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  38. # [00:40] <heath> ping anyone know anything about web audio and recording from the microphone?
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  43. # [00:45] <llamapixel> does sound manager2 have anything for that heath?
  44. # [00:46] <llamapixel> http://www.schillmania.com/projects/soundmanager2/
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  59. # [01:03] <heath> llamapixel: that's interesting, but I'm not seeing anything in their documentation on recording
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  61. # [01:04] <llamapixel> It's a tricky area mate, havent seen much but this post that is untested
  62. # [01:04] <llamapixel> https://code.google.com/p/wami-recorder/
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  122. # [02:44] <Boze> is updating a html5 opendatabase different than like a mysql one? I can't get it to work
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  124. # [02:45] <Boze> updating values in a table
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  135. # [02:59] <Boze> i don't understand why tx.executeSql("UPDATE story SET paragraph='OMG IT WORKED' WHERE id='1'"); doesn't work :(
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  141. # [03:04] <llamapixel> never used it before sorry mate http://html5doctor.com/introducing-web-sql-databases/
  142. # [03:04] <llamapixel> either syntax or a browser issue
  143. # [03:05] <Boze> llamapixel, thanks, i've scoured that one
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  630. # [17:08] <mtthw> how reliable is localStorage?
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  632. # [17:08] <mtthw> ello?
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  639. # [17:14] <iamdustan> mtthw: define reliable?
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  694. # [18:19] <Jon47> localStorage is pretty well implemented in most browsers
  695. # [18:19] <Jon47> check caniuse for exact data
  696. # [18:19] <Jon47> you can't expect for it to be permanent - it's a user's storage and they can do whatever they want with it
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  699. # [18:23] <tw2113> i like to wipe out my stored localstorage data every now and then just to mess with sites i don't think i'll return to ever
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  702. # [18:28] <rmill> `caniuse localstorage
  703. # [18:28] <b-ot> rmill, You can use Web Storage - name/value pairs with: Internet Explorer 8, Firefox 3.5, Chrome 4, Safari 4, Opera 10.5, iOS Safari 3.2, and Opera Mobile 11. http://caniuse.com/#search=namevalue-storage
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  706. # [18:28] <rmill> ↑ Jon47
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  708. # [18:29] <rmill> I guess the person who asked initially is no longer around :s
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  747. # [19:35] <andrew9184> is there a way to force chrome to cache images ?
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  763. # [20:15] <sethwalker> andrew9184: add an expires header http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#expires
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  768. # [20:18] <andrew9184> ah thanks. im guessing theres no way to do it on my web app?
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  770. # [20:19] <sethwalker> there should be. is your web app serving images?
  771. # [20:19] <sethwalker> what language / framework?
  772. # [20:23] <andrew9184> well its all client side, in knockout.js
  773. # [20:24] <andrew9184> we're retrieving images from the client, from their server, just specifying the id
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  779. # [20:30] <sethwalker> hmm, i don't think you can force images into the normal browser cache from the client side
  780. # [20:30] <sethwalker> you could abuse local storage tho
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  841. # [22:22] <bowenac_> anyone know how I can do this function
  842. # [22:22] <bowenac_> http://webchat.freenode.net/
  843. # [22:22] <bowenac_> ooops
  844. # [22:22] <bowenac_> http://pastebin.com/Y9cbvyNG
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  848. # [22:24] <moo-_-> bowenac_: your question is not exactly specific to HTML5
  849. # [22:24] <bowenac_> http://pastebin.com/Y9cbvyNG
  850. # [22:24] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I suggest you ask on stackoverflow.com to get real help
  851. # [22:24] <bowenac_> im using an html5 canvas
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  853. # [22:24] <bowenac_> is that specific enough
  854. # [22:25] <moo-_-> bowenac_: you are using framework called Kinetic JS if I assume correctly
  855. # [22:25] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I suggest you ask on their support forums
  856. # [22:25] <moo-_-> or stackoverflow.com
  857. # [22:25] <moo-_-> bowenac_: you won't find answer here unless you are really really lucky
  858. # [22:25] <moo-_-> just to mention
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  864. # [22:36] <nooga> hi
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  866. # [22:37] <nooga> i've found something strange about using drawImage with image that was scaled with CSS
  867. # [22:38] <nooga> I load an image into img element and then set it's max-height in order to fit the image to the browser window
  868. # [22:38] <nooga> after that I use it as a source for ctx.drawImage(img, ...)
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  870. # [22:39] <nooga> and it seems that the coordinates I use on the already scaled image are wrong, because drawImage, apparently uses the original
  871. # [22:39] <nooga> any way to prevent that?
