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# [01:33] <bartell> Anyone familiar with Canvas? I'm trying to figure out how to convert a circle into a straight line. (Basically convert a round chart percent complete chart into a bar/line progress bar)
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# [01:34] <OzDave_mbp> say your data is 3 out of ten that is 30% of the length or 30% of the radius
# [01:35] <OzDave_mbp> find percentage and translate to the graphics length
# [01:36] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.williammalone.com/articles/html5-canvas-javascript-bar-graph/
# [01:39] <bartell> Hm. Not sure if I understand that. This is the graph I'm using: http://rendro.github.com/easy-pie-chart/ I basically just need to make those two circles lines.
# [01:39] <OzDave_mbp> so the first one is 55% say your bar graph is 100 pixels you might translate it to 55 pixels
# [01:40] <OzDave_mbp> 200 pixels of a graph at 55% is 110 pixels
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# [01:46] <bartell> Okay. So I guess I just need to set a width and height rather then drawing a path..?
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# [01:46] <OzDave_mbp> You might want two for each element, the background which shows the length in total and the next one on top which demonstrates the data
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# [01:47] <OzDave_mbp> [ ======== ]
# [01:47] <bartell> Right.
# [01:47] <OzDave_mbp> visual ascii lol
# [01:47] <bartell> haha
# [01:47] <bartell> It works!
# [01:47] <OzDave_mbp> lol
# [01:48] <bartell> This is going to be more difficult that I thought... It'd be cool to be able to just straighten out the circle. haha.
# [01:48] <OzDave_mbp> follow that tute above
# [01:49] <OzDave_mbp> http://www.html5laboratory.com/creating-a-bar-chart-with-canvas.php or this
# [01:50] <OzDave_mbp> btw click the brown background and use your arrow keys :P http://blog.nihilogic.dk/2009/02/html5-canvas-cheat-sheet.html
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# [01:52] <bartell> OzDave_mbp: Thanks for the help by the way!
# [01:52] <OzDave_mbp> np
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# [01:53] <OzDave_mbp> time for some coffee bbl
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# [03:12] <randomdev> hm
# [03:12] <randomdev> I dont suppose anyone knows a program that will allow me to specify some html tags and will strip them from some pasted text? (like this http://www.zubrag.com/tools/html-tags-stripper.php but the opposite so i dont have to specify every tag I want to allow)
# [03:13] <OzDave_mbp> most good editors can work in a source or pure text method
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# [03:15] <randomdev> I dont know any that will allow me to specify for example <span> and <font> and will strip anything that matches along with closing tags? e.g. <span style="color:#ff0000">blah</span>
# [03:15] <OzDave_mbp> Any version of Dreamweaver can do that however you may find textwrangler might do something similar
# [03:16] <randomdev> hmm I have dreamweaver, where abouts do i specify the tags to remove ?
# [03:16] <OzDave_mbp> 1 sec
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# [03:17] <OzDave_mbp> Edit / Find Replace then toggle source code on the Search Box or specific tag
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# [03:17] <OzDave_mbp> you can save and load them as queries there as well
# [03:18] <randomdev> ah nice
# [03:18] <randomdev> never knew you could specify tags there
# [03:18] <randomdev> thanks
# [03:18] <OzDave_mbp> :)
# [03:18] <OzDave_mbp> NP
# [03:19] <randomdev> can i specify more than one tag at a time ?
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# [03:19] <OzDave_mbp> not sure about that mate have a fiddle with the advanced thingy magig - or do it in waves
# [03:20] <randomdev> got a lot of files to do so trying to find the most time efficient method
# [03:20] <OzDave_mbp> you can do it to all files
# [03:20] <OzDave_mbp> always make a zip before you mungefarkle it
# [03:20] <randomdev> I will have to copy/paste code in there
# [03:20] <OzDave_mbp> Look at the Find in tag at the top
# [03:21] <OzDave_mbp> Open Documents, or selected files etc
# [03:21] <OzDave_mbp> entire site etc
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# [03:26] <randomdev> need to find something else, dreamweaver works but have to do like 3 passes :/
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# [03:27] <OzDave_mbp> your going to have to do the passes anyway, make dream weaver manage the site contents first in the site manager
# [03:27] <OzDave_mbp> all find replace tools will have the same issue
# [03:27] <randomdev> i could use that online tool which is ideal.. just id have to type in a whole lot of tags not to strip
# [03:27] <OzDave_mbp> the tool is right in front of you before you dismiss it
# [03:28] <randomdev> the data is not in files, I have to manually copy and paste
# [03:28] <OzDave_mbp> is it in a spreadsheet?
# [03:28] <randomdev> nope
# [03:29] <OzDave_mbp> rainbow unicorn fart
# [03:29] <randomdev> you got it
# [03:29] <OzDave_mbp> hehe
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# [03:34] <randomdev> i think i just found what i want in clean up html
# [03:34] <randomdev> can specify tags to strip
# [03:35] <OzDave_mbp> Excelsior!
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# [03:49] <bartell> I'm getting confused with the Canvas.. Is the center of the canvas usually 0,0?
