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  105. # [01:35] <kayvebear> Hi all, I was told this is a good place to ask web design questions... I am jumping into word press for the first time
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  107. # [01:36] <kayvebear> So I am thinking about buying a theme off theme forest ... my first question is, do I only get to use the theme I pay for on one site? Or can I use that theme over and over again on different domains down the road
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  111. # [01:37] <Jon47> this is a good place to ask web design questions, but I don't think that particular sort of question will get much traction
  112. # [01:37] <kayvebear> ahh... not a word press friendly channel?
  113. # [01:38] <Jon47> hehe, no it's not that
  114. # [01:38] <zettam> oh wow
  115. # [01:38] <zettam> mrdoob is a god
  116. # [01:38] <Jon47> it's just that your question is very specific regarding the terms of use of a particular site
  117. # [01:38] <tw2113> the themeforest question would be best for themeforest support
  118. # [01:38] <Jon47> this channel is more for general sorts of questions
  119. # [01:39] <tw2113> plus the license should tell you limits
  120. # [01:39] <zettam> I love that sort of devs... Can you guys recommend me another nice portfolio like mrdoob's ?
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  122. # [01:39] <kayvebear> gotcha - thanks jon
  123. # [01:40] <kayvebear> If I create my word press site on one host, is moving it to another host as simple as just downloading all the files from current host and uploading to new?
  124. # [01:40] <Jon47> and updating the database, i believe
  125. # [01:41] <Jon47> but again.. wordpress is bit of software
  126. # [01:41] <Jon47> this channel is for the web as a platform
  127. # [01:41] <tw2113> kayvebear, #wordpress would be a good spot for probably most of your questions
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  135. # [01:49] <zettam> I'm completely new to html5, coming from flash background
  136. # [01:49] <zettam> (used it since flash 4)
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  138. # [01:50] <zettam> I now want to dive into html5, but I don't even know the environment that's used to build html based websites
  139. # [01:50] <zettam> I'm needing some information at this point, from anyone
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  141. # [01:51] <sashah> zettam: what do you mean by environment? you somehow must generate files like .html, .css, .js, .png and organize them in directories. you can test them locally with browsers. what is the question?
  142. # [01:52] <tw2113> text editors
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  148. # [01:55] <kayvebear> thanks guys
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  449. # [09:47] <martisj> is there a semantically nice way of structuring this: http://i.imgur.com/KdgUl.png
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  454. # [09:52] <ariestiyansyah> html5 ?
  455. # [09:53] <martisj> yeah
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  457. # [09:53] <ariestiyansyah> do you have good html5 design ??
  458. # [09:53] <ariestiyansyah> resource like a web
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  460. # [09:57] <martisj> what?
  461. # [09:57] <martisj> resource like a web?
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  504. # [11:01] <jessica_> why google is not opening when i click the html button - <button class="submit" name="submitbuttonname" value="submitbuttonvalue" action="http://google.com">Submit </button>
  505. # [11:01] <jessica_> please help me
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  507. # [11:05] <jessica_> any1 there ????
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  511. # [11:11] <jessica_> people please help me
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  513. # [11:15] <mstalfoort> jessica_, action is not a valid attribute on the button, it should be on the form where the button is a child of
  514. # [11:15] <jessica_> i just got it
  515. # [11:16] <jessica_> is this ok ?
  516. # [11:16] <jessica_> <form name="newcontact" id="form" action="http://funiks.com/invoice/phonebook/submit_new_contact.php" method="post" autocomplete="off">
  517. # [11:16] <jessica_> now how will this trigger when i'll click on submit button ? <button class="submit" name="submitbuttonname" value="submitbuttonvalue">Submit </button>
  518. # [11:18] <mstalfoort> if a submit button is a child of a form element and this form element has an action with a url, then clicking on the submit would trigger to POST action to the specified url
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  520. # [11:19] <mstalfoort> it;s standard browser behaviour
  521. # [11:20] <mstalfoort> you can test it here: http://jsfiddle.net/mstalfoort/nCxyv/
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  534. # [11:46] <jessica_> mstalfoort, my form has an action, but i think my button is not the child, how do i make my button a chiled here ?
  535. # [11:47] <mstalfoort> jessica_, did you see the test link, if not, have a look here http://jsfiddle.net/mstalfoort/nCxyv/
  536. # [11:47] <jessica_> yep, its not working
  537. # [11:47] <mstalfoort> what isnt working?
  538. # [11:48] <jessica_> http://pastebin.com/ik0ZhSWT
  539. # [11:48] <jessica_> this is my html code, i want it should post when submit button is clicked
  540. # [11:49] <jessica_> see line no. 121
  541. # [11:49] <jessica_> and the button at 141
  542. # [11:50] <mstalfoort> jessica_, you have quite some plugins there
  543. # [11:51] <jessica_> i know, ignore them ;)
  544. # [11:51] <jessica_> i just want my form to work with the click on submit
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  546. # [11:51] <mstalfoort> most likely one of the js files is handling form submission, based on what i see here its hard for me to pinpoint what the problem really is
  547. # [11:52] <jessica_> kk
  548. # [11:52] <mstalfoort> have you tried without all the js?
