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  152. # [03:19] <zettam> Hey, channel
  153. # [03:19] <zettam> I would love to know where to start developing canvas-based experiments
  154. # [03:19] <zettam> I'm in love with them, I don't know what's being used to create that amazing stuff
  155. # [03:20] <zettam> I was in love with flash, and the whole creation process took place in the flash itself
  156. # [03:20] <tw2113> javascript
  157. # [03:20] <zettam> but what's the case for html5 ?
  158. # [03:20] <tw2113> canvas tag
  159. # [03:20] <zettam> tw2113: so, there is no tool or software for that ? all by text editor ?
  160. # [03:20] <tw2113> couldn't tell ya on tools/software
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  163. # [03:20] <tw2113> i think most people would end up hand coding anyway
  164. # [03:21] <zettam> oh some websites are sooo pretty designed
  165. # [03:21] <zettam> I mean, how is it possible with code
  166. # [03:21] <zettam> I mean -code only-
  167. # [03:21] <zettam> I believe there should be a way of placing them etc. I mean, doing some part of the "design" itself
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  170. # [03:25] <obert-> zettam: everything is coding
  171. # [03:26] <obert-> flash/actionscript too
  172. # [03:27] <obert-> the frontend most common langs combo i think it is HTML CSS JS / JQuery
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  180. # [03:56] <zettam> obert-: thanks
  181. # [03:56] <zettam> well what are the limits of CSS
  182. # [03:56] <zettam> I mean, I'm totally new to the whole concept of html
  183. # [03:57] <zettam> Where can I start digging
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  193. # [04:12] <zettam> What editor you guys use on windows?
  194. # [04:12] <zettam> for html development
  195. # [04:12] <eightbit> Notepad ++
  196. # [04:12] <zettam> hm thats all?
  197. # [04:13] <eightbit> yep
  198. # [04:13] <eightbit> for me, at least
  199. # [04:13] <zettam> fo verything ? I mean, html, java, css, etc?
  200. # [04:13] <eightbit> JavaScript, yep
  201. # [04:14] <eightbit> and HTML and CSS
  202. # [04:14] <zettam> wow. I really do need a starting point
  203. # [04:14] <zettam> I'm completely lost as coming from flash
  204. # [04:14] <eightbit> but not Java, if I ever use Java (which I won't), I'd use eclipse or Netbeans
  205. # [04:14] <eightbit> hmm
  206. # [04:15] <zettam> Currently I don't evenget the concept of HTML
  207. # [04:15] <eightbit> there does need to be a nice tool to use like flash, but for canvas development
  208. # [04:15] <zettam> it looks really complicated
  209. # [04:15] <eightbit> HTML is easy, it's not a programming language
  210. # [04:15] <eightbit> it's a Markup Language
  211. # [04:15] <zettam> yeah but when they all ad up
  212. # [04:15] <zettam> with canvas and webgl and javascript
  213. # [04:15] <eightbit> huh?
  214. # [04:15] <zettam> it becomes complicated
  215. # [04:15] <eightbit> it can be
  216. # [04:15] <eightbit> just write your stuff neatly
  217. # [04:16] <zettam> like... check this guy's website -- http://soulwire.co.uk
  218. # [04:16] <zettam> for me it's amazing
  219. # [04:16] <eightbit> I'm actually making a raycaster right now using Canvas
  220. # [04:16] <zettam> oh, any WIP to show ? I would love to see it
  221. # [04:16] <eightbit> that's pretty danged good
  222. # [04:17] <zettam> Yes I agree !
  223. # [04:17] <eightbit> Yeah, it changes a bit, having someone help me with a sprite rendering issue
  224. # [04:17] <eightbit> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/22130787/webgames/Xmas2012/index.htm
  225. # [04:17] <zettam> and without any software to design, creating these things should ve a painfull process
  226. # [04:17] <zettam> with only text
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  228. # [04:17] <eightbit> making something like a flash animation would be hard
  229. # [04:18] <zettam> eightbit: this look nice by the way !
