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# [03:11] <heath> navigator.webkitGetUserMedia({audio:true}, function(stream) {microphone = context.createMediaElementSource(stream); //ERRAR!
# [03:12] <heath> INVALID_STATE_ERR: DOM Exception 11
# [03:12] <heath> tips, hints, threats?
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# [03:24] <ItsMeLenny> could somebody tell me how i can centre the drop down lists on my nav menu www.suctioncuphands.com
# [03:25] <llamapixel> wrap it in a container div and centre that element
# [03:25] <llamapixel> http://www.thesitewizard.com/css/center-div-block.shtml
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# [03:26] <heath> createMediaElementSource(HTMLMediaElement mediaElement);
# [03:26] <heath> that explains it
# [03:27] <ItsMeLenny> no not centre in on the page sorry, centre it bellow the menuy
# [03:27] <ItsMeLenny> below the menu*
# [03:27] <llamapixel> derp
# [03:27] <ItsMeLenny> herp
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# [03:44] <machicola> anyone recommend any particular material for someone relatively new to html & css that wants to jump right into it?
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# [03:45] <ItsMeLenny> yes machicola http://www.codecademy.com <-- really good, really fun
# [03:45] <ItsMeLenny> and sets up challenges and goals so you're not doing html willy nilly
# [03:46] <ItsMeLenny> also does javascript
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# [03:48] <machicola> thanks ItsMeLenny
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# [03:49] <ItsMeLenny> machicola, you get a cool page like this with tracks and badges http://www.codecademy.com/users/suctioncuphands
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# [03:51] <machicola> not sure if it's for me... i like to go at my own pace, but pretty cool im sure for a lot of people
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# [03:55] <Nautilus> i'm looking for a little bit of html5 to put on a site, looking for ideas. I have a target image on the page, so maybe someone's seen something like an arrow shooter?
# [03:56] <machicola> is its me lenny a bot?
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# [04:05] <ItsMeLenny> machicola, no
# [04:13] <ItsMeLenny> machicola, it is your own pace
# [04:13] <machicola> ok, thanks for the suggestion though
# [04:13] <ItsMeLenny> you do it when you want
# [04:13] <machicola> well, its learning through dictation though
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# [04:13] <ItsMeLenny> Nautilus, 3D?
# [04:13] <ItsMeLenny> LOL hardly
# [04:14] <machicola> i don't know, it's relative and hard to explain
# [04:14] <ItsMeLenny> its learning through action
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# [04:14] <machicola> isn't all learning
# [04:14] <ItsMeLenny> and the tutorials are that simple the amount of knowledge you gain
# [04:14] <ItsMeLenny> ?
# [04:14] <ItsMeLenny> you're mad in the head
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# [04:15] <machicola> ahh, you mean they tell you to code... got it
# [04:15] <machicola> it doesn't mean someone wouldn't do that anyway though
# [04:16] <machicola> in essence, its learning through dictation, like i said
# [04:16] <machicola> lol
# [04:16] <machicola> refer back
# [04:16] <machicola> everyone is different, i really don't like that method... straight up
# [04:16] <machicola> sorry if that hurts your feelings
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# [04:19] <llamapixel> I found Jeff's blog interesting machicola but I am gearing for games over device and desk
# [04:19] <llamapixel> http://muizelaar.blogspot.com.au/2011/02/drawing-sprites-canvas-2d-vs-webgl.html
# [04:19] <llamapixel> I followed it up with this post https://developers.facebook.com/html5/blog/post/2012/04/17/making-a-speedy-html5-game/
# [04:22] <machicola> ItsMeLenny, I take that back... the only time I find that method useful is when I'm an absolute beginner at something and even then I feel that its value diminishes very quickly as more skill is learned, but in this case... i'm not an absolute beginner
# [04:22] <machicola> it will just feel restrictive
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# [04:25] <machicola> and ItsMeLenny , another thing is... there isn't really much that can be learned authentically without action or experiental learning imo
# [04:25] <machicola> our culture is very didactic which is mostly just imbalance imo
# [04:25] <llamapixel> lie down with dogs, expect fleas mate
# [04:25] <Nautilus> ItsMeLenny: sorry, I was away. I don't have any preference (re: 3D), just want to make a static site do a little something
# [04:26] <machicola> that's not real learning, to sit at a desk and read for hours and days
# [04:26] <llamapixel> the guy was asking how to centre a div. no big stretch imagining his experience
# [04:26] <machicola> even though that's what we typically do in schools and educational institutuions
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# [04:44] <ItsMeLenny> machicola, bloody hell you can talk, just google html then
# [04:44] <ItsMeLenny> Nautilus, maybe you could have like a puzzle, slider puzzle or something
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# [04:47] <Nautilus> i was just thinking maybe a game of darts, move the mouse to throw?