  549. # [11:52] <jessica_> nopes
  550. # [11:52] <jessica_> how do i debug ?
  551. # [11:53] <mstalfoort> is this part of a complete phonegap application?
  552. # [11:53] <mstalfoort> remove all the <script lines
  553. # [11:54] <mstalfoort> jessica_, on line 141: please add type="submit"
  554. # [11:54] <jessica_> kk
  555. # [11:54] <mstalfoort> and test it again
  556. # [11:55] <jessica_> kk give me 2 mins
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  563. # [12:06] <jessica_> mstalfoort, this is my php script , is this ok ?
  564. # [12:06] <jessica_> http://pastebin.com/WQ8973Xi
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  567. # [12:09] <mstalfoort> jessica_, did you manage to get the form submitting based on adding the type="submit"?
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  569. # [12:09] <jessica_> i added type="submit" , its not saving
  570. # [12:10] <mstalfoort> ..and did you test by removing all je <script lines?
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  572. # [12:10] <mstalfoort> s/je/the
  573. # [12:11] <jessica_> lemme tyr it
  574. # [12:13] <jessica_> kk after commenting js it worked and it opened php page and says "fail", here is my php code- http://pastebin.com/WQ8973Xi
  575. # [12:15] <mstalfoort> the php code needs some reworking
  576. # [12:15] <jessica_> while line ?
  577. # [12:16] <mstalfoort> ...at least you know now its one of the JS files, so i would try one at the time to put it back in the page to find out which files is causing the form to not be submitted
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  579. # [12:16] <mstalfoort> jessica_, lines 5 and 6
  580. # [12:16] <jessica_> i got ur point, i'll do like that
  581. # [12:17] <mstalfoort> brb
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  583. # [12:17] <jessica_> kk, please lemme know whats wrong in it
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  585. # [12:19] <jessica_> hey it worked
  586. # [12:20] <jessica_> now only 1 thing, after saving it opens php page, i want it to be at the same page
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  609. # [12:48] <jessica__> hiii, i have a simple 2 fields in my html form and i post data to php, when i press the submit button, the php page opens, i want the same page to be opened after pressing the button and i dont want the entire page to be reloaded,
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  612. # [12:50] <mstalfoort> jessica__, then you make it into an Ajax request
  613. # [12:50] <jessica__> you mean i should change that form part, right ?
  614. # [12:52] <mstalfoort> jessica__, the form can be as it is now, but you have to manually add some javascript so when the submit event fires (by pressing the submit button e.g.) it will post the form data via an Ajax call to you php file
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  616. # [12:53] <jessica__> kk mstalfoort, i am getting you, incase there is any example of my need, please point it to me
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  618. # [12:54] <mstalfoort> jessica__, have a look here e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1200266/submit-a-form-using-jquery
  619. # [12:54] <mstalfoort> or this one http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/javascript-ajax/submit-a-form-without-page-refresh-using-jquery/ jessica__
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  630. # [13:09] <Silent> Hey all :)
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  760. # [16:31] <asher^> paul_irish, just saw your web application workflow talk from html5dc. fanastic as always
  761. # [16:32] <paul_irish> oh word!
  762. # [16:32] <paul_irish> thx dude
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  765. # [16:33] <asher^> for anyone that hasnt caught it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDbbz-BdyYc its a must watch
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  773. # [16:44] <shahin8r> Whats is the recommendation about using multi-column in CSS3 for a client project?
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  785. # [16:58] <jessica_> and this is my php code
  786. # [16:58] <jessica_> http://pastebin.com/t6tNsR5p
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  822. # [17:19] <Teal`c> jessica_: what error do you get? at least it looks like the button will post the form even without js code because you don't prevent the default action. and you really should sanitize the input on the php code before inserting it into the database
  823. # [17:20] <jessica_> i am trying something new from an example..get back in 2 minutes, i hope it works this time
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  826. # [17:21] <Teal`c> ok
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  836. # [17:32] <jessica_> Teal`c, i am very close but it didnt worked links- http://jsfiddle.net/FCDX9/4/ , http://pastebin.com/d3DHj3EJ
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  842. # [17:37] <jessica_> Teal`c, u there ?
  843. # [17:37] <Teal`c> yup
  844. # [17:37] <jessica_> kk
  845. # [17:39] <jessica_> i dont know why in jsfiddle, html section is showing this on the top - });//]]> and why its not saving..
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  847. # [17:40] <xec_> Teal`c: i keep reading your messages in Christopher Judge's voice and adding "indeed" behind
  848. # [17:40] <Teal`c> xec_: :D I
  849. # [17:40] <Teal`c> oops
  850. # [17:40] <Teal`c> I was just wondering if I should have answered "indeed" instead of yup
  851. # [17:41] <xec_> hehehe... indeed
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  853. # [17:43] <jessica_> Teal`c, can you guide me whats going wrong in there
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  856. # [17:44] <Teal`c> jessica_: try first removing all markup you don't need. just leave the form
  857. # [17:45] <jessica_> did you find anything wrong in the js file ?
