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  143. # [02:51] <loquax> please, what is the most appropriate? should I put input tag outside/inside label tag? <label>Name:</label><input type="text"> OR <label>Name:<input type="text"></label>
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  259. # [06:16] <iToast> HTML5.
  260. # [06:16] <iToast> Isn't alot of HTML5 based on the javascript engiens.
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  280. # [06:46] <MrSassyPants> Heys. My eclipse doesn't know most html5 elements, so I'm asking if there's a recommendation on an IDE for html5/js/php/python/perl
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  282. # [06:48] <asher^> sublime text 2
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  284. # [06:52] <iToast> MrSassyPants, np++
  285. # [06:52] <iToast> notepad++
  286. # [06:52] <MrSassyPants> iToast that's not really an ide is it?
  287. # [06:52] <asher^> st2 will change your life :)
  288. # [06:52] <iToast> MrSassyPants, it's not really
  289. # [06:52] <MrSassyPants> asher^, it looks like some nifty shit
  290. # [06:52] <iToast> but it reconizes quite a bit of the syntax and functions
  291. # [06:53] <iToast> asher^,
  292. # [06:53] <asher^> its amazing, if you try it out, check out http://net.tutsplus.com/articles/news/perfect-workflow-in-sublime-text-free-course/?search_index=2 for a good intro to it
  293. # [06:53] <iToast> sublime isn't free...
  294. # [06:53] <iToast> Sublime text is $59 looks like it's built on bluej
  295. # [06:53] <iToast> and combined with notepad++
  296. # [06:53] <asher^> you can use it free, and youll be more than happy to pay the $59
  297. # [06:54] <iToast> "Sublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use."
  298. # [06:55] <MrSassyPants> asher^, yeah I'd much rather want a free one :p It's for school and html5, they don't even offer an IDE because html5 isn't codified and the decision to teach it instead of flash was only done this year so the teachers don't really know either
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  300. # [06:55] <asher^> you can use it for free
  301. # [06:55] <iToast> MrSassyPants,
  302. # [06:55] <MrSassyPants> for a limited time
  303. # [06:55] <iToast> get notepad++
  304. # [06:56] <asher^> no time limit
  305. # [06:56] <MrSassyPants> iToast, I have notepad++
  306. # [06:56] <iToast> sublimetext 2 looks like crap....
  307. # [06:56] <MrSassyPants> I like notepad++
  308. # [06:56] <MrSassyPants> iToast, it looks nifty
  309. # [06:56] <iToast> MrSassyPants, language->html5
  310. # [06:56] <iToast> html*
  311. # [06:56] <iToast> well, language->h->html
  312. # [06:56] <MrSassyPants> iToast, I'm looking for something with loads of support for elements, especially in the js area
  313. # [06:57] <asher^> just try sublime
  314. # [06:57] <iToast> MrSassyPants, Notepad++
  315. # [06:57] <iToast> asher^, you sound like you are a developer of sublime.
  316. # [06:57] <MrSassyPants> asher^, and then it'll stop function before the end of the module :p
  317. # [06:57] <iToast> it's a overrated IDE.
  318. # [06:57] <MrSassyPants> functioning*
  319. # [06:57] <asher^> MrSassyPants, as ive already said, no it wont
  320. # [06:57] <iToast> Don't suggest non free IDE's...
  321. # [06:57] <MrSassyPants> sry just got up
  322. # [06:57] <iToast> "Sublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use."
  323. # [06:57] <iToast> That's quoted from the site.
  324. # [06:58] <MrSassyPants> iToast, suggesting non-free ides is totally fine
  325. # [06:58] <MrSassyPants> iToast, as a general rule
  326. # [06:58] <asher^> anyway, gl with it
  327. # [06:58] <iToast> MrSassyPants, it's fine, but it's not great.
  328. # [06:58] <MrSassyPants> iToast, like, if you have to develop for .net you're going to need visual studio
  329. # [06:58] <iToast> MrSassyPants, you can use notepad++
  330. # [06:58] <iToast> xD
  331. # [06:58] <MrSassyPants> alright.
  332. # [06:59] <iToast> Name a language
  333. # [06:59] <iToast> np++ probably supports it
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  336. # [06:59] <iToast> asher^,
  337. # [07:00] <iToast> I see nothing that great in sublime, its like notepad++, eclipse, and bluejay combined into one application and sold a rediculus price.
  338. # [07:00] <MrSassyPants> iToast, but does it give me all the methods on a canvas-context object?
  339. # [07:00] <MrSassyPants> iToast, 59$ isn't really ridiculous
  340. # [07:00] <iToast> it is considering it has nothing uniuqe
  341. # [07:01] <iToast> also, It should support the canvas object
  342. # [07:01] <iToast> Make sure you have all the updates.
  343. # [07:01] <MrSassyPants> notepad++ isn't available for linux
  344. # [07:02] <iToast> MrSassyPants, GEdit
  345. # [07:02] <iToast> VGim, Emacs
  346. # [07:02] <MrSassyPants> gvim?
  347. # [07:02] <MrSassyPants> I know gvim
  348. # [07:02] <iToast> http://grigio.org/pimp_my_gedit_was_textmate_linux
  349. # [07:02] <MrSassyPants> gvim doesn't even know what autocompletion is
  350. # [07:02] <iToast> look at GEdit
  351. # [07:03] <MrSassyPants> I'm looking for an IDE, not a text editor :p
  352. # [07:03] <iToast> technically
  353. # [07:03] <iToast> it is a ide when setup
  354. # [07:03] <rking> MrSassyPants: What are you expecting from autocompletion?
  355. # [07:03] <iToast> rking, simplicity?
  356. # [07:04] <MrSassyPants> rking, quick reference sheet on stuff
  357. # [07:04] <iToast> it's like suggestions in eclipse
  358. # [07:04] <iToast> A stupid developer won't use suggestiosn and autocomplete, a smart one will, a efficient one will sue them and the official docs.
  359. # [07:05] <MrSassyPants> it's like a reference sheet right where you need it - no alt-tabbing, breaking the flow and all that.
  360. # [07:05] <rking> http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Omni_completion ?
  361. # [07:07] <rking> iToast: You can only get so much from the signature, though.
  362. # [07:07] <iToast> rking, true
  363. # [07:08] <rking> The semantics of what happens to the arguments and how it makes the return value are often key, so I end up just building tags files then jumping to source, or using other tools to get the source itself.
  364. # [07:08] <rking> And I'm a non-fan of positional parameters. Long lists are not great (keyword args FTW)
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  374. # [07:38] <aksnot> i want to make websites for free.any jobs?if no="where can i get payless jobs?"
  375. # [07:38] <aksnot> thanks
  376. # [07:39] <populvuh> elance.com
  377. # [07:39] <populvuh> bif $0
  378. # [07:39] <populvuh> *bid
  379. # [07:41] <aksnot> populvuh,thanks man.
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  606. # [13:18] <technojas> GOOD FRIDAY PEOPLE!!!!!
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  613. # [13:21] <xec_> MERRY FRIDAY AND A HAPPY NEW WEEKEND
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  616. # [13:22] <Moo^_^> technojas: Sorry, HTML5 doesn't have a weekday API yet :<
  617. # [13:22] <Moo^_^> and CAPS LOCK DAY was two weeks ago :<
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