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171. # [01:00] <ozette> how can I make 2 draggable divs collide with eachoter, so they won't overlap eachoter
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173. # [01:00] <ozette> or how can I at least make them collide with the parent they're in
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185. # [01:04] <moo-_-> ozette: you can write your own Javascript logic to handle dragging
186. # [01:04] <azbyin> hi all..
187. # [01:04] <moo-_-> niggler: no, I just use a server callback which dummily posts back the data
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189. # [01:05] <azbyin> does a fieldset need to always be within a form ?
190. # [01:10] <ozette> isn't there already some intersect check you have heard of?
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192. # [01:11] <ozette> second div is placed above the first one, so I need some kind of z checking.
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239. # [01:32] <niggler> moo-_-: so you have a server request :/
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241. # [01:33] <niggler> that seems … wasteful
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245. # [01:36] <moo-_-> niggler: life sucks, then you die :<
246. # [01:37] <moo-_-> niggler: there is not yet another good way to do it cross-browser compatible manner
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248. # [01:37] <niggler> figures moo-_-
249. # [01:37] <moo-_-> or at least last time I checked 6 months ago
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551. # [08:38] <shadow_fox> hi how can i make a link into div ?
552. # [08:40] <Richhh> you mean how to make a div into a link?
553. # [08:40] <Richhh> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2188272/html-how-to-make-an-entire-div-a-hyperlink
554. # [08:41] <Richhh> using js: <div onclick="location.href='newurl.html';">&nbsp;</div>
555. # [08:41] <Richhh> for new window: <div onclick="window.open('newurl.html','mywindow');" style="cursor: hand;">&nbsp;</div>
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557. # [08:42] <Richhh> if you want to cursor to change to a hand when the mouse hovers over a div:
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560. # [08:42] <Richhh> #divid:hover { style="cursor: hand;" }
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563. # [08:43] <Richhh> #divid:hover { style=cursor: hand; }
564. # [08:44] <Richhh> #divid:hover { cursor: hand; }
565. # [08:44] <Richhh> sorry im tired
566. # [08:44] <Richhh> :(
567. # [08:44] <mr_lou> :->
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573. # [08:45] <Richhh> if you want to underline the div only when the mouse is moved over it: #divid:hover { text-decoration:underline; }
574. # [08:45] <Richhh> shadow_fox did that answer your question?
575. # [08:45] <mr_lou> Careful typing CSS in here. It's dangerous. Certain people don't like it, and they will format your harddrive just to punish you.
576. # [08:45] <Richhh> lol
577. # [08:47] <Richhh> or maybe you mean how can you style links like you style divs? then you can select <a> tags a { }
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581. # [08:51] <Richhh> and #css :)
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589. # [09:04] <shadow_fox> Richhh: sorry was afk.
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591. # [09:04] <shadow_fox> Btw Richhh: thanks it does what it supposed to :-)
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640. # [10:39] <anthony_dev> how I can store array data in webstorage?
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646. # [10:46] <anthony_dev> found answer for my question :] JSON thing
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692. # [11:18] <anthony_dev> guys, is it ok if I making webapp 95% using only JavaScript? I use htm only to mark some basic places ( nav, content, footer). or it is a bad practice?
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725. # [11:50] <dnamialk> is java more accurate than html5 for android geolocalisation ?
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830. # [14:04] <lolzie> Block-level links. Want them to degrade gracefully for old browsers rather than not work at all. Best way?
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932. # [15:56] <caseyd> I'm looking for an example of a touch based office directory, any suggestions
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936. # [15:57] <nOStahl> give me an example of an office directory
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938. # [15:57] <caseyd> Guess we've nailed down the root of the problem. I don't know what I'm looking for :)
939. # [15:58] <nOStahl> glad I could help :P
940. # [15:58] <nOStahl> what are you trying to accomplish
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944. # [16:00] <caseyd> hoping to put something fun/cool looking on a 60" multi-touch screen. Thinking of just slapping this on it with some images from around the campus, http://www.simpleviewer.net/postcardviewer/
945. # [16:00] <nOStahl> ah
946. # [16:01] <nOStahl> what is developed on the campus
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967. # [16:23] <moo-_-> ladies and gentlemen: tune your browser yo do !mdn mozilla development network searches http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/09/25/useful-duckduckgo-searches-for-developers/
968. # [16:23] <moo-_-> works for HTML, Javascript and CSS
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1123. # [19:22] <Justin__> Hey, who here designs professional rock band websites? art and code?