# [03:49] <bartell> in terms of x,y
# [03:51] <daveace> top left is 0 0
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# [03:54] <bartell> any idea how that could be changed?
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# [03:57] <OzDave_mbp> offset everything with a buffer that is a MaxWidth / 2
# [03:57] <OzDave_mbp> MaxHeight / 2 as well
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# [04:05] <bartell> I'm drawing a path and applying a stoke to it. Is offset an attribute or something?
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# [04:47] <iuhiz> @bartell i suppose you can use moveTo(maxWidthOfCanvas / 2, maxHeightOfCanvas / 2) to begin drawing from the center of your canvas
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# [05:00] <daveace> why do you want to work from the middle?
# [05:00] <daveace> on a note
# [05:00] <daveace> you could write an x
# [05:00] <daveace> and x() function and a y() function
# [05:00] <daveace> function x(in) { var x = in+maxWidthOfCanvas; }
# [05:01] <daveace> and instead of doing lineTo( 200, 300)... do lineTo(x(200),y(300));
# [05:01] <daveace> but that would be a pain in the tit
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# [05:16] <prishabh> my new html5 game - http://khele.in/pappu-pakia/
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# [12:26] <test01> hi what's the best way to rip a website?
# [12:26] <test01> there's this nice website that I'd like to save but it doesn't show me the full source code in firefox
# [12:26] <test01> what can I do ?
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# [12:28] <OzDave_mbp> not all sites can be raked. depending on your operating system as well http://www.httrack.com/ http://sbl.net/
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# [13:21] <VastGsmX> Hi all,
# [13:21] <VastGsmX> Anyone here know how to get a contact form working?
# [13:22] <test01> thanks httrack worked
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# [13:26] <VastGsmX> http://pastebin.com/XAvMHaqh
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# [14:33] <schwanken> Hello...
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# [14:33] <schwanken> I have a problem with an HTML% audio object
# [14:34] <schwanken> I try to set the current time ($("audio").get(0).currentTime = 10)
# [14:34] <schwanken> But nothing changes
# [14:34] <schwanken> And when I check whats in $("audio").get(0).currentTime then the value is not the value I set, but the value it was before
# [14:35] <schwanken> Does somebody have an idea on how to fix this?
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# [14:44] <muay-guy> Hi, I apologize in advance for what I'm about to ask. I was asked by my boss (who doesn't understand the difference between Python and HTML5/JS) if the following could be implemented without Flash. http://buyral.ca/ (once there click on "Click to see more unignorable ideas…", then in "who we are", and basically what you see now is what he wants to know if it's feasible without flash)
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# [15:42] <iamdustan> muay-guy: fwiw that is possible
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# [15:43] <muay-guy> iamdustan: how would you go about doing it though?
# [15:43] <iamdustan> a lot of css3 transitions
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# [15:44] <iamdustan> some things would be more experimental (such as blurring. I would send you a link, but that site doesn’t know what links are)
# [15:45] <muay-guy> I hate flash
# [15:45] <iamdustan> I hate annoying websites ;)
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# [15:45] <muay-guy> why do bosses love annoying websites?
# [15:45] <iamdustan> haha
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# [15:46] <EHLOVader> muay-guy: "It needs to pop more"
# [15:47] <EHLOVader> you making a restaurant site?
# [15:47] <muay-guy> anyways,… I think I would be a bit over my head with this. I've been looking for some alternatives to introduce him to. I'm in the middle of a backend project with is high priority and I can't learn to learn how to use 10 js libraries and animate canvas
# [15:47] <muay-guy> EHLOVader: SEO agency site
# [15:47] <EHLOVader> potentially worst offenders, which now that i think about it, is there a semantic web standard for restaurant menus, and has anyone seen it in the wild?
# [15:48] <EHLOVader> ^ worst offenders in my mind are restaurants, not SEO sites...
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# [15:48] <muay-guy> yeah, I know what you mean
# [15:48] <muay-guy> I've seen many of those… also small music production startups
# [15:49] <EHLOVader> so are you tasked with choosing between learning 10 js libraries or learning how to animate canvas?
