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  74. # [02:08] <saint_> Hi all . Can someone recommend the good way to do this: I have to create a web page that query either a mysql database, or a file every 5 seconds , and refresh the display depending on what comes out on the database or what is in the file.
  75. # [02:09] <saint_> What is the best way to have a page that refreshes every 5 seconds ? (ajax/jquery, http-equiv=refresh, something else..?) and where is the best way to keep my data (have them in a file, or in a mysql db) ?
  76. # [02:10] <OzDave_mbp> php? http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?649511-Best-way-to-autmatically-refresh-a-page-every-5-to-15-minutes-without-user-knowing
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  78. # [02:12] <saint_> looks like jquery is what i need: ajax is the process of refreshing the data from the server without refreshing the whole page
  79. # [02:12] <saint_> that would be perfect.
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  429. # [07:30] <SkNix> I have a question, can I use html5 with a doctype of xhtml? For example I get a site already created using xhtml normal, and I change it in some parts only, using html5?
  430. # [07:31] <SkNix> without changing the doctype
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  445. # [08:06] <ordinaryman09> hello, any1 know if we can override the href to respond to double click instead of regular click?
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  447. # [08:07] <OzDave_mbp> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2629916/how-do-you-override-inline-onclick-event
  448. # [08:07] <OzDave_mbp> might be tricky
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  450. # [08:08] <OzDave_mbp> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1760096/override-default-behaviour-for-link-a-objects-in-javascript
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  457. # [08:10] <ordinaryman09> thanks
  458. # [08:11] <OzDave_mbp> merry bloody sunday :)
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  494. # [09:30] <Jerrry> Hello, is anyone here?
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  543. # [11:11] <diomeo> guys a good one channel where i can ask about icons vector illustrations?
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  545. # [11:16] <jarek> diomeo: there is #design
  546. # [11:16] <jarek> diomeo: but it is not very active
  547. # [11:16] <diomeo> any other channels?
  548. # [11:16] <diomeo> yep for that
  549. # [11:17] <jarek> diomeo: I used do be doing some icons, you can ask here :P
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  551. # [11:19] <diomeo> :D
  552. # [11:20] <diomeo> i would like to represent a task , i mean somenthing to-do to receive back somenthing else
  553. # [11:22] <jarek> diomeo: I don't understand
  554. # [11:22] <diomeo> i need to make up an icon
  555. # [11:22] <diomeo> the icon should represent a task, to-do
  556. # [11:22] <diomeo> somenthing to-do
  557. # [11:22] <jarek> ahh, I see
  558. # [11:22] <jarek> you need some ideas
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  560. # [11:22] <diomeo> yup
  561. # [11:22] <diomeo> :P
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  563. # [11:23] <jarek> why don't just rip-off the ideas from similar apps
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  565. # [11:23] <jarek> I mean there is nothing wrong in stealing ideas
  566. # [11:23] <diomeo> i can't find out nìanything similar :(
  567. # [11:24] <jarek> there are hundreds of "todo list" apps
  568. # [11:24] <jarek> most of them are using some sort of simplified visualisation of real life todo list
  569. # [11:24] <diomeo> did you have some so i can check?
  570. # [11:24] <jarek> like a shit of paper and a pencil
  571. # [11:25] <jarek> I mean sheet...
  572. # [11:26] <diomeo> ahaha shit of paper sound great LOL
  573. # [11:26] <jarek> diomeo: look for "todo" keyword on app stores
  574. # [11:26] <diomeo> oh great idea :D
  575. # [11:27] <diomeo> i need to express the fact that the to-do is usefull for someone else
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  579. # [11:29] <jarek> than make it look like something that people use everyday, like sheet of paper mentioned already
  580. # [11:29] <jarek> s/than/then
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  584. # [11:31] <diomeo> well appstore has the worst icons i ever seen about todo
  585. # [11:31] <diomeo> standard is , paper sheet with pencil, or a check arrow
  586. # [11:31] <diomeo> i really don't like them :/
  587. # [11:33] <jarek> Wunderlist has nice icon, though I'm not sure what it is showing
  588. # [11:34] <diomeo> going to check that thx!!
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  630. # [13:33] <sunbeam> hi, i'm adding google maps to a page using the api. However, when this part (the div google maps is displayed in) is hidden at page load, when I later show it, it's not working properly (only small part of map displays)
  631. # [13:33] <sunbeam> any ideas how come?
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  698. # [16:04] <ilian> Hi
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  700. # [16:05] <ilian> Does anyone have any experience using the history API with forms?
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  711. # [16:27] <drag0nius> what is 'proper' way to create menus?
  712. # [16:28] <drag0nius> i like table-like appearance
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  755. # [18:12] <Loving_u> hi
  756. # [18:12] <Loving_u> where to learn about html 5 ?
