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  119. # [02:52] <skcin7> So, apparently, in HTML5 you can omit the <html>, <head>, and <body> tags? I am just learning this now. It seems so strange to leave them out, but I like it better this way. It's much easier!
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  123. # [02:56] <cgcardona> skcin7: they are implied
  124. # [02:56] <cgcardona> i think that was in HTML4 as well
  125. # [02:56] <cgcardona> not sure
  126. # [02:56] <cgcardona> but yea <li>, <p>, <div>, <dt>, <head>, <body>, <html>
  127. # [02:56] <cgcardona> a couple more probably
  128. # [02:57] <skcin7> Not sure about HTML4. I know the HTML5 specification specifically says which tags can be omitted and in which situations.
  129. # [02:58] <asher^> not in html4, but the browers compensated for it, which is why they allow it in html5
  130. # [02:58] <skcin7> I always got the doctypes confused in HTML4. So glad we don't have to worry about that anymore. :)
  131. # [02:58] <asher^> i omit certain closing tags now, as long as your html is properly indented it works well. stuff like </li> and </option>
  132. # [02:59] <moo-_-> asher^: also omit ""
  133. # [02:59] <moo-_-> unneeded
  134. # [02:59] <moo-_-> in most cases
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  136. # [02:59] <skcin7> I am starting to omit tags like that, asher^. It's still a little strange to me, but I'm slowly making the transition. It's definitely better to omit them, in my opinion.
  137. # [02:59] <asher^> i like keeping "" in
  138. # [02:59] <moo-_-> and watch your tools blow like french atol
  139. # [02:59] <skcin7> I also keep "" in.
  140. # [02:59] <asher^> skcin7 for stuff like the above when its basically in a list, yeah its nice to omit them
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  142. # [02:59] <moo-_-> wussies. Take HTML5 to 110%! :)
  143. # [03:00] <asher^> moo-_- i dont like inconsistency. i wouldnt want to have some with "" and some without, thats messy to me
  144. # [03:00] <skcin7> LOL yeah I guess I'm only taking HTML5 to about 95% and not 110% like moo-_- is. :)
  145. # [03:01] <moo-_-> asher^: it's more wrist friendly :)
  146. # [03:01] <moo-_-> you save 3 months from your upcoming carpal tunnel syndrome
  147. # [03:02] <skcin7> Carpal tunnel :-/
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  149. # [03:02] <skcin7> Never had to go through that before, thankfully.
  150. # [03:02] <asher^> i get some form of rsi in my wrists sometimes, chaging my mouse helped a lot though
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  153. # [03:04] <skcin7> I've been following most of the HTML/CSS code guide on this page: http://google-styleguide.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/htmlcssguide.xml
  154. # [03:04] <skcin7> It's worth a few minutes to check out IMO. By no means is it the "correct" way to do things, though.
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  156. # [03:05] <skcin7> But thats what I follow for the most part for the sake of consistency in my code.
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  165. # [03:20] <schpengle> good lord
  166. # [03:21] <schpengle> I just looked at that link.... what on earth is that?
  167. # [03:21] <schpengle> I dont think it rendered correctly here.....a large page of tag elements for the google styleguide thing
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  184. # [03:48] <skcin7> LOL schpengle
  185. # [03:48] <skcin7> He left. :(
  186. # [03:49] <skcin7> Silly question, but what does <div> stand for? How did it get named that?
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  377. # [11:21] <Scrat> I have a text input with a keypress handler checking for enter. On IE the keypress slips through and also presses another button on the page. I have tried to stop it with stopPropagation and cancelBubble but nothing. any ideas?
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  381. # [11:29] <Scrat> solved by adding type="button" to the <button> next to it
  382. # [11:30] <Scrat> thanks for wasting 1 hour of my life yet again IE
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