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  239. # [07:43] <cryptopsy> i have 1.8.2, it seems they are not supported in this version
  240. # [07:43] <cryptopsy> if im not mistake, 1.9.1 ?
  241. # [07:46] <cryptopsy> is gstreamer required for <audio> or is it only for video?
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  514. # [19:36] <welovefree> can someone suggest a good book for newbie in html5?
  515. # [19:39] <mattur> welovefree: http://diveintohtml5.info/
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  518. # [19:43] <welovefree> is html5 a superversion of html?
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  521. # [20:00] <myrman> welovefree: html5 is the latest implementation of html
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  526. # [20:07] <welovefree> it's a free book?
  527. # [20:10] <danielfilho> yes, it is welovefree. you can read it online for free :D
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  529. # [20:10] <myrman> CTRL + U
  530. # [20:10] <myrman> :)
  531. # [20:14] <welovefree> to became a webmaster i should learn ; html, css, javascript, flash in this order?
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  549. # [20:51] <Jon47> is it time to change the 7 here to an 8!?
  550. # [20:51] <Jon47>  <!--[if lt IE 7]>
  551. # [20:51] <Jon47> <p class="chromeframe">You are using an outdated browser. <a href="http://browsehappy.com/">Upgrade your browser today</a> or <a href="http://www.google.com/chromeframe/?redirect=true">install Google Chrome Frame</a> to better experience this site.</p>
  552. # [20:51] <Jon47> <![endif]-->
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  590. # [21:59] <gp> I am trying to use html5 form validation with jquery mobile. I am trying to use the zoltan-dulac html5Forms.js polyfill. I can't seem to get it to work. Does it work with JQM?
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  592. # [22:00] <gp> rather does it work with the way JQM does ajax forms
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  594. # [22:01] <bluesm> Hey.
  595. # [22:02] <bluesm> Why browsers don't implement new types of input ?
  596. # [22:03] <bluesm> I mean for example e-mail (only chrome and firefox support it)
  597. # [22:03] <bluesm> IE - of course suck. But why opera don't implement it?
  598. # [22:03] <bluesm> Or Safari ?
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  600. # [22:04] <bluesm> Because need of new code to check if email was inputed ?
  601. # [22:04] <bluesm> ?
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  603. # [22:05] <tw2113> i'm pretty sure Opera has supported email for awhile
  604. # [22:06] <tw2113> MDN says 10.62
  605. # [22:06] <tw2113> otherwise support for any of it is up to the browser makers to implement
  606. # [22:06] <bluesm> I'm wrong.
  607. # [22:07] <bluesm> But safari don't support it.
  608. # [22:07] <tw2113> that'd be Apple's doing
  609. # [22:07] <tw2113> which i find a bit odd because iOS has good support for it
  610. # [22:08] <tw2113> or maybe that's just the url input type
  611. # [22:08] <tw2113> *shrug*
  612. # [22:10] <bluesm> Maybe I'm again wrong. I'm sorry.
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  614. # [22:10] <tw2113> sorry for what?
  615. # [22:10] <tw2113> asking questions and trying to verify stuff?
  616. # [22:10] <bluesm> For messing up IRC.
  617. # [22:11] <tw2113> no idea how you did that, you're just fine
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  621. # [22:13] <bluesm> tw2113: But date type.
  622. # [22:15] <tw2113> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/input
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  624. # [22:15] <tw2113> what i'm referencing
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  626. # [22:16] <tw2113> potential to be a bit out of date as it's a wiki
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  628. # [22:16] <tw2113> but you'll get a general idea
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  630. # [22:17] <bluesm> http://html5test.com/compare/feature/form-date-element.html
  631. # [22:19] <tw2113> cool, another resource
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  633. # [22:20] <bluesm> date is supposed to show calendar ?
  634. # [22:20] <bluesm> Yes ?
  635. # [22:21] <bluesm> Firefox 14 »No ✘
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  638. # [22:21] <tw2113> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/single-page.html#date-state-%28type=date%29
  639. # [22:24] <tw2113> sadly, different browsers are at different states with different parts of the spec
  640. # [22:24] <gp> Anyone famliar with using a HTML5 form validation polyfill with JQuery Mobile?
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  646. # [22:34] <bluesm> tw2113: It is good reference - http://www.html5tutorial.info/html5-date.php ?
  647. # [22:35] <tw2113> dunno, not too familiar with it
  648. # [22:35] <tw2113> probably the best reference is fire up the browser and test it directly
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  650. # [22:38] <bluesm> tw2113: mhm. Ok. Because You know. w3c is some way useless. If you want check "if this is worth to implement on your website".
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  652. # [22:40] <tw2113> the joys of the inputs, is they fall back to text inputs if not supported
  653. # [22:41] <bluesm> I mean for example "control for setting". I know in this moment that "control for setting" mean "show calendar" in most popular implemantation (because I understand that it can be different with different user interface)
  654. # [22:42] <bluesm> But this is useful (to know how browsers imlement it :)
  655. # [22:42] <bluesm> tw2113: Thank you so much
  656. # [22:43] <bluesm> tw2113: So you don't use any other reference (beside w3c) for fast check how popular browsers implement standards ?
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  658. # [22:43] <tw2113> i use caniuse.com a lot
  659. # [22:43] <tw2113> i linked you to w3c to hopefully show what the date input was supposed to do :P
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  665. # [22:57] <bluesm> tw2113: Ok. Thank you ver very much. Hava nice day. I will use caniuse.com :)
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