  230. # [04:18] <eightbit> Thanks
  231. # [04:18] <eightbit> texturemapping was a pain
  232. # [04:19] <zettam> I'm sure it was
  233. # [04:20] <zettam> it reminded me the web version of wolfenstein
  234. # [04:20] <zettam> eightbit: check this too http://cinema-series.orange.fr/evenement/universeries/en/
  235. # [04:21] <eightbit> neat
  236. # [04:21] <zettam> yes but the question is
  237. # [04:21] <zettam> how is this possible without any design tool
  238. # [04:21] <eightbit> usually the nifty new js libs include tools like boilerplates
  239. # [04:21] <eightbit> like three.js comes with a boilerplate that you write code and you see what it makes
  240. # [04:21] <zettam> hmm
  241. # [04:22] <zettam> three.js of mrdoob ?
  242. # [04:22] <zettam> or is that something else you mean
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  247. # [04:25] <eightbit> yeah, mrdoob
  248. # [04:26] <zettam> or... like this one http://www.raffaelstueken.de
  249. # [04:26] <zettam> how are these possible without any creation environment
  250. # [04:26] <eightbit> it's possible, but hard
  251. # [04:26] <eightbit> use the threejs boilerplate, makes things easier
  252. # [04:30] <zettam> I need to learn javascript first :(
  253. # [04:30] <zettam> and html5 and css3 I believe
  254. # [04:30] <zettam> Do you know any good place to start digging for tha stuff
  255. # [04:30] <eightbit> JavaScript is much like actionscript
  256. # [04:30] <zettam> *that
  257. # [04:30] <eightbit> uhh
  258. # [04:30] <eightbit> I use google
  259. # [04:31] <eightbit> I also found this recently: http://www.html5canvastutorials.com
  260. # [04:31] <zettam> Ah as I can get from this
  261. # [04:31] <zettam> canvas is whole another deal
  262. # [04:31] <zettam> right ?
  263. # [04:31] <zettam> I mean, when to decide what to use --- canvas vs Dom ?
  264. # [04:32] <tw2113> yeah, canvas isn't the same as the dom
  265. # [04:33] <eightbit> Canvas is something you can draw to, like a paper or something
  266. # [04:33] <eightbit> as an alternative to flash
  267. # [04:33] <zettam> well think of an avatar-chat website
  268. # [04:33] <zettam> where people log in with their avatars and chat (with chat-bubbles)
  269. # [04:33] <zettam> what would be better for somethin like that ? Canvas or Dom ?
  270. # [04:34] <zettam> I know that canvas is good for direct pixel manipulation however I don't know what would be better for a situation like that
  271. # [04:34] <zettam> I mean, where is the limitation for picking the dom or the canvas, what makes the developers decide about it ?
  272. # [04:34] <tw2113> what is your goal?
  273. # [04:34] <tw2113> finding a replacement for flash?
  274. # [04:35] <zettam> No,
  275. # [04:35] <tw2113> creating a website?
  276. # [04:35] <eightbit> depends
  277. # [04:35] <zettam> I'm not trying to replace anything with anything else
  278. # [04:35] <zettam> I just want to learn the concepts of HTML5 design before everything
  279. # [04:35] <eightbit> if you want something like IRC, then DOM would be easier
  280. # [04:35] <zettam> no, not like irc
  281. # [04:35] <eightbit> If you want something like IMVU(blech), then Canvas
  282. # [04:35] <zettam> something that works with chat bubbles
  283. # [04:35] <eightbit> canvas
  284. # [04:36] <zettam> for everything ? even rendering the text too ?
