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  3. # [00:00] <David_Bradbury> Works fine on Chrome. Firefox on XP, it's missing
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  11. # [00:08] <Pomax> interesting. FF doesn't say why, but IE9 does.
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  13. # [00:14] <Pomax> David_Bradbury: should work now
  14. # [00:14] <Pomax> needed to wait for DOMContentLoaded =)
  15. # [00:15] <David_Bradbury> Pomax: Working great now :)
  16. # [00:15] <Pomax> excellent.
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  49. # [01:16] <jarek> Hi]
  50. # [01:16] <jarek> what is the best way to check the tag name of element?
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  52. # [01:17] <jarek> there is $element.tagName, but it returns either lowercase or uppercase strings depending on namespace
  53. # [01:17] <jarek> not sure about element.localName, is it more consistent?
  54. # [01:22] <imsky> just .toLowerCase that bro
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  57. # [01:26] <jarek> yeah, I was thinking about converting tagName to upper or lower case everywhere
  58. # [01:26] <jarek> but it would look awkward in SVG (e.g. there is 'foreignObject' tag)
  59. # [01:27] <imsky> why do you care about svg
  60. # [01:27] <jarek> because I'm using it everywhere
  61. # [01:28] <jarek> ok, I have an idea
  62. # [01:28] <jarek> I will use toLowerCase only if it is HTML element
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  65. # [01:28] <jarek> for all other elements I will use plain tagName
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  68. # [01:28] <imsky> godspeed soldier
  69. # [01:28] <imsky> i have 1000% faith in you
  70. # [01:28] <jarek> now what is the most optimal way to check if I'm dealing with HTML element?
  71. # [01:29] <jarek> element instanceof HTMLElement?
  72. # [01:29] <imsky> try it
  73. # [01:30] <jarek> it works, but it's ugly
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  75. # [01:31] <imsky> welcome to low level programming
  76. # [01:31] <imsky> when it's ugly, you're doing something fundamental
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  80. # [01:32] <jarek> this is not low level programming :|
  81. # [01:33] <imsky> lol right
  82. # [01:43] <paul_irish> jarek: elem.nodeType == 1
  83. # [01:46] <jarek> paul_irish: this will return true for any elements, including SVG elements
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  85. # [01:49] <paul_irish> oh i didnt understand the question
  86. # [01:50] <jarek> enums in JavaScript are not very elegant anyway...
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  90. # [01:54] <jarek> all HTML elements have "namespaceURI" property set to "http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
  91. # [01:55] <jarek> even though I'm using HTML, not XHTML
  92. # [01:55] <imsky> "this is not low level programming"
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  99. # [02:00] <Pomax> jarek, element.tagName.toLowerCase()
  100. # [02:01] <Pomax> because not even every browser agrees on which case to serve you
  101. # [02:02] <Pomax> since (X)HTML tags only use ascii, there are no strange side-effects related to forcing lower case.
  102. # [02:02] <jarek> Pomax: tagName returns sane values for SVG elements, probably because of XML rules
  103. # [02:02] <Pomax> (unlike true XML, which can completely screw up)
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  135. # [03:11] <grange> hello guys. I have a problem with context2d. I let users draw on a canvas, so I use drawImage() to draw a part of an image to the canvas. and on a second canvas (or on its context2d) I draw an arc, set fillStyle to rgb(myValue, 0, 0) and fill it at the position of the users brush. so far so good. But whenever I draw this arc, strange values appear inside the data array. "myValue" is in the range
  136. # [03:11] <grange> of 10-21, but I have red-values like 8 or 9. Does anyone know what it's about? Thank you!
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  309. # [07:12] <anthony_dev_> hi guys. question: html5 is same html with some little addons, I mean that when I want to make dynamic app (create controls and stuff) I use same js script things right? mapping onclick events with custom functions and creating elements using document.createElement. right?
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  323. # [07:32] <anthony_dev_> grange thanks
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  411. # [10:12] <hemanth> http://cdn.dotcominfoway.com/images/html5-infographics.jpg neat!
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  413. # [10:14] <xec> is CSS really considered "a part of" html5?
  414. # [10:15] <xec> CSS3 is listed as a key feature of html5 on that -.-
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  416. # [10:16] <tantek> marketing
  417. # [10:16] <hemanth> heh heh
  418. # [10:16] <asher^> any of you guys run into this io6 safari ajax caching issue?
