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# [01:45] <ericelliott> I'm getting excited for HTML5DevConf. Lots of great speakers. =)
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# [03:13] <mcmlxxix> are there any known bugs with window.setInterval() in firefox?
# [03:14] <mcmlxxix> or window.clearInterval(), for that matter
# [03:14] <CoJaBo> like what?
# [03:15] <mcmlxxix> well, im assigning an interval as a property of a sprite im moving around a canvas
# [03:15] <mcmlxxix> and when it hits a certain point, im calling window.clearInterval(sprite.interval);
# [03:15] <mcmlxxix> which works if i do one at a time
# [03:16] <mcmlxxix> but if i attempt to incarnate more than one sprite before the first one reaches its destination, all hell breaks loose
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# [03:19] <mcmlxxix> e.g. the second sprite remains in place (without moving ala the interval function)
# [03:19] <mcmlxxix> and the first one moves into infinity
# [03:20] <mcmlxxix> with its sprite.interval property set to "undefined" (as a result of sprite.interval = window.clearInterval(sprite.interval))
# [03:20] <mcmlxxix> i'm willing to accept that i might be doing something wrong, but i cant find where
# [03:20] <CoJaBo> the interval vars aren't getting mixed up somewhere are they
# [03:20] <acidjazz> you need to seperate the interval returns mcmlxxix
# [03:20] <acidjazz> it sounds like theyre overwriting
# [03:20] <CoJaBo> ^
# [03:21] <mcmlxxix> yeah.. i agree.. just having trouble nailing it down
# [03:21] <mcmlxxix> each sprite is its own object
# [03:21] <acidjazz> i would make it an array
# [03:21] <acidjazz> and push each one
# [03:21] <acidjazz> oh ok
# [03:21] <CoJaBo> pastebin the chief
# [03:21] <CoJaBo> coccyx
# [03:21] <mcmlxxix> and the clear interval is explicitly called on each one with its own interval property
# [03:21] <CoJaBo> code eggs
# [03:21] <CoJaBo> ....
# [03:21] <mcmlxxix> ill pastebin it, but it's not pretty, at the moment
# [03:21] <mcmlxxix> "stream of consciousness" coding :|
# [03:21] <CoJaBo> s sometimes i hate this phone :/
# [03:22] <mcmlxxix> heh
# [03:22] <mcmlxxix> coccyx
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# [03:25] <mcmlxxix> http://pastebin.com/1zrVVMrT
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# [03:26] <mcmlxxix> i'd paste the whole thing but this is pretty evident as the root of the problem, and easier to read this way
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# [03:28] <mcmlxxix> ah
# [03:28] <mcmlxxix> i think i found it :|
# [03:29] <central> i saw a black girl in the elevator today looking at instagram.
# [03:29] <mcmlxxix> did you punch her in the face?
# [03:30] <central> no, but the only way she's ever going to get any actual money to spend on anything that's advertised to her is if that money's given to her
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# [03:30] <CoJaBo> ...
# [03:31] <mcmlxxix> terrible
# [03:31] <central> yeah, kind of a shitty life. i wouldn't want to live like that.
# [03:32] <central> el vomitando
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# [03:32] <mcmlxxix> well, i meant the comments were terrible
# [03:32] <mcmlxxix> but either way
# [03:33] <mcmlxxix> CoJaBo/acidjazz: the problem was in my initialization of the interval
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# [04:19] <Aric> central, how do you know she doesn't have money?
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# [04:23] <central> lesbians are kind of the same way
# [04:24] <central> that's the thing with all these 'groups', they're all flawed and bad for the world
# [04:25] <central> i wish i could explain to you people why its ok for me to say 'black girl', but when i do, everyone acts like children
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# [04:25] <central> NAH NAH, NAH NAH, YOU CANT SAY THAT
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# [04:27] <central> i saw a black girl, aric, on instigram. i thought it was funny.
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# [05:01] <Aric> central, was just wondering why you pointed out the black girl part
# [05:02] <Aric> im not offended at all
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# [05:03] <Aric> stereotypes exist from two sources... some are exaggerations which misrepresent but have some truth or a source to them... while others are completely accurate to at least a decent segment of the said demographic
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# [05:04] <Aric> branding Muslims as terrorists when 1/4 or 1/5 people in the world are that is a vast exaggeration, but it is based off the fact there are some Muslim terrorists... saying Asians like rice accurately describes the food preferences of a large segment of Asians while understanding you will probably meet Asians who hate rice
# [05:04] <Aric> But I was curious what about the black girl made you jump on that association
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# [05:07] <Aric> i don't think i'm the type to act like a child on the subject, but it's about midnight and job has me oncall for bug while i wait for a system admin to call me back to solve his half of this problem
# [05:08] <Aric> so i would like to satisfy my curiosity while im forced to stay up while family wishes i was with them instead :P
# [05:08] <Aric> they're all sleeping now and this channel is boring so im gonna head off to other ones :P
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# [15:46] <daleharvey> so, if anyone uses emacs it has this awesome thing for lisp where you can highlight an expression and press C-c C-e and it evaluates it
# [15:46] <daleharvey> anyone know if the same sort of thing exists for in browser javascript?
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# [17:23] <miChou> howdy html wizards!
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# [17:23] <miChou> asher^: don't you go there! :P
# [17:23] <miChou> is this the right place to ask for advice on choosing an MV* JavaScript framework (or not choosing one at all)? :)
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# [17:25] <Garbee> Crap, I left my wand at home.