  285. # [04:36] <zettam> lets say, 100 people are talking at the same time
  286. # [04:36] <zettam> I know that canvas is better if you have more elements
  287. # [04:36] <zettam> but I also hear that using text within canvas is a pain-in-the-arse
  288. # [04:37] <tw2113> i have zero experience with canvas, but if what you just said is true, i'd just use regular markup somehow with this chat idea
  289. # [04:37] <zettam> Hmm I see
  290. # [04:37] <zettam> maybe it's just about experimentation
  291. # [04:37] <zettam> I'm just trying to find the best point to start
  292. # [04:38] <zettam> in terms of.. "start digging"
  293. # [04:38] <tw2113> canvas is just a part of the overall spec
  294. # [04:38] <eightbit> yeah
  295. # [04:38] <tw2113> most of html4 is still valid
  296. # [04:38] <eightbit> its an element
  297. # [04:38] <eightbit> <canvas> </canvas>
  298. # [04:38] <zettam> With zero experience and almost zero knowledge on all three branches (HTML, JS, CSS3) it looks complex to me
  299. # [04:38] <tw2113> which would be all DOM
  300. # [04:38] <tw2113> we never said it was simple
  301. # [04:38] <eightbit> just use that website
  302. # [04:38] <tw2113> we just said it was a componant
  303. # [04:38] <zettam> yes yes, I know it's not simple
  304. # [04:39] <zettam> but I think the starting point is important too
  305. # [04:39] <zettam> For example, javascript
  306. # [04:39] <zettam> I don't know where to start js for html5
  307. # [04:39] <tw2113> if you're looking for a starting point, i don't think focusing just on something like canvas would be the best place to start
  308. # [04:39] <zettam> it's an old thing, so searching for "js tutorials" makes no sense
  309. # [04:39] <tw2113> old but valid
  310. # [04:40] <eightbit> codeacademy
  311. # [04:40] <eightbit> great js tutorials
  312. # [04:41] <zettam> I'll dig that, thanks!
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  320. # [04:49] <zettam> eightbit: codeacademy is great, thanks !
  321. # [04:49] <eightbit> no prob
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  347. # [05:17] <zettam> How do you guys debug when coding with JS ?
  348. # [05:17] <zettam> How do you see mistakes, or get instant results on what you create
  349. # [05:17] <zettam> notepad++ only seems like a pain
  350. # [05:17] <zettam> I thought there could be other tools
  351. # [05:17] <eightbit> console.log();
  352. # [05:17] <eightbit> in your code, edit in a console.log(variable or string);
  353. # [05:18] <zettam> eightbit: and rund the html file everytime
  354. # [05:18] <zettam> to see if js is working?
  355. # [05:18] <zettam> *run
  356. # [05:18] <eightbit> in your browser
  357. # [05:18] <eightbit> and open up the debugger
  358. # [05:19] <eightbit> in chrome, it's ctrl + shift + J
  359. # [05:19] <asher^> or F12
  360. # [05:19] <asher^> for console
  361. # [05:20] <zettam> oh
  362. # [05:20] <zettam> I see
  363. # [05:20] <zettam> one another question
  364. # [05:20] <zettam> I've enabled auto-complete for notepad++ but... well
  365. # [05:20] <zettam> it does not show the correct markup
  366. # [05:20] <zettam> or auto complete the js I'm wtiring
  367. # [05:21] <zettam> i mean, it does.. But for example when I start typing "console" the word "console" is noteven there
  368. # [05:21] <zettam> it's like.. it's trying to complete whole another language
  369. # [05:21] <zettam> not js
  370. # [05:21] <eightbit> keep the HTML and js separate
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  374. # [05:21] <zettam> eightbit: yes that's what I'm doing
  375. # [05:22] <zettam> this is a new js file
  376. # [05:22] <eightbit> go to language > J > JavaScript
  377. # [05:22] <zettam> its picked as well
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  380. # [05:23] <zettam> plus it does not put correct tabbing spacing etc
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  383. # [05:25] <zettam> eightbit: does it normally do the spacing itself ?
  384. # [05:25] <zettam> like... tabs etc. when if / else is placed, etc. ?