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  861. # [17:46] <jessica_> what kind of markups ?
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  867. # [17:51] <Teal`c> your fiddle is full of <script> tags and other stuff that makes it more complicated to debug, but you also probably have cross-domain issue there so it won't work
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  870. # [17:55] <mstalfoort> have a look at this one jessica_ http://jsfiddle.net/mstalfoort/gYhyW/1/
  871. # [17:55] <mstalfoort> this is what Teal`c is saying
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  874. # [17:56] <Teal`c> mstalfoort: indeed
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  902. # [18:19] <jessica_> mstalfoort, if i try to use the same thing with my html page, its not saving
  903. # [18:19] <jessica_> reason dont know
  904. # [18:19] <jessica_> but if i save with ur html page, its saving
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  913. # [18:22] <jessica_> i am calling the js file, but its posting directly , like after pressing save, its going to the php page
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  983. # [19:25] <Pomax> what was that new web resource site hosting all manner of handy dandy html5 information with the hope that MDN could go back to moz specific etc? (I am describing this all wrong, but my brain isn't cooperating)
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  986. # [19:32] <eightbit_> html5rocks?
  987. # [19:33] <JonathanNeal> it does
  988. # [19:34] <ericduran> Pomax: www.webplatform.org
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  991. # [19:38] <jessica_> i am really depressed , can some1 help me
  992. # [19:39] <ericduran> jessica_: you can ask the question we'll try
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  996. # [19:41] <jessica_> html code- http://pastebin.com/fAdScDeJ , php code- http://pastebin.com/nABpL71x
  997. # [19:41] <jessica_> its inserting blank entries in the table, whats wrong with my js code
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  1004. # [19:46] <David_Bradbury> First issue I see is you sharing the database password and hard coding it - The second is your doctype - Third is your use of inline styles. =/ Let's see...
  1005. # [19:47] <ericduran> As to why your values aren't coming to the Php you should probably use do serialize on the form data before posting it
  1006. # [19:48] <ericduran> but also have David_Bradbury mention, but those are probably not going to be the reason why the values are being passed in incorrectly
  1007. # [19:48] <ericduran> jessica_: ^^
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  1009. # [19:49] <David_Bradbury> Also, you should be passing your data as a key/value pair (an object) - jQuery will serialize it
  1010. # [19:49] <David_Bradbury> Also, make sure you validate your data
  1011. # [19:51] <ericduran> Also I would change from $('.submit').click() to $('form').submit()
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  1018. # [20:00] <Pomax> ericduran: bingo, thanks
  1019. # [20:00] <ericduran> Pomax: cool
  1020. # [20:00] <ericduran> Pomax: it was hard to guess based of your description lol
  1021. # [20:01] <Pomax> heh
  1022. # [20:01] <Pomax> I know
  1023. # [20:01] <Pomax> I could have probably added "it's not html5rocks or mdn" and it wouldn't have helped much
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  1026. # [20:04] <jessica_> sorry was out of my seat
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  1161. # [22:22] <Pomax> is there a way in chrome dev tools to turn a console.log(obj) result into a queriable var?
  1162. # [22:23] <Pomax> see javascript object on console, right click, "assign to var: ...", except then existent, rather than hopeful fantasy? =)
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  1169. # [22:35] <quiliro> html5 will make skype unnecessary?
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  1174. # [22:39] <David_Bradbury> Pomax: I don't know of any, but in Canary, $_ will return the most recently evaluated result, so you can do something like var foo = $_ and then play with that
  1175. # [22:39] <tw2113> probably won't quiliro
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  1180. # [22:41] <David_Bradbury> You may be able to get VoIP working with Web Workers or something like that, but I don't think it makes sense to do that.
  1181. # [22:41] <quiliro> tw2113: html5 won't make skype unnecessary or skype will not be necessary when using html5?
  1182. # [22:41] <David_Bradbury> First one
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  1184. # [22:43] <quiliro> David_Bradbury: so it is not possible to do the same things with web workers as can be done with skype?
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  1191. # [22:44] <quiliro> someone said webrtc and html5 will make it needless to use skype
  1192. # [22:45] <David_Bradbury> It isn't impossible, but HTML5 and Web Workers are just specs and technologies. They can't inherently replace Skype.
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  1194. # [22:45] <David_Bradbury> Maybe theoretically.
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  1196. # [22:46] <David_Bradbury> I currently don't see anybody doing it, and they'd have to get not only a userbase large enough to make it worth switching, but they'll need to do something better than Skype does.
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  1203. # [22:48] <quiliro> true David_Bradbury ....found this http://bloggeek.me/webrtc-voip/
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  1205. # [22:50] <David_Bradbury> It looks nice - We'll just need to see if people actually use it. :)
  1206. # [22:51] <quiliro> yep!
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