# [04:48] <Nautilus> trying to find something I can reuse
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# [04:50] <Nautilus> ugh, googling for that finds the "Dart" library
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# [04:57] <ItsMeLenny> lol
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# [15:47] <atjehcyber> all, am need help for make some application for input and report printing
# [15:47] <atjehcyber> i can pay about it for $10
# [15:47] <atjehcyber> please respond
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# [16:00] <Itrace> Happy new year.
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# [16:03] <moo-_-> atjehcyber: go to efreelancer.com or similar
# [16:03] <moo-_-> atjehcyber: this channel is focused on HTML5 and your enquiry is not related
# [16:03] <moo-_-> thanks
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# [18:45] <Boze_> This is probably simple, but how do I store a variable in opendatabase? I'm trying to save the date var at the top in the added_on spot in the table http://pastebin.com/q3AzVj7n <3
# [18:47] <Boze_> *the value of the date var
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# [18:56] <mishugana> Heyhey
# [18:56] <roy___> I have this textarea with some text already in it .. and i want the user to be able to make changes to it .. In chrome it works fine but in Firefox though for some reason the text is not selectable and its impossible to put the cursor at the end of any line of text
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# [18:56] <mishugana> roy___ do you have an overlay on your text area
# [18:57] <roy___> No
# [18:57] <mishugana> also, do you have the site up somewhere to look at, maybe a snippet of the code on jfiddle or something
# [18:58] <Boze_> fixed ^
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# [18:59] <roy___> mishugana: http://www.hare-majesteit.com/webwinkel.html#besteldirect , this is the site
# [18:59] <roy___> mishugana: the html is a mess probably i could only understand
# [18:59] <roy___> mishugana: but i wonder why it will work in chrome but not firefox
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# [19:01] <mishugana> story. of. my . life
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# [19:01] <mishugana> and i cant speak for everyone in html5, because im new here
# [19:01] <mishugana> but probably story of everyones life.
# [19:02] <roy___> yeah
# [19:04] <mishugana> in chrome i cannot select the already written text
# [19:04] <mishugana> i can add text to the bottom
# [19:04] <mishugana> oh wait
# [19:04] <mishugana> no
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# [19:04] <mishugana> in firefox i can add text. sorry, and its to the top
# [19:04] <mishugana> so ive established i have the same error as you
# [19:05] <Ouchy> roy its a css thing
# [19:06] <Ouchy> -mox-user-select: none
# [19:06] <Ouchy> on your body
# [19:06] <Ouchy> is causing the issue with firfoz
# [19:06] <Ouchy> sheet4.css :)
# [19:06] <Ouchy> firefox*
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# [19:08] <mishugana> :) there you go
# [19:08] <roy___> Ouchy: Ah yeah great .. thanks
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# [19:10] <roy___> glad i got that solved
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# [19:13] <anildigital> what's nice book to grok html5 quickly
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# [19:14] <bowenac> anyone familiar with canvas? I am trying to figure out a on click funtion to position a drawing...
