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  129. # [05:26] <popof_> If I have a high res background that repeats along the x-axis, and I want it to scroll for about 10,000 px wide (but only show 500px at a time) is it inefficient to use a css background repeat x? Instead of say, only repeat it twice and just continuously move both back when it hits the limit
  130. # [05:26] <popof_> like -30x becomes maxX-30
  131. # [05:26] <popof_> and maxX+30 becomes 30
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  378. # [14:38] <ironfroggy> Can anyone tell me if its possible to directly/dynamically create File objects?
  379. # [14:39] <ironfroggy> without reading them from the filesystem API, drag and drop event, or a file input?
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  429. # [16:32] <zettam> Guys, anyone every used sublime2 or brackets ?
  430. # [16:32] <zettam> I'm trying to pick a good text editor for web development&design
  431. # [16:32] <zettam> those two were the ones that are suggested (or hyped) the most
  432. # [16:33] <zettam> so well, wouldl love to hear your thıyghtrs
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  434. # [16:35] <Garbee> zettam, Brackets is still in development, but has promise. ST is stable and used by a lot of developers.
  435. # [16:35] <zettam> well, is it good to go with
  436. # [16:35] <zettam> or would you recommend anything else ?
  437. # [16:35] <Jayflux> zettam yes
  438. # [16:35] <ironfroggy> you can always use VIM ;-)
  439. # [16:36] <zettam> vim needs linux-like setup to use O__O
  440. # [16:36] <Garbee> If you can deal with buggy/incomplete software, then use Brackets. If you don't want to deal with many bugs or very frequent updating, go with ST.
  441. # [16:36] <zettam> its like 3d studio max of text editors
  442. # [16:36] <Garbee> I'm sure the update cycle will slow down once Brackets gets stable though.
  443. # [16:36] <zettam> Garbee: ST will be my weapon of choice, then.
  444. # [16:36] <zettam> well loved some stuff about brackets
  445. # [16:36] <Garbee> Right now they are doing sprints, so every two or three weeks there is an update.
  446. # [16:36] <zettam> just not sure if it's an equivalent of ST
  447. # [16:37] <Garbee> Brackets has some *awesome* features in it. But most can be replicated in ST.
  448. # [16:37] <Garbee> Via plugins. ^^
  449. # [16:37] <zettam> ^^
  450. # [16:37] <zettam> I see
  451. # [16:37] <Garbee> The cool thing with Brackets is it *is* web technologies building it.
  452. # [16:37] <zettam> one thing that I'm looking for is
  453. # [16:37] <zettam> an autocomplete for JS
  454. # [16:37] <zettam> there is none in ST
  455. # [16:37] <zettam> as I could find...
  456. # [16:37] <zettam> I mean, there are some, btut they dont autocomplete many things
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  458. # [16:37] <Garbee> JS autocomplete is tricky. There may be a package in Package Control for it.
  459. # [16:37] <Jayflux> zettam Aptana studio 3 has that
  460. # [16:38] <Jayflux> although they call it content assist
  461. # [16:38] <zettam> Jayflux: Yes I've checked it too, but it has some faults too
  462. # [16:38] <zettam> its not complete as well
  463. # [16:38] <Garbee> zettam, Everything will have faults.
  464. # [16:38] <zettam> I guess so.. ^^
  465. # [16:38] <Jayflux> zettam what are the faults?
  466. # [16:38] <Garbee> Autocompletion is a very complicated task.
  467. # [16:38] <zettam> Jayflux: not completing some things
  468. # [16:38] <Garbee> Well, for JS it can be anyways.
  469. # [16:38] <zettam> but only complete some
  470. # [16:39] <Garbee> And other programming languages. HTML it is pretty simple.
  471. # [16:39] <zettam> Garbee: what
  472. # [16:39] <zettam> is so special about js
  473. # [16:39] <zettam> that can't be easily autocompleted --
  474. # [16:39] <zettam> I mean, most of the languages and scripts has it
  475. # [16:39] <Garbee> zettam, What kind of autocompletion are you talking about?
  476. # [16:39] <zettam> I've seen none with js yet
  477. # [16:40] <Garbee> I think I may be thinking of it differently than you are.
  478. # [16:40] <zettam> con ---- could be autocompleted to context, for example
  479. # [16:40] <zettam> without having to type it at first
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  481. # [16:40] <Jayflux> zettam the content assist in aptana is probably the best you're gonna get, they even include jquery auto complete now too
  482. # [16:40] <Jayflux> If thats still not good enough, im not sure how much auto completion you want
  483. # [16:41] <zettam> haha
  484. # [16:41] <zettam> ok thanks for the answers
  485. # [16:41] <Garbee> Ah I see. CodeIntel would be the plugin you'd be looking for I bet. But it can be buggy.
  486. # [16:41] <zettam> I'll go dig more about sublime
  487. # [16:41] <zettam> Garbee: yes, I've tried it too
  488. # [16:41] <zettam> doenst work many times
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  490. # [16:41] <Garbee> As I said.. Buggy.