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# [15:49] <muay-guy> EHLOVader: I wasn't given much of a choice, they have a designer and she told me "mr boss" found that website and would like me to replicate the about us page
# [15:50] <muay-guy> I don't even know what I should use for something like that, but I will most probably just tell her I'd be way over my head with that and present her with simpler alternatives
# [15:50] <EHLOVader> jquery has decent support for that I think. So your use case is fanciful things, not like graphs, or charts or 3d modeling necessarily
# [15:51] <muay-guy> or tell her this job would be better suited for a front-end guy
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# [15:51] <EHLOVader> not sure though on a good answer, just felt your pain on the manager/marketing/owner/that guy saying/loving/asking for the crap web design stuff
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# [15:52] <EHLOVader> yeah, so muay-guy did you have the example site? with what is wanted to be achieved?
# [15:52] <muay-guy> yeah, no problem. thanks for that IRC bro
# [15:53] <muay-guy> EHLOVader: he knows I can use js and html, and somehow assumed I could help the designer with it
# [15:53] <muay-guy> this is the example site http://buyral.ca/
# [15:53] <EHLOVader> oic
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# [15:54] <EHLOVader> so you are kinda facilitating a designer who does the layout, mockups, and markups but doesn't know dynamic frilly frontend stuff
# [15:54] <muay-guy> then you click on "Click to see more unignorable ideas…", then in "who we are"
# [15:54] <muay-guy> and that "who we are" section is what he wants
# [15:54] <muay-guy> EHLOVader: pretty much
# [15:55] <EHLOVader> I think we may be looking at different sites
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# [15:56] <muay-guy> how come?
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# [15:56] <EHLOVader> oh
# [15:56] <EHLOVader> haha
# [15:56] <EHLOVader> I see what you did
# [15:56] <EHLOVader> landing of buyral.ca is their viral campaign.. you need to click see more stuff from john st.
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# [15:56] <muay-guy> yeah
# [15:57] <EHLOVader> oh even better, you have a flash about and you need it in canvas
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# [15:59] <muay-guy> I think I'm going to show her this http://fancyrhino.com/ (the crew section) and tell her it'd be easier to do something like that
# [16:00] <muay-guy> I'm simply not a front-end guy and I don't know what would run on IE and what wouldn't or what else I need to keep in mind
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# [16:01] <EHLOVader> you may look into http://www.pixastic.com/lib/
# [16:01] <EHLOVader> it looks like something that would do what you want... but not sure if you would want to have a fallback with jquery opacity or something
# [16:02] <muay-guy> yeah, I found this for that http://solemone.de/code/code-examples/demos-grayscale-hover-effect-with-html5-canvas-and-jquery/
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# [16:04] <iamdustan> EHLOVader: re: semantic restaurant menus -> I think there is a microformat for that.
# [16:05] <EHLOVader> yeah, I did a quick search, really would like to see all restaurants adopt that
# [16:05] <EHLOVader> tired of flash (although I have android so I am only slightly affected by this trend)
# [16:05] <iamdustan> or http://schema.org/FoodEstablishment
# [16:06] <iamdustan> I have an iphone and use the web on it daily and can’t think of the last time that I ran into an issue because of flash
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# [16:11] <EHLOVader> really
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# [16:11] <EHLOVader> hmm, I must be browsing lots of pr0n sites geard towards those IE6 users
# [16:11] * EHLOVader prefers real video streaming for his high quality pr0n...
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# [19:00] <ziz_> Hey guys, lame question, but what is the technology called where it seems like all pages are vertically one after the other and the header stays static, and clicking on a header nav item scrolls to that area, and if you scroll manually that nav menu item will show that it's the current item
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# [19:00] <ziz_> sorry about that bad explaination
# [19:02] <ziz_> sort of like this (in this version the main nav is on the left hand side) http://www.projectrebrief.com/volvo/#page=overview
# [19:03] <carminec> ziz_: infinite scroll?
# [19:03] <carminec> https://github.com/paulirish/infinite-scroll
# [19:04] <ziz_> Isn't that just when you scroll to the bottom and it loads more content?
# [19:04] <tw2113> wrong thing carminec
# [19:05] <alexhancock> Yeah, what you're talking about sounds just like a combination of a fixed header (with highlighting for active section) and standard html anchors
# [19:05] <tw2113> ziz_ is looking for fixed positioning and one other thing i can't recall
# [19:05] <ziz_> sorry,terrible explanation
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# [19:05] <ziz_> yeah the fixed position isn't the hard part.. I know my css
# [19:05] <ziz_> and I know I could use some jquery to create that slide effect with anchors but I think it's something else
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# [19:06] <tw2113> http://imakewebthings.com/jquery-waypoints/
# [19:07] <tw2113> you're welcome ziz_
# [19:08] <carminec> ah, there you go, my bad
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# [19:09] <ziz_> tw2113 thanks! sorry got caught up in reading it
# [19:09] <tw2113> and here i thought i was talking in #jquery
# [19:10] <tw2113> not the first time that's happened
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# [19:11] <ziz_> haha sorry should have asked in there
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# [19:11] <ziz_> that's not what projectrebreif is using tho right?