  385. # [05:25] <eightbit> no
  386. # [05:25] <zettam> Hmmm
  387. # [05:25] <eightbit> wait
  388. # [05:26] <eightbit> if you hit enter after a tabbed indent, yes
  389. # [05:26] <eightbit> otherwise, no
  390. # [05:26] <zettam> well
  391. # [05:26] <zettam> I thought it would be like codeacademy's editor
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  394. # [05:26] <zettam> like auto-create indents when -lets say- an "if" is placed
  395. # [05:26] <zettam> or auto close braces when it's opened
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  397. # [05:27] <eightbit> you don't need that
  398. # [05:27] <eightbit> unless you have short, stubby fingers
  399. # [05:27] <zettam> why ? it's fast for typing
  400. # [05:27] <eightbit> and can't reach tab
  401. # [05:27] <zettam> haha
  402. # [05:27] <eightbit> I'm a touch-typer
  403. # [05:28] <eightbit> I can type pretty quick as it is
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  465. # [07:06] <zettam> Guys, where can I write html/jss/css3 and sort of see what I'm doing ?
  466. # [07:06] <zettam> sort of what happens on the code player (http://thecodeplayer.com/)
  467. # [07:07] <zettam> For me it's a great way to write code, but since I'm new to the whole concept I dont know what tool of development can do that
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  471. # [07:10] <zettam> for example, adobe edge ?
  472. # [07:10] <zettam> edge code, edge animate, etc
  473. # [07:10] <zettam> ?
  474. # [07:10] <zettam> any ideas, channel ?
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  492. # [07:36] <zettam> Anyone using adobe edge code ?
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  495. # [07:46] <mike5w3c> zettam: you might find some people over on #brackets
  496. # [07:46] <mike5w3c> if you don't find any here
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  498. # [07:47] <mike5w3c> US people are busy right now celebrating the re-election of their prime minister
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  500. # [07:47] <mike5w3c> so there are fewer people around
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  696. # [12:48] <jessica_> need a small help, any1 here
  697. # [12:49] <jessica_> http://jsfiddle.net/h5gH6/ , data is not getting populated in the drop down from mysql, but see this link, its coming here- http://funiks.com/invoice/phonebook/dropdown-ajax/get-list.php?getlist=contactname
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  702. # [12:52] <jessica_> any1 there to help ?
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  713. # [13:01] <jessica_> any 1 there to help, please reply back
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  722. # [13:05] <Moo^_^> jessica_: hi jessica. If anyone doesn't have time to help you there is no point to repeat the questin
  723. # [13:05] <Moo^_^> jessica_: instead, try some other forum like stackoverflow.com
  724. # [13:05] <zettam> Hello channel -
  725. # [13:05] <jessica_> kk
  726. # [13:06] <zettam> I have a vey simple question about the "editor" pick
  727. # [13:06] <jessica_> i am sorry
  728. # [13:06] <zettam> What should I use for the holy HTML, CSS, JS trinity - when creating websites
  729. # [13:06] <zettam> I'm hearing a lot about adobe codeedge recenly
  730. # [13:06] <zettam> but I was just unsure.
  731. # [13:06] <Moo^_^> zettam: sublime text 2 is pretty popular
  732. # [13:06] <zettam> Moo^_^: does it have any sort of WYSIWYG
  733. # [13:06] <Moo^_^> no
  734. # [13:07] <Moo^_^> WYSIWYG is not very popular among developers
  735. # [13:07] <zettam> hmm
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  737. # [13:07] <zettam> so refresh save dance continues on ?
  738. # [13:08] <Moo^_^> zettam: you can automatize the process quite a bit with sublime depending on your workflow
  739. # [13:08] <Moo^_^> so that save will automatically refresh in the browser
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  741. # [13:08] <Moo^_^> called live reload, I believe
  742. # [13:08] <zettam> Ah I see ---
  743. # [13:08] <zettam> one another thing---
  744. # [13:08] <zettam> does sublime have auto-complete features
  745. # [13:09] <zettam> or auto-indent etc.