  491. # [16:41] <Garbee> It is really an abandoned project by the initial devs.
  492. # [16:41] <zettam> :/
  493. # [16:42] <Garbee> They don't have the time to fix it up, but no one else really wants to (or possibly knows) they need help.
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  496. # [16:42] <Garbee> So, I consider it vaporware at this point.
  497. # [16:42] <ironfroggy> Does anyone know why a FileList can't be created directly?
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  603. # [19:32] <ruz1> Zzzzzzzz
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  607. # [19:34] <ruz1> is it possible to style the controls bar of the video tag?
  608. # [19:34] <ruz1> i need to make his width smaller
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  694. # [21:19] <guy> can q element be styled as a block element or should I use blockquote instead? it somehow doesn't make sense to use blockquote for one sentence. (content: product reviews)
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  697. # [21:21] <tw2113> couldn't you just set q { display: block; } ?
  698. # [21:22] <tw2113> i like that it auto quotes
  699. # [21:23] <boogyman> tw2113: CSS is for cosmetics, so sure
  700. # [21:25] <tw2113> hopefully i helped guy
  701. # [21:26] <boogyman> but that's really a question for #css
  702. # [21:26] <guy> my question is should I do that or should I default to using blockquote
  703. # [21:27] <guy> I know I can infuece the style whatever way I want.
  704. # [21:27] <tw2113> well, q is meant for inline quoting
  705. # [21:27] <guy> though HTML5 specs define q .. exactly what you've said.
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  707. # [21:27] <tw2113> something in the middle of the paragraph, from what i can see
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  709. # [21:27] <guy> I will just use blockquote and use q styling+block
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  712. # [21:28] <guy> just finished reading through http://html5doctor.com/element-index/. didn't know about 2 elements. was wrong about one.
  713. # [21:29] <tw2113> kudos for researching
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  722. # [22:00] <boogyman> guy: you need at least 1 flow level element between the <blockquote> and the <q>, so <blockquote><p>foo <q>bar</blockquote>
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  724. # [22:01] <guy> boogyman: That's not true.
  725. # [22:01] <guy> Well.. that is to say, based on html5 doctor article. http://html5doctor.com/blockquote-q-cite/
  726. # [22:02] <boogyman> hmm, must've changed
  727. # [22:03] <tw2113> when in doubt, check the spec
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  730. # [22:06] <boogyman> Permitted contents - Flow content (meaning "block")
  731. # [22:06] <boogyman> so it hasn't changed
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  733. # [22:08] <guy> boogyman: I am not saying it is forbidden. I am saying that is not required
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  735. # [22:08] <boogyman> according to the spec it is required, and actually forbidden to only include Phrasing content (meaning "inline")
  736. # [22:09] <tw2113> ah semantics
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  738. # [22:10] <boogyman> I am sure that the implementers (browsers) will support it, but hopefully they put their browser in Quirks mode
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  740. # [22:13] <boogyman> ack! let me back up... also according to the spec, Phrasing content is considered Flow content, so retract what I previously stated
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  744. # [22:14] <wolfman2000> Afternoon. Does anyone know if a <canvas> be made scrollable, and still allow for drawing on the canvas even when the dimensions are not...well, visible?
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  749. # [22:33] <wolfman2000> ...nevermind. For some reason, <canvas> automatically handles what I want there.
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  751. # [22:35] <roymartin2> are great such as the live preview.
  752. # [22:36] <roymartin2> Zettam > Brackets is a great work in progress editor and it works pretty well if you're just working on front-end sites. You can watch a full tutorial of sprint 17 here - http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/tools-and-tips/a-peek-at-brackets/ .
  753. # [22:37] <roymartin2> As they say and I agree with it's very much in it's early phases so you're going to run into limitations. That said, if you are a front-end developer and want to hack away you can customize and work on it. There are already quite a few extensions and some of the feature
  754. # [22:37] <roymartin2> are great such as the live preview.
  755. # [22:37] <roymartin2> I switch between Sublime, Textmate and still my favorite Asana which is now Titanium Builder. Titanium was bloated before because it's an eclipse based editor packaged up with all the standard web development plugins that you'd want to get started.
  756. # [22:37] <roymartin2> I still like this platform the best as an all around editor and tend to live in there for most of my daily work. You can download it for free at http://www.appcelerator.com/ . Of course if you're not interested in their Mobile Development platform you're going to
  757. # [22:39] <roymartin2> hope that's helpful. It's always what works best for your situation in the end. Sorry for the flood but I didn't get the 'message too large' notices until I typed everything out
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  779. # [23:30] <guy> reading http://html5doctor.com/the-section-element/ is sounds like section can be used for every individual review on a website
  780. # [23:30] <guy> is that true?
  781. # [23:30] <guy> "section is a blob of content that you could store as an individual record in a database. It generally looks like this (and note that the heading goes inside the section element, not immediately before it):"
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  795. # [23:58] <linelevel> Hi, is it possible for me to display images stored on my server within a HTML5 canvas?
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