  757. # [18:12] <Loving_u> i want to learn it all
  758. # [18:13] <Loving_u> i dont have any pre knowledge about TCP,UDP.
  759. # [18:13] <Loving_u> i know about programming
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  763. # [18:14] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: start learning generic web development first
  764. # [18:15] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: here http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/htmlcss
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  766. # [18:15] <Loving_u> yes i learn about css html xhtml javascript php
  767. # [18:16] <Loving_u> i mean i can code but now pro
  768. # [18:16] <Loving_u> i want to refresh everything
  769. # [18:16] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: see links in the channel topic
  770. # [18:17] <Loving_u> what u mean ?
  771. # [18:17] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: this is an IRC channel
  772. # [18:18] <Moo^_^> you should see a topic line somewhere on the top of the channel
  773. # [18:18] <Moo^_^> in whatever application you are using
  774. # [18:18] <Loving_u> oh thanks
  775. # [18:18] <Loving_u> i am sorry
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  777. # [18:18] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: no problem
  778. # [18:19] <Loving_u> 1 more question
  779. # [18:19] <Loving_u> is that ok
  780. # [18:20] <Loving_u> is html,html4,html5,xhtml exacly the same thing ? *_*
  781. # [18:21] <Loving_u> i mean can we apply css to both xhtml and html the same ?
  782. # [18:23] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: yes
  783. # [18:23] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: you will find the answer from diveintohtml5 boko
  784. # [18:23] <Moo^_^> book
  785. # [18:23] <Loving_u> ok
  786. # [18:24] <Loving_u> they are basicly do the same thing but based on different technology ?
  787. # [18:24] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: no
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  789. # [18:24] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: the answer is complex and too big to fit into one chat window :)
  790. # [18:24] <Moo^_^> just read
  791. # [18:24] <Loving_u> ok
  792. # [18:25] <Loving_u> so what should i use in my webpage then
  793. # [18:25] <Loving_u> html declare or xhtml ?
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  795. # [18:25] <Moo^_^> Loving_u: it depends what you are doing
  796. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> there is no simple answer
  797. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> what kind of site you are building, what kind of browses you taregt
  798. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> demography of target audience
  799. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> ans so on
  800. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> but because this is #html5 channel
  801. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> I say "just you use html5"
  802. # [18:26] <Moo^_^> http://html5boilerplate.com/
  803. # [18:29] <Loving_u> nerver see .md file
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  808. # [18:37] <Loving_u> wow
  809. # [18:37] <Loving_u> now xhtml and html 4 are become html5
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  844. # [19:59] <richweskus> Hey guys, im currently building an iphone app and im using the datetime field and it returns a value like 2012-12-15T18:53:47.989Z
  845. # [19:59] <richweskus> is this standard?
  846. # [19:59] <richweskus> or is it an apple thing
  847. # [20:00] <richweskus> found my answer thanks http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12343196/how-to-convert-yyyy-mm-ddthhmmssz-to-yyyy-mm-dd-hhmmss
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  945. # [23:01] <MangoBoy> Hi. I work with my doughter and we try to make a site with a toolkit, built in slide in menus or feilds on all sides, and logged in we want to be able surf around external sites for info in a tabbed enviroment without loosing access to our tools and ev text we working on in the wrighting tool located as a colapsable slidein at the bottom. iframes and layers with a menu and adress form could be a solution but thats not so good. i
  946. # [23:01] <MangoBoy> have understood as it is hard on blind. Is there som other solutions someone knows about or example sites to check out?
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  952. # [23:25] <mobile8> .offer-small > li:nth-child(3n)
  953. # [23:25] <mobile8> is this proper css3?
  954. # [23:25] <mobile8> each 3rd
  955. # [23:25] <mobile8> I need to have
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  970. # [23:47] <MangoBoy> Hi. I work with my daughter and we try to make a site with a toolkit, built in slide in menus or feilds on all sides, we want to be able surf around external sites for info in a tabbed enviroment without loosing access to our tools and ev text we working on in the wrighting tool located at the bottom in a colapsable slidein. our primitive html sens is to avoid js as ajax aren't allowed external browsing for security reasons so the t
  971. # [23:47] <MangoBoy> hought naturally wander towards a div with a dynamically loaded top menu, an address form, and iframes in layers with index, and/or eventually hidden and revealed by css. and a div with our tools at a higher index. Could it be a solution or is it no good. i have understood iframes is seen as outdated as it is hard for blind to handle. could one make it work with a navigational system for them or Is there some other solutions someon
  972. # [23:47] <MangoBoy> e knows about or example sites to check out? May be some best praxis extracted by time?
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