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# [00:11] <asidjazz> can anyone tell me why this doesnt animate back up? http://jsfiddle.net/GkDmy/4/
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# [10:00] <bretolius> Newbie question: Is it appropriate to add microdata to atom feeds?
# [10:00] <tantek> what's the problem you're trying to solve?
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# [10:09] <bretolius> Learning about HTML and the tools available to me
# [10:10] <bretolius> and best practices... things of that nature.
# [10:11] <bretolius> HTML5*
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# [10:20] <bretolius> Just doing some more reading here.... I guess its sort of a silly question
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# [10:29] <tantek> bretolius - what would make more sense is that in your HTML5 - markup your blog with hAtom #microformats
# [10:30] <bretolius> I'm reading about hAtom right now ;)
# [10:30] <tantek> great! feel free to ask any questions about it in #microformats
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# [10:32] <bretolius> aaaaaaand that is not a room
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# [10:34] <tantek> bretolius - huh? It is! I'm in #microformats right now!
# [10:34] <tantek> (presumably just clicking that in your IRC client should work)
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# [10:35] <bretolius> oh weird
# [10:35] <bretolius> sorry, ZNC or colloquy is doing something weird.
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# [12:25] <booom> can i use this : <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=0">
# [12:25] <booom> ?
# [12:25] <booom> or i need this : <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0">
# [12:25] <booom> ?
# [12:25] <booom> i would like the min zoom possible
# [12:25] <booom> so 0 or 0.1 ?
# [12:25] <booom> :D
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# [12:28] <booom> ?? :O
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# [13:42] <mstalfoort> paulrouget, i agree
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# [14:07] <kerozene> well I think it's cute
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# [14:08] <sander^work> How do I select the first td regardless if it's in a thead or tbody? "tr:first-child td:first-child" selects two elements when I have both <thead> and <tbody> in my table.
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# [14:09] <sander^work> Both the first td in <thead> and the first elememnt in <tbody> gets selected
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# [14:10] <kerozene> sander^work: short answer: using javascript
# [14:10] <kerozene> there's no LIMIT clause in css
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# [14:14] <sander^work> kerozene, so it's not possible to use first-child some way to limit it?
# [14:17] <kerozene> hm. maybe thead:first-child tr:first-child td:first-child, tbody:first-child tr:first-child td:first-child {}
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# [14:17] <kerozene> actually td:first-of-type
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# [14:26] <sander^work> kerozene, first-of-type dosnt work.
# [14:27] <kerozene> ok
# [14:28] <kerozene> thead:first-child can probably be just thead also btw
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# [14:29] <sander^work> kerozene, I don't want to care about if the tr is inside a thead tbody or not
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# [14:30] <kerozene> I know, that's why the group selector
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# [14:57] <sander^work> kerozene, I don't think you get me. I have several tables, one with both tbody and thead, and another one with only tbody. I want to create a generic rule to style the first td in both tables.
# [14:58] <sander^work> And that is by adding a border-top-left-radius: 5px;
# [14:58] <kerozene> I know you don't think I get you. there isn't much more I can do about that
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# [14:59] <kerozene> tds in thead sounds strange to me anyway
# [15:00] <sander^work> i'm using th inside thead
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# [15:12] <kerozene> but also td, right?
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# [15:15] <Mosselmaniac> hi all, what do you guys think of html5 boilerplate?
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# [16:34] <lduros> hi, is there a way to make images adaptive (scaling them for different devices, with responsive design) with canvas?
# [16:34] <lduros> thought maybe someone would point me toward an existing js library for this purpose maybe?:-)
# [16:35] <j0___> i don't think you need to use canvas to do that, but you certainly could
# [16:35] <lduros> j0___: what would you use then? CSS with a width of 100% and resizing it with js?
# [16:36] <lduros> or different sets of the same image and changing the src dynamically?
# [16:36] <j0___> depending on your device support needs, you can set an image as the background of a div or something, and set the css to a height/width and position & background-size: cover, and scale that with your breakpoints.