  746. # [13:09] <Moo^_^> zettam: very good ones
  747. # [13:09] <Moo^_^> especially for CSS
  748. # [13:09] <zettam> Sounds great, and fair
  749. # [13:09] <Moo^_^> zettam: here http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/05/11/sublime-text-2-tips-for-python-and-web-developers/
  750. # [13:09] <zettam> I'll check it now :)
  751. # [13:09] <Moo^_^> (disclaimer: my writing)
  752. # [13:09] <zettam> thank you Moo^_^, I'll read it now too :)
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  754. # [13:10] <zettam> Thank you for the wise guidance :) WEB is too big to get simple answers like this
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  757. # [13:12] <Moo^_^> zettam: people are opinionated about the text editors, so you'll sure get different answer. But Sublime Text 2 is pretty popular among both front- and backend developers
  758. # [13:12] <zettam> Thanks!
  759. # [13:12] <zettam> Actually I felt like Notepad++ ws good to go with
  760. # [13:12] <Moo^_^> just installing sublimelinter and getting on type error checking increases your productivity quite a lot
  761. # [13:12] <zettam> however, after seeing this website (http://thecodeplayer.com/walkthrough/make-gauge-charts-using-canvas-and-javascript) -- I became unsure
  762. # [13:13] <zettam> jus check it -- (press play at the bottom)
  763. # [13:13] <zettam> as the dev makes the changes, they can bee seen at the right
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  765. # [13:13] <zettam> I mean, that's a great system, but.. I don't know if there are any editos like this
  766. # [13:14] <Moo^_^> http://cloud9ide.com is browser based
  767. # [13:14] <zettam> oh ! Checking.
  768. # [13:14] <Moo^_^> but live reload is not anything special and you can accomplish the functionality with any editor and proper configuration
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  780. # [13:18] <adaline> another vote for sublime here
  781. # [13:18] <adaline> keep discovering new tricks with it everyday
  782. # [13:19] <adaline> also as per live preview in the editor, there is Light Table
  783. # [13:19] <adaline> but as i remember its only for clojure
  784. # [13:20] <adaline> http://www.chris-granger.com/2012/11/05/meet-the-new-light-table/
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  786. # [13:28] <zettam> Oh
  787. # [13:28] <zettam> adeline: this is great as well
  788. # [13:28] <zettam> I mean - the look and feel is amazing
  789. # [13:29] <adaline> yeah it does look great
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  791. # [13:30] <adaline> the tabs on top like in chrome is a great idea
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  794. # [13:32] <zettam> But I guess you were right,
  795. # [13:32] <zettam> it's not for javascript
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  797. # [13:36] <adaline> too true, there are browser based ones i have seen
  798. # [13:36] <adaline> used alot for demos
  799. # [13:37] <zettam> hmm
  800. # [13:37] <zettam> is that a good way of working ?
  801. # [13:37] <zettam> I mean... something browser basd ?
  802. # [13:37] <adaline> maybe on something small
  803. # [13:38] <zettam> Can you recommend some browser based ones to me ?
  804. # [13:38] <adaline> i imagine a big project will get out of hand very fast
  805. # [13:38] <adaline> http://jsfiddle.net/
  806. # [13:39] <adaline> i think there is another one but i cant remember what its called
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  905. # [15:03] <zettam> is there any way to embed youtube videos in html5 canvas
  906. # [15:03] <zettam> as a part of canvas
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  915. # [15:08] <zettam> since the "video" tag takes actual video
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  917. # [15:08] <zettam> I was not sure about how this can be possible
  918. # [15:08] <zettam> to add the youtube video into my canvas --
  919. # [15:08] <zettam> Any ideas on this one ?