  872. # [22:39] <moo-_-> nooga: drawImage() operates on raw image data, not browser layout data
  873. # [22:40] <moo-_-> if you want to scale the image drawImage() takes separate parameters for it
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  875. # [22:40] <nooga> i'm using that parameters as well
  876. # [22:41] <nooga> I just want to fit the source img in the browser window and then use it as a source
  877. # [22:41] <nooga> if I could somehow discover the dimensions of raw image that drawImage uses, I could recalculate my coordinates and make it work properly
  878. # [22:43] <bowenac_> ok so what if I am just using canvas and not kinetic like this http://pastebin.com/j4V8Lcxr
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  881. # [22:46] <moo-_-> nooga: img.naturalWidth
  882. # [22:46] <moo-_-> img.naturalHeight
  883. # [22:47] <moo-_-> bowenac_: You are still using some sort of framework
  884. # [22:47] <moo-_-> whatever createjs is
  885. # [22:47] <moo-_-> bowenac_: the audience here does not konw
  886. # [22:47] <moo-_-> know
  887. # [22:48] <moo-_-> so I suggest you ask on stackoverflow.com where you actually might find people who can help with your problem :)
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  889. # [22:50] <bowenac_> ok sorry didn't think that mattered...
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  891. # [22:53] <moo-_-> bowenac_: no problem
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  893. # [22:54] <bowenac_> maybe a javascript or jquery irc might know how to write a function
  894. # [22:54] <bowenac_> since your assuming no one here knows
  895. # [22:54] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I mean the question lacks context
  896. # [22:54] <moo-_-> something takes in x coordinate
  897. # [22:54] <bowenac_> I don't see how the create.js has anything to do with moving an existing drawing
  898. # [22:54] <moo-_-> it is definitely specific to how you draw it using some sort of createjs bitmap
  899. # [22:55] <moo-_-> bowenac_: if you want to demostrate the idea better you might want to try to create a jsfiddle.net out of it
  900. # [22:55] <bowenac_> right but if I change those existing values and reload the page it will move the image... so I thought I could create another function to replace those values
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  902. # [22:56] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I suggest you try stackoverflow.com as there you might find persons using the similar framework and have dealt with similar problems
  903. # [22:57] <moo-_-> and they can also guide you to make question more verbose, so it is easier to undestand what you are doing and why
  904. # [22:58] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I don't really want to be impolite, but people here might not care about your problem in its current form, so I suggest find people who do
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  912. # [23:04] <bowenac_> yea I understand you must be the mod on this channel or something for making judgements about how others may feel based on your feelings
  913. # [23:04] <bowenac_> thats ok though
  914. # [23:04] <bowenac_> I posted it here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14165734/kineticjs-move-image-on-button-click
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  916. # [23:05] <bowenac_> thanks for your time
  917. # [23:05] <moo-_-> bowenac_: no problem
  918. # [23:06] <bowenac_> and I wasn't trying to be rude either...
  919. # [23:07] <moo-_-> bowenac_: though I did not undestand your reply if you tried to be ironical
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  921. # [23:07] <bowenac_> I have never visited this channel I am always on wordpress channel and help anyone when ever I can...
  922. # [23:08] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I have been here on this channel for long. it's not very active and people rarely get help in the issues like yours.
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  925. # [23:08] <moo-_-> or they rarely get help at all if if the question is not specific to HTML5 specification, features, or such
  926. # [23:08] <bowenac_> if and while I was on this channel being my first time if someone posted something I had an answer to I would help them... not sure how you assume everyone here doesn't care maybe that is just the regulars
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  929. # [23:09] <moo-_-> bowenac_: I have been on this channel since it had 3 members :)
  930. # [23:10] <moo-_-> bowenac_: so I know they don't care
  931. # [23:10] <moo-_-> but I still want to help
  932. # [23:10] <bowenac_> lol nice community you got here
  933. # [23:10] <bowenac_> anyways not to waste anyones time
  934. # [23:10] <bowenac_> thanks again for your suggestions
  935. # [23:10] <tw2113> not reading back too far, but i get the feeling there was a mixup between $jslibrary vs $html5tech
  936. # [23:11] <tw2113> willing to be wrong though
  937. # [23:12] <tw2113> also not sure how much this room is "support" vs talking about the development of the specs/features/apis
  938. # [23:12] <tw2113> just my $.03
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  940. # [23:17] <moo-_-> tw2113: I see you have inflation there
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  942. # [23:17] <tw2113> fiscal cliff side effects
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