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1130. # [19:25] <David_Bradbury> That's an interesting question
1131. # [19:26] <Justin__> Why? is it not typically asked here?
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1135. # [19:29] <David_Bradbury> Well, I'm just curious what you're looking for. There are designers like that and I've seen them here before. Are you looking to hire someone? Are you looking for tips or advice? Etc...
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1138. # [19:30] <Justin__> I'm looking to hire someone.
1139. # [19:30] <Justin__> But they have to be top notch ;)
1140. # [19:30] * BBonifield_ is now known as BBonifield
1141. # [19:31] <Justin__> we are 4 very successful musicians in our area who started up a new project, and we are gearing up to market ourselves shortly.
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1144. # [19:31] <Justin__> Someone told me to come to IRC Freenode and look, so that's why I am here - I have no idea what I am doing.
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1146. # [19:32] <David_Bradbury> #css-lance may be able to help you more, but you're looking a pretty large price tag just to warn you
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1148. # [19:34] <Justin__> Well obviously if they are not competitive to the quotes we already received, verses the quality
1149. # [19:34] <Justin__> but thanks
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1152. # [19:36] <David_Bradbury> No problem :)
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1182. # [20:14] <David_Bradbury> Looking around before at flexbox, I thought I saw a way to easily vertically align text. Is this still the case?
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1184. # [20:14] <David_Bradbury> (Or was it ever the case?)
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1197. # [20:34] <moo-_-> David_Bradbury: yes, but flexbox is not very widely deployed
1198. # [20:34] <moo-_-> still maturing
1199. # [20:35] <David_Bradbury> Would you happen to know how? I can't seem to find it - It is for an internal tool where everyone will be using the same browser
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1203. # [20:36] <David_Bradbury> @ moo-_-
1204. # [20:37] <moo-_-> caniuse.com/#search=flexbox
1205. # [20:39] <David_Bradbury> Sorry, I meant what would I use to vertically center the text? I've looked through the spec and cannot seem to find it
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1265. # [21:49] <newcode> hey guys, what would be the touch equivalent to jquery mouseenter event?
1266. # [21:50] <moo-_-> newcode: what would such event do?
1267. # [21:51] <newcode> well, I already have a mouseenter event bound to a div, I just want to add a touch event but have never done it
1268. # [21:52] <newcode> so on a touch screen, the action that's triggered by a mouseenter event in a browser, would be triggered when the user actually touches the div on the screen
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1311. # [22:42] <moo-_-> newcode: that is not enter event
1312. # [22:42] <moo-_-> enter event is something when you move mouse
1313. # [22:42] <moo-_-> you do not have touch equivalent because touch events do not have a cursor
1314. # [22:42] <newcode> ok, thx
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1316. # [22:44] <niggler> on the issue of touch
1317. # [22:44] <moo-_-> newcode: touchstart would be the closest
1318. # [22:45] <niggler> is there a way to force it to handle exactly one touch?
1319. # [22:45] <moo-_-> when finger reaches the screen for the first time
1320. # [22:45] <niggler> if someone puts all five fingers on the screen
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1322. # [22:45] <niggler> or 10, god forbd
1323. # [22:45] <moo-_-> niggler: iOS supports this, but Android not
1324. # [22:45] <moo-_-> at least 2.x series
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1326. # [22:45] <niggler> oh what does android o
1327. # [22:45] <moo-_-> niggler: it does not have API for accessing multitouch state
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1329. # [22:46] <moo-_-> it probably reports each touch separately
1330. # [22:46] <niggler> fuck android
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1364. # [23:22] <moo-_-> niggler: just wait five years and your problems are solved with modern today's APIs :)
1365. # [23:22] <niggler> lol
1366. # [23:23] <niggler> freeze myself lol
1367. # [23:23] <niggler> man i can't wait for new south park
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