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  1. # Session Start: Wed Dec 05 00:00:00 2012
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  12. # [00:10] <ffsFreeNode> hi everyone, fast question about audio tag, is there a way to know when a file is playing? Not that the user/js has hit play button, but when sound is actually playing
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  17. # [00:14] <rimas> you can't know if the sound is actually playing. the browser outputs the sound to the system and cannot do much about what happens to it from there (if it's muted, sound drivers are bad, soundcard does not exist, speaker volume down, etc.)
  18. # [00:14] <rimas> here 'system' = OS
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  20. # [00:15] <Moo^_^> ffsFreeNode: there are media events
  21. # [00:15] <ffsFreeNode> rimas appreciate, my main concern is about buffering delay from play order until it really starts
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  23. # [00:15] <Moo^_^> ffsFreeNode: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/DOM/Media_events
  24. # [00:15] <rimas> ah, then use media events, as Moo^_^ suggests
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  30. # [00:17] <ffsFreeNode> Moo^^ yeah i know about them, unfortuantelly they are not reliable, I was wondering if there was anything more reliable than them
  31. # [00:17] <ffsFreeNode> appreciate help tho
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  33. # [00:17] <Moo^_^> ffsFreeNode: web audio API then
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  35. # [00:17] <Moo^_^> it offers low latency functions and such
  36. # [00:17] <Moo^_^> though it's not that widely implemented yet
  37. # [00:18] <ffsFreeNode> Moo^_^ mmmm that may be a good option, my problem target is iOS web audio
  38. # [00:18] <ffsFreeNode> so I'll have to check if web audio API is available
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  40. # [00:18] <ffsFreeNode> I can't believe that something as simple as "playing a background music" is such a challenge :/
  41. # [00:19] <ffsFreeNode> (to be cross browser)
  42. # [00:19] <Moo^_^> <body bgmusic="canyon.midi">
  43. # [00:19] <ffsFreeNode> (playing when I decided that is the right time to play, not when the buffer thinks it is correct
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  45. # [00:19] <ffsFreeNode> ios requires user input to play
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  47. # [00:19] <Moo^_^> iOS 6 supports web audio
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  49. # [00:20] <ffsFreeNode> (ios4 and 5 allowed iframe trick, but on ios6 they solved it :/
  50. # [00:20] <Moo^_^> and there is Audio which emulates <audio> over web audio api
  51. # [00:20] <Moo^_^> sorry
  52. # [00:20] <Moo^_^> Audia
  53. # [00:20] <ffsFreeNode> mmm I'll have a look on it, appreciate a lot your insights
  54. # [00:21] <ffsFreeNode> (never heard of audia, but will check around)
  55. # [00:21] <ffsFreeNode> got some nice hints, thanks
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  77. # [00:43] <Moo^_^> ffsFreeNode: I use Audia and plain <audio> as a fallback
  78. # [00:44] <Moo^_^> If you don't have Web Audio support then you'll gracefully degenerate with less effects and bang
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  80. # [00:46] <ffsFreeNode> I ma having a look and see how it goes, trully appreciate your insights
  81. # [00:46] <ffsFreeNode> I'll let you know how it goes in the end if I finish it today :)
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  113. # [01:31] <tw2113> i'm doomed cgcardona
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  117. # [01:42] <cgcardona> tw2113: why?
  118. # [01:42] <cgcardona> you got the ring of power?!
  119. # [01:42] <tw2113> http://twitpic.com/bj4ppi
  120. # [01:42] <cgcardona> oh nice.
  121. # [01:42] <cgcardona> very nice
  122. # [01:43] <tw2113> strawberries included in it
  123. # [01:43] <tw2113> lets just say, i shouldn't eat very many of those
  124. # [01:44] <tw2113> potent lil f'ers
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  126. # [01:45] <cgcardona> mmmm
  127. # [01:45] <cgcardona> strawberries
  128. # [01:46] <tw2113> 100proof soaked strawberries
  129. # [01:46] <cgcardona> mmmmmmm
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  133. # [01:57] <cgcardona> how much did it cost tw2113 ?
  134. # [01:57] <tw2113> $23
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  490. # [12:33] <MalMen> hello, i get content of emails, and i need to show them, how can i show html of email inside html of main page ? first i thinked about iframe, but it looks like iframe only allow me to load content of another page, is that possible to load everything on the current page ?
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  530. # [13:42] <Quest> I have searched alot but I am unable to find a way to use username password authentication view Internet Explorer (working with firefox). for example http://username:password@website-addres . ANY work around/solutions ?
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  601. # [14:59] <roy___> So i'm building this website that i'm frequently updating but some browsers Firefox most notably leaves the pages in cache for a long time is there something i could do about this ? Like emptying the cache on the users computer for this particular website ?
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  701. # [16:34] <onr> roy___: which http server?
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  704. # [16:37] <Moo^_^> roy___: the browser works as intended. your website caching rules don't.
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  706. # [16:37] <Moo^_^> so you need to send proper HTTP headers to tell how the page should be cached
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  716. # [16:44] <roy___> Moo^_^: Yes i did figure it out meanwhile
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  721. # [16:47] <Moo^_^> roy___: also for static media assets like JS and CSS it makes sense to use cache busting URLs
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  1120. # [22:48] <w00tner> i want to retrieve 3 elements.. is there anyway to clone them to a canvas clong the html() and using position information for x and y positionin for each element
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