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# [16:37] <j0___> you really don't need js even
# [16:37] <lduros> j0___: yeh ... setting it as a div background makes it less like content and more like decoration though no?
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# [16:37] <lduros> not for people but maybe for services that visit the page,
# [16:37] <j0___> yeah, i've had that problem before
# [16:38] <lduros> but yeh, definitely worth considering
# [16:38] <j0___> i just had them as img tags
# [16:38] <lduros> gotcha
# [16:38] <j0___> then in js, hid them and set the background of a replacement div
# [16:38] <lduros> you can have an <img src="">, then have javascript take that value and apply it in css
# [16:38] <lduros> right
# [16:38] <lduros> :-)
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# [16:38] <j0___> yeah, though i'm pretty sure people would frown on that (it seems kinda hacky)
# [16:39] <j0___> worked for me though...
# [16:39] <lduros> right, besides I dunno how heavy the dom manipulation would be if you have lots of images :-)
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# [18:48] <vuln> Those moving pieces in site are CSS or HTML5?
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# [20:38] <blitz128> Hello people
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# [20:39] <blitz128> anyone know how to embedded HTML audio to a site? The audio also needs to stream from Spotify.
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# [21:51] <Kuifje> !audio
# [21:51] <Kuifje> .audio
# [21:51] <Kuifje> !help
# [21:51] <Kuifje> !help audio
# [21:52] <Kuifje> blitz128, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/Element/audio
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# [22:16] <Moo-_-> blitz128: does spotify allow third party streaming?
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# [22:23] <David_Bradbury> I don't imagine they would - If they did, they'd likely provide an API
# [22:24] <David_Bradbury> It looks like they have one, but it is for retrieving information - Not for streaming music
# [22:24] <David_Bradbury> There is also the Spotify Play Button which will generate code for you - https://developer.spotify.com/technologies/spotify-play-button/
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# [22:47] <Moo-_-> David_Bradbury: so this goes to category "I have this impossible business requirements please help me"? :)
# [22:48] <anonychus> hi
# [22:49] <anonychus> i can increase the default size of storing in web storage of 5 mg to 20 mg in google chrome?
# [22:51] <Moo-_-> anonychus: like by editing chrome settings?
# [22:51] <anonychus> i can don't
# [22:51] <anonychus> i can to do this?
# [22:51] <Moo-_-> unlikely
# [22:53] <anonychus> and then i can to do this?
# [22:53] <anonychus> or how i can to do this?
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# [22:54] <anonychus> or which browser i can to use for this?
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# [22:56] <David_Bradbury> Moo-_-: Possibly under the category of "I want to steal data to either make easy money or to otherwise do something that's clearly illegal" as well
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# [22:59] <Moo-_-> anonychus: no you cannot do it
# [22:59] <David_Bradbury> What are you trying to store that needs 20mb?
# [22:59] <Moo-_-> anonychus: if you want more storage you probably can create something like Google Chrome Extension
# [22:59] <Moo-_-> but normal website, nope
# [22:59] <anonychus> Moo-_-: and as mozilla firefox?
# [23:00] <anonychus> or other browser?
# [23:00] <David_Bradbury> It would be better if we knew what you were trying to do - That said, I'm pretty sure 5mb is the limit for all modern browsers
# [23:00] <Moo-_-> anonychus: you can find out somewhere in developer.mozilla.org
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# [23:00] <anonychus> ok thanks
# [23:01] <David_Bradbury> I think I may have turned invisible
# [23:02] <mildfate> I'm very new to html5 and used to work in iWeb. One thing that was cool about iWeb was that I could drag and drop a picture into the interface and then move the picture around to a spot I want relative to the background. Is there a way to do this in html5 without a bunch of spaces or tabs before an img tag (if I wanted the image to be towards the right), some sort of standard practice so I can place the images wherever?
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# [23:03] <Moo-_-> mildfate: http://css-tricks.com/absolute-positioning-inside-relative-positioning/
# [23:03] <David_Bradbury> CSS. If you want it on top of the page, use position: absolute to position it. If you want to have it be in the background, use background-position
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