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# [19:16] <bowenac> I can move the image around with my mouse but I want a button to move position and resize image etc... as I can't find a way to just resize the drawing
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# [19:19] <Boze_> using openDatabase INSERT INTO works, but how do I change or overwrite the values stored in the table?
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# [19:21] <bowenac> Have you tried UPDATE
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# [19:22] <Boze_> bowenac, yes doesn't seem to change it
# [19:22] <bowenac> UPDATE tablename SET blah blah WHERE
# [19:23] <bowenac> you sure your syntax is correct
# [19:23] <bowenac> thats how you update a table
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# [19:24] <Boze_> please excuse the paste, where does the SET and WHERE go? tx.executeSql("UPDATE journal(id, added_on, journal_item) VALUES (7, '"+ todays_date +"', 'DDDDDDDD')");
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# [19:25] <bowenac> http://www.w3schools.com/sql/sql_update.asp
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# [19:29] <Boze_> thanks
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# [19:34] <bowenac> anyone know anything about canvas
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# [19:36] <David_Bradbury> Nobody at all :)
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# [19:36] <David_Bradbury> Also, w3schools is the devil
# [19:36] <David_Bradbury> http://w3fools.com/
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# [19:39] <ascarpino> hi all, can I list all files in a dir with html5?
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# [19:40] <ascarpino> I'd like to create an ul element dinamically, what should I use?
# [19:41] <maxmahem> ascarpino: sounds like more of a server side question. I made a teribleish php program that does that though: https://github.com/MaxMahem/IRC-Log-Explorer
# [19:42] <ascarpino> no, I've to use html5 only
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# [19:42] <ascarpino> (ok, js is allowed of course :)
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# [20:27] <David_Bradbury> No you can not
# [20:27] <aj910martin> Hey, How can we add labels to the object in example like this (http://www.html5canvastutorials.com/kineticjs/html5-canvas-kineticjs-circle-tutorial/). Couldn't find anything in the docs
# [20:28] <David_Bradbury> HTML doesn't 'do' anything. If you're talking about the related technologies, and using JavaScript, you still cannot because you cannot read the server using JavaScript
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# [20:50] <Leeol> Without JavaScript.. anyone know of a way to make a normal link submit a post request? My goal is to make a `delete` link submit a fake `delete` method via the POST method. However, the only html-way i can figure to make a POST submission is with a form.. and those buttons are ugly/unfunctional for many uses
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# [20:54] <Ouchy> Leeol you can use CSS to style the button
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# [20:54] <Leeol> Ah, yea i am finding that now, i didn't think CSS could style it to normal text
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# [20:54] <Leeol> I'm looking into that now, thank you
# [20:54] <Ouchy> also what are you trying to send ?
# [20:54] <Ouchy> is it form data?
# [20:54] <Ouchy> like textbox data?
# [20:55] <Leeol> Ouchy: A blank delete method. Though, since without JS we don't have the ability to send DELETE methods, i am using serverside to handle converting faux methods into real methods
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# [20:56] <Leeol> Ouchy: The POST request would basically just be `POST {_method: 'DELETE}`
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# [20:59] <Leeol> Ouchy: But yea, you were right, CSS is perfect for this, thank you. http://jsfiddle.net/Q6wVq/5/ :)
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# [21:10] <mishugana> Regarding inputs and forms, the .focus() method in javascript seems to highlight the value text (at least in chrome)
# [21:11] <mishugana> Is there a way to not have it highlight the text, just to focus at the end of it
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# [21:15] <Ouchy> do something like textbox.focus();textbox.value = textbox.value;
# [21:15] <Ouchy> so put the focus on the box
# [21:15] <Ouchy> and then copy / paste the value quick
# [21:15] <Ouchy> its hacky
# [21:16] <Ouchy> but works
# [21:17] <mishugana> yeah i was actually going to try that
# [21:17] <mishugana> thanks i will see how that works
# [21:17] <mishugana> hacky is my middle name
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