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  49. # [01:21] <jarek> Hi
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  51. # [01:21] <jarek> what is the best way to sanitize HTML markup before inserting it into DOM?
  52. # [01:22] <jarek> I would like to make sure that there are no scripts attached, e.g. via <script> tag or onsomeevent attributes
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  261. # [10:48] <chid> hi are there any IDEs
  262. # [10:48] <chid> that can easily edit html moving between tag
  263. # [10:48] <chid> tags, say pressing tab goes to the next attribute
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  327. # [13:29] <Serus> hello
  328. # [13:29] <Serus> Does anyone know a smartphone emulator?
  329. # [13:30] <Serus> so I can view webpages like if they are on a smartphone
  330. # [13:31] <Serus> that way I don't have to buy one to make a phone compatible website
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  332. # [13:33] <Moo^_^> Serus: yes
  333. # [13:33] <Moo^_^> Serus: here http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/01/09/mobilizing-websites-with-responsive-design-and-html5-tutorial/
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  335. # [13:38] <Serus> thanks
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  337. # [13:39] <chid> hey what's the best offline HTML/CSS/JS documentation
  338. # [13:39] <chid> preferably searchable
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  341. # [13:41] <Moo^_^> chid: you are asking a lot
  342. # [13:41] <Moo^_^> chid: the spec?
  343. # [13:41] <chid> well where I can learn about what functions/tags to
  344. # [13:42] <chid> pretty much the spec but has anyone organized it in a nice searachable manner?
  345. # [13:42] <chid> yeah I'm asking a lot (I thought someone might've made something comprehensive)
  346. # [13:42] <Moo^_^> diveintohtml5 is available as offlien version AFAIK
  347. # [13:43] <chid> DocHub.io!
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  349. # [13:43] <chid> that looks awesome
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  351. # [13:45] <chid> can I ask you another question Moo^_^ in PM :)
  352. # [13:45] <chid> well I'll ask it here, do people here use IDEs for developing websites?
  353. # [13:46] <Serus> I use eclipse
  354. # [13:46] <Moo^_^> chid: no private messages, please
  355. # [13:46] <Serus> with aptana plugin
  356. # [13:46] <Moo^_^> chid: sublime text 2 is a popular also
  357. # [13:46] <chid> sure, okay :D
  358. # [13:46] <chid> yeah I'm using sublime text too
  359. # [13:46] <Moo^_^> more lightweight option
  360. # [13:46] <chid> I find selection annoying
  361. # [13:46] <Serus> arguebly better then dreamweaver, and free :D
  362. # [13:47] <Moo^_^> chid: http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/05/11/sublime-text-2-tips-for-python-and-web-developers/
  363. # [13:47] <chid> Thanks Moo^_^!
  364. # [13:47] <chid> That sounds awesome
  365. # [13:47] <chid> thanks Serus
  366. # [13:47] <Serus> http://www.eclipse.org/
  367. # [13:47] <chid> and open source!!
  368. # [13:48] <chid> what do you use Moo^_^ ?
  369. # [13:48] <Serus> http://www.aptana.com/downloads/start
  370. # [13:48] <Serus> select the plugin version from there
  371. # [13:49] <chid> Serus: what's a good getting started guide for Aptana?
  372. # [13:49] <Moo^_^> chid: sublime text 2
  373. # [13:49] <chid> Moo^_^: zencoding is awesome I think =)
  374. # [13:50] <chid> should be included in that list
  375. # [13:50] <Serus> does it have uhm
  376. # [13:50] <Serus> intellisense? :P
  377. # [13:51] <Moo^_^> Serus: code intel
  378. # [13:51] <Moo^_^> but it works little differently from eclipse
  379. # [13:51] <Serus> ok
  380. # [13:51] <Serus> never used it :P
  381. # [13:51] <Serus> and I won't I guess
  382. # [13:51] <Serus> happy with eclipse
  383. # [13:52] <chid> I've only ever used eclipes for java, it was very good for that :p
  384. # [13:52] <chid> didn't realise it would be for HTML
  385. # [13:53] <Moo^_^> chid: eclipse itself is not good for web dev
  386. # [13:53] <Moo^_^> you need a set of plugins like Apatana
  387. # [13:53] <Moo^_^> Aptana
  388. # [13:53] <chid> yup I see :)
  389. # [13:54] <chid> I'm curious, how do people deal with doing selection in HTML (I just find it a pain to move to the mouse all the time)
  390. # [13:54] <Moo^_^> there must be a shortcut "select this div" in sublime? :P
  391. # [13:54] <chid> so say I have <a href='long url' class='one two three'>
  392. # [13:54] <Moo^_^> chid: but a good question
  393. # [13:54] <chid> and I want to remove the class two, and replace the longurl
  394. # [13:55] <chid> on vim I would /' dT'
  395. # [13:55] <Moo^_^> chid: you have vim mode in sublime. have you used it?