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# [19:13] <tw2113> doesn't appear to be
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# [19:19] <ziz_> can you tell what they're using?
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# [19:21] <tw2113> nope
# [19:21] <tw2113> just use waypoints and be happy :P
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# [19:30] <kedric> Hey all: HTML 5 on iPad with iOS 6.0.1, I add a video element and play it. Remove the video, then add it again. When I add it again the video flashes and then hides. No warnings or errors are thrown. Any idea why this happens?
# [19:30] <kedric> I know that on iOS you can only have one Video playing at a time but I am removing the video from the document
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# [20:57] <andrew9184> Has anyone have experience with live streaming ?
# [20:59] <dahlfors> some yes
# [20:59] <dahlfors> I work at a live streaming service :)
# [21:01] <dahlfors> when it comes to livestreaming and html5, the tech isn't really mature yet. flash still has its advantages. if you want to support a lot of platforms, you basically need both flash and html5 support
# [21:02] <dahlfors> I can recommend you to try out our service, bambuser.com if that fits your needs. free for personal use, paid service for companies
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# [21:19] <deanclkclk> anyone here can help me with a css issue?
# [21:19] <Gho5t> no
# [21:19] <Gho5t> try in #css
# [21:20] <Gho5t> jk
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# [21:22] <iatkotep> does anybody know how to fix the slight stutter I'm getting in my html5 video loop?
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# [22:19] <trollboy> I've seen others use "custom tags" before, but when I try it they don't seem to work.. is there something I'm missing?
# [22:20] <Gho5t> whatcha talkin bout bra
# [22:21] <trollboy> I'm making a page roller (don't ask) and the template will take widgets that go in them. I was wanting to use a <widget></widget> tag so that design team can just do a <widget></widget> and in my css I did a widget { border:1px solid red; background-image: url('/path/to/img'); }
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# [22:22] <Gho5t> i think you're thinking of xhtml
# [22:23] <trollboy> aww carp
# [22:24] <Gho5t> i would avoid that
# [22:24] <Gho5t> like the plague
# [22:24] <trollboy> better ideas?
# [22:24] <Gho5t> seems like you can do it
# [22:24] <Gho5t> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2802687/is-there-a-way-to-create-your-own-html-tag-in-html5
# [22:24] <Gho5t> but still, don't
# [22:25] <Gho5t> what's wrong with a class name?
# [22:25] <Gho5t> or even a data-* attribute
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# [22:46] <Moo^_^> Gho5t: creating own tags is against the spec
# [22:46] <Moo^_^> so you would be intentionally asking blood from your nose
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# [22:46] <Gho5t> yes i was advising trollboy not to
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# [22:48] <Moo^_^> Gho5t: I think it is for future compatibility
# [22:48] <Moo^_^> WHATWG might add <widget> tag themselves...
# [22:49] <Foo-Bar> it's great to be able to tell people 'no' .... but could you at least explain why, so they know the exact reason behind it?
# [22:49] <Foo-Bar> is it because the w3c validator won't read it?
# [22:49] * Foo-Bar shrugs
# [22:49] <b-ot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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# [22:50] <Gho5t> we have plenty of tags
# [22:50] <Gho5t> why do you need to create your own
# [22:50] <roy___> Pulling out my hair .. website i'm working on looks fine on safari,chrome and firefox in OSX but in Windows it looks different also in Chrome and firefox
# [22:51] <Foo-Bar> I use a framework to create my own .... <map type="google" location="123 main st, sac,ca" width="200" height="200" /> etc. etc.
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# [22:52] <roy___> I'm not sure what to do about that
# [22:52] <Gho5t> neither are we
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# [22:59] <roy___> I know its possible to detect which browser is used, would it be also possible to determine the operating system ?
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# [23:11] <CoJaBo> "The server at www.w3.org is taking too long to respond."
# [23:11] <CoJaBo> WHAT MADNESS IS THIS!?
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# [23:26] <BoomerBile> can anyone get to http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
# [23:26] <BoomerBile> ?
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# [23:37] <trollboy> Moo^_^, my PHB wants to generate a template via a UI, with spacer blocks to throw in blurbs.. the blurbs will be randomly pulled from blurb libraries "HeaderBlurbs", "BodyBlurbs","CallToActionBlurbs", etc
# [23:38] <trollboy> so in the template, I need a big box I can programmatically replace out with the blurb later on
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