  419. # [10:17] <Rydefalk> only installed iOS6 yesterday and haven't bothered looking at it yet :P
  420. # [10:17] <asher^> looks like its going to cause a lot of issues
  421. # [10:17] <asher^> hopefully they roll out a fix asap
  422. # [10:20] <_shorinji_> "asap" and apple usually means weeks if not months :)
  423. # [10:21] <asher^> yeah
  424. # [10:21] <asher^> or they just wont fix it and expect everyone to change their code
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  466. # [11:40] <paul_irish> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/ieblog/2010/Jun/16_IEsCompatibilityFeaturesforSiteDevelopers_1.svg
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  470. # [11:53] <HughAJWood> I got this interview question and I couldn't see a possible answer am I being stupid? http://i45.tinypic.com/2zz4615.png
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  472. # [11:54] <asher^> A
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  474. # [11:54] <HughAJWood> Why is it A?
  475. # [11:54] <asher^> -moz and -webkit correspond to firefox and safari
  476. # [11:55] <asher^> and its 1 column not 2 because its an id selector
  477. # [11:57] <HughAJWood> I think I'm missing something, I answered A anyway but I don't understand because it's an id selector
  478. # [11:57] <asher^> an id only corresponds to 1 element
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  480. # [12:01] <HughAJWood> http://jsfiddle.net/wP3Yp/ can you edit this and show me please
  481. # [12:02] <asher^> im sorry, you are right. i was totally ignoring the fact that it was using columns -_-
  482. # [12:02] <HughAJWood> oh :P
  483. # [12:02] <HughAJWood> so i'm not being stupid?
  484. # [12:02] <asher^> no, i am :p
  485. # [12:02] <asher^> the question doesnt have a correct answer
  486. # [12:04] <HughAJWood> Okay awesome gives me confidence in the other tests I did, there where several ambiguous questions I couldn't see an answer to like that cheers for the sanity check
  487. # [12:05] <asher^> did you tell the people at the time that you didnt think there was a correct answer?
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  489. # [12:07] <HughAJWood> Yeah
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  491. # [12:08] <HughAJWood> I also told them I think they where missing column count from the question or a height on the element or defining if it has an amount of text etc, making the answer ambigious
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  675. # [16:56] <colegatron> hello #html5
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  678. # [16:58] <HughAJWood> Hi
  679. # [16:58] <rupl> hallo
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  687. # [17:01] <colegatron> I have a responsive template for joomla which does not centers the content into the page. I am not sure if there is any rule about responsive design about to not centering the whole content.
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  689. # [17:01] <colegatron> does someone knows if there is or not?
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  693. # [17:06] <colegatron> sorry, I see... it is a problem of jquery masonry. I should check how to modify.
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  892. # [20:40] <Pomax> is there a way to get the list of all element attributes in JS, without getting javascript properties?
  893. # [20:42] <Pomax> or filter for them (i.e., get style, class, etc attributes, but not the .class and .style object properties from JS)
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  897. # [20:47] <locus123> There's a snippet of code... accompanies a tutorial, I requested it open source and the author said why and just basically said it was pointless. I was wondering if anyone felt like recoding it under a liberal license. (BSD, MIT, etc...)
  898. # [20:47] <locus123> He said I can use it, just give credit, but I want the actual thing under a REAL LICENSE, not just "Whatever, have fun."
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  961. # [22:07] <talin_> hellO!
  962. # [22:07] <talin_> someone here made a cool 3d car game. does anyone remember where i can find it?
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  986. # [22:48] <paul_irish> http://blogs.adobe.com/webplatform/2012/09/21/css-custom-filters-now-available-under-flag-in-chrome-canary/
  987. # [22:48] <paul_irish> this is so rad
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  992. # [22:53] <paul_irish> YES
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  994. # [22:53] <David_Bradbury> I really hope Firefox gets on board with this as well
  995. # [22:53] <David_Bradbury> Well, Gecko / Mozilla
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  1030. # [23:46] <Pro9> I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this: but I'm using facelets and for some reason my startpage wont load the css until I refresh the page, perhaps I need to specify something more in web.xml
  1031. # [23:46] <Pro9> this is how it looks now: <welcome-file-list>
  1032. # [23:46] <Pro9> <welcome-file>faces/jsf/products.xhtml</welcome-file>
  1033. # [23:46] <Pro9> </welcome-file-list>
  1034. # [23:46] <moo-_-> Pro9: I suggest you ask your question on stackoverflow.com
  1035. # [23:46] <moo-_-> this channel does not provide any support with backend systems
  1036. # [23:47] <Pro9> moo-_-: ok, thanks anyway :)
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