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  932. # [15:16] <Moo^_^> zettam: yes
  933. # [15:16] <Moo^_^> you can use <video> as drawImage() source for <canvas>, CORS issues aside
  934. # [15:16] <zettam> Moo^_^: can you give me some direction on this
  935. # [15:16] <zettam> Hmm, but the thing is youtube videos are not "video" tagged
  936. # [15:16] <zettam> it's object
  937. # [15:16] <awkm> dont think you can add a video into canvas. it's just for graphics
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  939. # [15:17] <Moo^_^> zettam: then you make it <video> tag
  940. # [15:17] <Moo^_^> zettam: youtube provides h264 stream src for you
  941. # [15:17] <zettam> Moo^_^: video tag needs a video extension file if I'm not wrong
  942. # [15:17] <Moo^_^> zettam: I am not sure if it is officially supported or not
  943. # [15:17] <Moo^_^> zettam: but otherwise mobile youtube would not work
  944. # [15:17] <zettam> yes you're right --
  945. # [15:17] <zettam> but the thing is --- how will I get that stream directly from the youtube adress
  946. # [15:18] <zettam> I only have a youtube address and a blank canvas
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  948. # [15:18] <Moo^_^> zettam: I suggest you ask this question on stackoverflow.com as problem is not specific to HTML5 domain per se
  949. # [15:18] <zettam> What I want to do is - to get the video into my canvas
  950. # [15:18] <zettam> ok
  951. # [15:18] <Moo^_^> zettam: it is or is not officially supported
  952. # [15:18] <Moo^_^> only google knows
  953. # [15:18] <zettam> :)
  954. # [15:18] <zettam> ok I need to ask it to stackoverflow then -
  955. # [15:18] <zettam> cheers
  956. # [15:19] <Moo^_^> zettam: I suggest you search for existing answers first
  957. # [15:19] <Moo^_^> this is not exactly the first time someone faces an issue like this
  958. # [15:19] <zettam> I did -
  959. # [15:19] <zettam> couldnt find an answer that I can understand, ot that's approved of working
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  961. # [15:20] <zettam> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8402457/how-to-get-direct-url-for-youtube-videos --- this one is like a possible answer to my question
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  982. # [15:42] <lduros> hi there, has anyone been able to use the FileSystem API to upload a local file (with input type file) into the local storage and make it readable to some javascript in a Chrome extension?
  983. # [15:43] <lduros> hmm looks like it's possible reading the filesystem api page on html5rocks.com, I'll give it a shot
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  997. # [16:07] <zettam> What's the best way to animate multiple objects in the canvas
  998. # [16:07] <zettam> multiple = many (hundreds, etc)
  999. # [16:07] <zettam> jquery seems so slow performing these operations
  1000. # [16:08] <zettam> so I thought there could be another workaround
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  1020. # [16:38] <Moo^_^> zettam: raw javascript
  1021. # [16:38] <Moo^_^> http://vanilla-js.com/
  1022. # [16:39] <Moo^_^> zettam: if you can post your animation code to jsfiddle.net we can give it a shot how to make it faster
  1023. # [16:39] <Moo^_^> (vanilla-js.com is a joke)
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  1027. # [16:42] <xec_> Moo^_^: lol, i love that it tries to calculate the size of vanilla js based on the feature checkboxes
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  1033. # [16:45] <Benvie> check this out. I made an ES6 virtual machine that runs in IE8+ http://benvie.github.com/continuum/
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  1038. # [16:54] <aJacom> IE10 is going to compatibility mode constantly, and displaying just a blank page. I've validated it and there's only some alt="" elements missing. And fb's xlms declaration, and removing it doesn't stop the problem.... help?
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  1078. # [17:51] <zettam> Moo^_^: oh I jsut saw the messages
  1079. # [17:51] <zettam> sorry ofr the late reply
  1080. # [17:51] <zettam> :) vanillajs, joke ?
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  1084. # [17:52] <zettam> Actually I'm having problems with the basic stuff, I jsut discovered that.
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  1086. # [17:52] <zettam> Currently my first mission is to move a canvas object to the exact position of the mouse (just like a second cursor)
  1087. # [17:52] <zettam> I can't accomplish that
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  1200. # [20:25] <CoJaBo> Can someone ban noone4?
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  1206. # [20:41] <cgcardona> CoJaBo: for the private message requests?
