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  28. # [00:25] <paul_irish> i've been trying to track conference videos as they come out http://delicious.com/paul.irish/frontend+video
  29. # [00:25] <paul_irish> i dont think people know these shipped.
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  42. # [00:43] <Jayflux> paul_irish how is delicious these days, I stopped using it for a while
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  71. # [01:34] <paul_irish> Jayflux: ITS THE BEST
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  136. # [03:46] <invisib> Hey guys, I'm new to html5. When I'm specifying <nav>, do I just wrap my nav list in that tag? Or what?
  137. # [03:47] <invisib> For instance: http://jsfiddle.net/jmQVb/
  138. # [03:49] <invisib> For that matter, should I do the same with other areas? <footer><div id="footer">My footer</div></footer>
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  140. # [03:53] <tw2113> i'd keep the ul within the nav, but the extra ID in the footer is pointless
  141. # [03:53] <tw2113> nav doesn't replace the ul/ol part
  142. # [03:56] <tw2113> er extra div in the footer
  143. # [03:58] <invisib> Is it okay to style html5 elements then?
  144. # [03:58] <tw2113> yes
  145. # [03:59] <tw2113> you'll need the html5shiv to get old IE to realize it can
  146. # [03:59] <tw2113> just a touch of js
  147. # [03:59] <tw2113> https://code.google.com/p/html5shiv/
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  150. # [04:03] <invisib> What about for users without JS?
  151. # [04:04] <invisib> That's not progressive enhancement good sir!
  152. # [04:04] <tw2113> my personal opinion says they can just suffer
  153. # [04:04] <invisib> I feel ya, but an extra div shouldn't hurt too bad
  154. # [04:04] <tw2113> that's your own decision
  155. # [04:05] <tw2113> but i think it's wasteful extra markup
  156. # [04:05] <invisib> How many ppl are js disabled now anyway?
  157. # [04:05] <tw2113> and i'd give you $5 if you could find someone who legitimately used an old browser like that and had js disabled
  158. # [04:05] <tw2113> anyone who would be using those browsers wouldn't know how to disable it
  159. # [04:06] <tw2113> and anyone who had family suggest they do that, would also have family smart enough not to have them use IE
  160. # [04:06] <invisib> What about the dreaded business cronies?
  161. # [04:06] <tw2113> they can suffer as well
  162. # [04:06] <invisib> The herpderp IT guy who installed IE6 on all the computers and disabled js
  163. # [04:06] <invisib> You make a really convincing argument. :)
  164. # [04:07] <tw2113> chances are they shouldn't be visiting any sites i do, while they're at work
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  166. # [04:07] <tw2113> they can visit my sites once they're at home
  167. # [04:08] <invisib> Alright, I think I understand all of HTML5 now
  168. # [04:08] <invisib> Time to make a WebGL shooter
  169. # [04:08] <tw2113> just a heads up
  170. # [04:08] <tw2113> the html5shiv stuff is just for the semantic tags
  171. # [04:09] <tw2113> webgl will need polyfills from other areas
  172. # [04:09] <tw2113> and there's no way to use js to add support for stuff
  173. # [04:10] <invisib> I know. I was just fucking with ya
  174. # [04:10] <tw2113> just checking
  175. # [04:10] <invisib> (9:36:26 PM) invisib: Hey guys, I'm new to html5...
  176. # [04:10] <invisib> (9:58:23 PM) invisib: Time to make a WebGL shooter
  177. # [04:10] <tw2113> hard to tell sometimes :P
  178. # [04:11] <invisib> :)
  179. # [04:11] <invisib> I think I have a pretty good grasp of the elements though
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  182. # [04:16] <invisib> html5 boilerplate is very good. I'm trying to thoroughly understand what each modification is doing and it's very thorough.
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  449. # [12:47] <moo-_-> interesting http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-coremob/2012Sep/0021.html
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  500. # [15:34] <prishabh> who wanna see something cool ? :)
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  505. # [15:45] <moo-_-> prishabh: in irc metaquestions are pointless
  506. # [15:45] <moo-_-> we either see something cool or not :)
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  510. # [15:50] <prishabh> sorry it just broke, need to investigate ;P
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