  396. # [13:55] <chid> nah I haven't :)
  397. # [13:55] <chid> I think I'll turn it on
  398. # [13:56] <chid> Anyway thanks for your help Moo^_^ and Serus very uesful
  399. # [13:56] <Moo^_^> chid: np
  400. # [13:57] <chid> an aside do you ever use the shortcut alt+shift+w? (it encloses something with tags)
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  406. # [14:17] <malydok> zencoding is outdated, emmet is the new version for sublime text 2
  407. # [14:17] <malydok> and it's simply awesome
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  410. # [14:17] <malydok> header>ul>li*5>a[href="#"]
  411. # [14:17] <malydok> cant beat that
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  415. # [14:19] <malydok> I highly recommend this video tutorial on ST2, they themselves promote: https://tutsplus.com/course/improve-workflow-in-sublime-text-2/
  416. # [14:21] <chid> Thanks malydok
  417. # [14:21] <chid> Never heart of that plugin, thanks for letting me know
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  419. # [14:22] <malydok> Take the time to watch the video course, you will learn a lot of useful stuff
  420. # [14:22] <malydok> I just watched it yesterday and I feel like a better person already
  421. # [14:22] <malydok> : D
  422. # [14:22] <chid> AWesome
  423. # [14:23] <malydok> the LiveReload plugin is by all means awesome as well
  424. # [14:23] <chid> yeah i'm using that, it's great :D
  425. # [14:23] <chid> but it reloads for every filetype for some reason not just html/css/js
  426. # [14:24] <malydok> that a hindrance?
  427. # [14:24] <chid> nah not really :)
  428. # [14:28] <Moo^_^> chid: Serus: than's for Emmet pointer, I included it here http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/05/11/sublime-text-2-tips-for-python-and-web-developers/
  429. # [14:28] <Moo^_^> looks very promising
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  431. # [14:32] <chid> hey malydok
  432. # [14:32] <chid> how does it work? 00:14 < malydok> header>ul>li*5>a[href="#"]
  433. # [14:32] <malydok> generating html code
  434. # [14:32] <malydok> you type that and press Tab
  435. # [14:32] <malydok> go ahead and try it
  436. # [14:32] <chid> all of it?
  437. # [14:32] <chid> it didn't work
  438. # [14:32] <chid> oh it did
  439. # [14:33] <chid> I was using control+space
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  441. # [14:33] <malydok> and your pointer has to be at the end of that command
  442. # [14:33] <chid> thakns!
  443. # [14:34] <chid> so suppose I fill in one of the <anchors> how can I simple switch to the next anchor's one?
  444. # [14:35] <chid> I'm not sure if that makes sense, so I have <a>I'm done(CURSOR HERE)</a><a>(WANT TO MOVE HERE)</a>
  445. # [14:35] <chid> Or is this a job for the mouse? =P
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  447. # [14:38] <Moo^_^> chid: btw sublime texts multi cursor edt reduces the need to use CSS abbreviation generation
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  449. # [14:38] <Moo^_^> that's what I have been using before
  450. # [14:38] <chid> yeah I've seen that it's very efficient :D
  451. # [14:38] <malydok> Tab
  452. # [14:38] <malydok> use Tab
  453. # [14:39] <chid> Oh you're right
  454. # [14:39] <chid> thanks
  455. # [14:39] <chid> works great.
  456. # [14:39] <malydok> https://tutsplus.com/lesson/your-first-snippet/
  457. # [14:39] <malydok> check this out
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  459. # [14:40] <chid> ah okies
  460. # [14:40] <chid> the thing is when you go back to it after you can't use the tab thing right
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  703. # [22:32] <cgcardona> oops I don't have my bot in this room >_<
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  751. # [23:42] <grantgalitz> Silence in #html5? Hell has frozen over.
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  759. # [23:49] <grantgalitz> Tis true
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