  1207. # [20:41] <cgcardona> i got a bunch yesterday but none so far today.
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  1210. # [20:48] <paul_irish> nobody has op in here
  1211. # [20:48] <paul_irish> after numerous attempts of asking freenode for ownership
  1212. # [20:48] <paul_irish> i got nuthin
  1213. # [20:48] <paul_irish> best we can do is head to #freenode and ask for their help booting troublemakers
  1214. # [20:48] <paul_irish> cc CoJaBo cgcardona
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  1216. # [20:49] <cgcardona> paul_irish: confirmed on that.
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  1255. # [21:46] <superware> can someone please help me try www.resizenow.com in IE9?
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  1260. # [21:54] <Ins|de> superware, no one uses IE anymore.. ;P joking.
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  1262. # [21:54] <superware> you?
  1263. # [21:54] <Ins|de> im not on windows, can't help u
  1264. # [21:55] <superware> mac?
  1265. # [21:55] <Ins|de> linux
  1266. # [21:55] <superware> ff?
  1267. # [21:55] <Ins|de> i got it here
  1268. # [21:55] <Ins|de> want me to check that?
  1269. # [21:55] <superware> sure, thanks!
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  1272. # [21:57] <Ins|de> superware, so.. what's the problem?
  1273. # [21:57] <superware> people say they experience issues with it..
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  1275. # [21:59] <superware> I've just upgraded all server and client-side components
  1276. # [22:00] <Ins|de> superware, it did work for me on FF
  1277. # [22:00] <superware> great, thanks
  1278. # [22:00] <Itrace> Has anybody ever worked with the HTML5 video tag for embedding a M3U8 video segmented list? I can't get it to work and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong.
  1279. # [22:01] <zettam> I also would love to learn if there is a way of getting youtube video rendered within canvas
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  1283. # [22:02] <superware> zettam: besides positioning an iframe over the canvas?
  1284. # [22:02] <zettam> superware: yes, I want it to be rendered with the canvas
  1285. # [22:03] <zettam> so that I'll be able to apply pixel-effects to the video
  1286. # [22:03] <zettam> in real time
  1287. # [22:03] <zettam> It seemed quite easy at first but the problem is: for me it's impossible to reach the video file from youtube
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  1289. # [22:04] <zettam> I don't really get how that stuff works, the token and session, etc.
  1290. # [22:04] <zettam> But then I'm asking to myself: if there are 3rd party mobile apps that can play youtube video with their own interface (and there are!)
  1291. # [22:04] <zettam> there HAS TO be a way of reaching the video only
  1292. # [22:05] <zettam> Any ideas on this ?
  1293. # [22:05] <superware> how is <video> related to <canvas>?
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  1295. # [22:06] <zettam> you can put video into canvas
  1296. # [22:06] <zettam> just like an image
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  1298. # [22:08] <superware> how?
  1299. # [22:09] <zettam> http://www.craftymind.com/factory/html5video/CanvasVideo.html check this
  1300. # [22:10] <zettam> superware:
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  1306. # [22:13] <superware> nice
  1307. # [22:13] <zettam> yes, it is!
  1308. # [22:13] <zettam> Well I'm trying to reach the youtube videos
  1309. # [22:13] <zettam> for making the effect streaming
  1310. # [22:14] <zettam> But well, right now it's impossible to me,
  1311. # [22:14] <zettam> Any ideas?
  1312. # [22:15] <superware> not really
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  1320. # [22:27] <gavacho> more of a css question i guess: my <body>'s content doesn't have enought height to fill the viewport
  1321. # [22:27] <gavacho> but i want it to
  1322. # [22:27] <gavacho> i could give an element min-height: 1000px
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  1324. # [22:27] <gavacho> but is there a better/more elegant way?
  1325. # [22:28] <superware> height: 100% ?
  1326. # [22:29] <superware> html { background-color: #333; }
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  1403. # [23:24] <tyoc213> so I have "headers" at the left per rows
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