# [17:25] <benbulb> anyone able to offer some advice about the ant build script from the boilerplate?
# [17:25] <benbulb> using it in a wordpress theme but having some difficulties
# [17:26] <Garbee> miChou, I would try #javascript tbh.
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# [17:26] <Garbee> That is what they do. Although I'm sure some people in here have used them.
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# [17:29] <xec> miChou: have you seen this?
# [17:29] <xec> https://github.com/addyosmani/todomvc
# [17:30] <xec> basically a todo app build with different frameworks, to let you compare
# [17:30] <xec> built*
# [17:30] <miChou> xec that's where I started from, but it's a little overwhelming :)
# [17:30] <miChou> Garbee: thanks for the hint
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# [17:33] <xec> love the tutorials, makes it really easy to get started
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# [18:50] <quiliro> hello, is there a way to brighten and remove brightness on certain elements of an svg so they would appear as heartbeats?
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# [18:51] <moo-_-> quiliro: by the rhythm of the music?
# [18:52] <moo-_-> or just pulsing on the stable frequency?
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# [18:58] <quiliro> interesting! didn't think of that...but no, just as normal synchronous heartbeats
# [18:59] <quiliro> at the same rate all the time
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# [18:59] <quiliro> moo-_-: how is this animation passible?
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# [18:59] <quiliro> s/passible/possible/
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# [19:00] <moo-_-> quiliro: I have no experience in SVG, but I have done it on CSS
# [19:00] <moo-_-> quiliro: if there is no other way I'd animate it on Javascript
# [19:00] <moo-_-> quiliro: but I'd look for generic SVG animation tutorials first
# [19:00] <moo-_-> it is possible, but can't tell how
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# [19:01] <quiliro> moo-_-: thks foir the tips
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# [19:02] <quiliro> how is it don in css? will it woirk for an embedded svg?
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# [19:06] <moo-_-> quiliro: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/Using_CSS_animations
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# [19:07] <quiliro> i have some dots (rect) and lines and an image.... i need to make the dots pulse on one area and the pulsation to expand from a center outward.....the points that are closer to the center pulse first then the farther ones along with the closest ones and finally all sr them pulse (including the nearest, de farther and the farthest)
# [19:07] <quiliro> thanks moo-_- .... will check iit out
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# [19:39] <David_Bradbury> Apologize for the cross-post from ##javascript - So getting a 3D transformation of an element in JavaScript returns a 3D matrix. Would anyone off the top of their head know a resource that either already has something that would convert it to X, Y, and Z rotations, or knows a resource that could show me how to calculate it myself?
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# [21:07] <bemson> is there a semantic tag for the legend of my chart?
# [21:07] <bemson> I thought to use figure and fig caption, but not sure which tag to use when listing the keys/colors of the chart?
# [21:07] <bemson> any advice welcome
# [21:08] <Garbee> <legend>
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# [21:09] <Garbee> Or is that for forms only? ...Let me go check.
# [21:09] <bemson> Garbee: but when listing the keys of the legend?
# [21:09] <bemson> Garbee: legend if for field sets only - afaik
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# [21:09] <Garbee> Yea, only for forms.
# [21:10] <bemson> I'm wondering what listing element I can use - I could use a DL but in that case, the DD inside would be the color of the key
# [21:10] <Garbee> No semantics that I know for it. I think you could technically use an aside there.
# [21:10] <bemson> semantically, it makes sense
# [21:10] <Garbee> That sounds solid to me.
# [21:10] <bemson> Garbee: yeah, that'll do :-)
# [21:10] <bemson> Garbee: thx for the sounding board!
# [21:11] <Garbee> Yea, I'd do an aside with a dl inside of that.
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# [21:11] <Garbee> Although, after reading an article on netmagazine about HTML5 "semantics" I'm not too sure about using them so much.
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# [21:23] <bemson> Garbee: just noticed your message… duly noted regarding DL's.
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# [21:24] <Garbee> What is noted?
# [21:25] <Garbee> DL is tried and true, it is <aside> I am worried about a bit. Read : http://www.netmagazine.com/features/truth-about-structuring-html5-page for why.
# [21:26] <bemson> Garbee: I meant the phrase "duly noted" - as in, I have taken note of what you've said
# [21:26] <Garbee> Oh, I thought you were noting something about the "semantics".
# [21:26] <bemson> :-p
# [21:27] <Garbee> Either way, I'm still kinda confused. So I think I should shutup now before it gets any worse.
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# [21:27] <Garbee> I'm just having some issues with a new thing I'm trying. So English isn't my friend right now.
# [21:28] <bemson> Garbee: no problem - btw, all of this semantic crap is frustrating. Can't tell if it's worth it yet either. I don't take it too seriously, outside of trying to make my own sense of things
# [21:29] <Garbee> bemson, *READ* the article I linked to when you get the chance then.
# [21:29] <Garbee> It is well worth the time.
# [21:29] <bemson> Garbee: doing that now :-)
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# [21:49] <bemson> Garbee: wow, half way through that article and I'm blown away
# [21:50] <Garbee> Yup.
# [21:50] <bemson> Garbee: great stuff, I'll make to share this with my network
# [21:50] <Garbee> I'm getting the book hoping my mind will be even more blown.
# [21:50] <bemson> Garbee: unfortunately, I gotta get to work - I'll be sure to read the rest later
# [21:50] <bemson> Garbee: thx again
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# [22:07] <moo-_-> any idea were to pitch a start up closely related to HTML5 technologies?
# [22:09] <David_Bradbury> Craigslist ;)
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