concept is clearly illustrated)
# [05:52] <WebDragon> hm apparently I updated it the last time I touched it LOL
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# [05:53] <WebDragon> http://delpizzoconstruction.com/res/java/slidebar2.js has most of the details there
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# [14:25] <me13> anyne here?
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# [16:34] <craig_> Hello, how's it going? There anyone able to offer any help with HTML5 form validation stuffs? I'm having some troubles. I'm using Modernizr to detect the support, and yepnope to load a fallback. My issue is with Safari & Mobile Safari. They both pass the support test, but don't seem to have any functionality in place for it. I'm using (Modernizr.input.required) to test. Thanks in advance for any input!
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# [18:04] <scottydelta> how can i used ocanvas.animate to animate an image from 0,0 to some cordinate and at the same time, its dimension should increase from 0 to 216 by 103?
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# [21:14] <benknight> does anyone know why you have to add content: "" to a psuedo element to "do something" with it?
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# [21:29] * craig Ben, the <br /> tag by default doesn't contain any content by default, as it's only a break, so it's not really meant to be a style-able element to begin with. What're you trying to do with it? Maybe an <hr /> would be better suited?
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# [21:38] <st4rtx> hi all !
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# [21:43] <guest2> hi all. sorry how can i GET "#" instead of "?" ? eg : "amir.html#felan" like ajax
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# [21:48] <paul_irish> https://twitter.com/paul_irish/status/244157063939383296
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# [21:48] <paul_irish> guest2: cant. gotta parse the result afterwards.
# [21:48] <paul_irish> guest2: jQuery.load('url/page.html #id div.omg', fn) // <=== works
# [21:49] <paul_irish> $('.mydiv').load( ... rather
# [21:49] <guest2> thnx very much paul
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# [22:13] <jarek> Hi
# [22:13] <jarek> how do I convert string to arraybuffer?
# [22:14] <jarek> is there a built-in method for that?
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# [22:16] <Sykamore> what language are you in?
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# [22:20] <jarek> CoffeeScript
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# [22:22] <jarek> I just want to play one .wav file, I'm not sure why I have to deal with binary data
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# [23:07] <individual11> are there any reason that HTML5 games haven't dominated web games? I still see so many developers choosing to go Flash.
# [23:08] <tw2113> early stages still? romev5 wasn't built in a day?
# [23:09] <benknight> individual11: game devs want their games to work in more than just Chrome Canary ;)
# [23:09] <individual11> :) true!
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# [23:37] <molodo> hello, any idea about why my page is not displayed ? http://ploc.acampado.net/phpmyaddressbook/demo/
# [23:37] <molodo> nu validator says http://validator.nu/?doc=http%3A%2F%2Fploc.acampado.net%2Fphpmyaddressbook%2Fdemo%2F&schema=http%3A%2F%2Fs.validator.nu%2Fxhtml5.rnc+http%3A%2F%2Fs.validator.nu%2Fhtml5%2Fassertions.sch+http%3A%2F%2Fc.validator.nu%2Fall%2F&parser=xml
# [23:37] <molodo> Fatal Error: Not a name start character, U+21
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# [23:49] <sine`> hi guys and gals. I have been for the past few days playing around with and learning html5/css3. What i want to know is, some of the things behind the html that deal with forms and order email details etc, what is it that processes that, is it ASP ?
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# [23:56] <anigma> what would be the easiest way to change between alternate style sheets? using javascript? or simply just make copies of a page with different sheets and link to them?
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# [23:58] <molodo> anigma: firefox can switch style by using the following menu: display > style
# [23:59] <molodo> anigma: it is the simplest (at least for testing)
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