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- # [00:01] <myndzi> i'm trying to fix a library that's not really conducive to 'proper' html5 parsing to deal with optional end tags more robustly
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- # [00:02] <myndzi> i've been reading over the parsing definition, and while it is extremely detailed and thorough (and therefore excellent for implementation from scratch)
- # [00:02] <myndzi> i am having a hell of a time coming up with some simple rules about how to insert implicit end tags that i can actually implement into this code
- # [00:02] <myndzi> does anybody have an in-depth understanding of how this whole thing works?
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- # [00:04] <myndzi> i don't have to properly render the html, so i can do things like ignoring formatting tags (and therefore the entire bit about reordering them)
- # [00:04] <myndzi> i'm thinking that a simple rule may be something like, "when the end tag doesn't match the open tag, pop all open tags with optional closing tags until it matches" (or error/ignore it)
- # [00:05] <myndzi> also a list of open tags that imply the close of other tags
- # [00:05] <myndzi> td, for example
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- # [03:06] * milleja46 hates trying to mess with tables html X-(
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- # [03:16] <AskMP> • milleja46 What do you hate about them?
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- # [03:17] <milleja46> just trying to convert a layout in a theme I'm writing from tables to sections and all that...but I never have understood them and thought i got away from them when I learned css XD
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- # [03:18] <AskMP> Think of them like a grid system.
- # [03:19] <AskMP> Take Bootstrap for instance as a comparison.
- # [03:19] <AskMP> the table would be the container
- # [03:19] <AskMP> a tr would be a row
- # [03:19] <AskMP> a td is a column
- # [03:20] <AskMP> Granted, there are a lot more things you should be doing with a table.
- # [03:21] <AskMP> Such as wrapping the header and body in thead, tbody
- # [03:21] <milleja46> well still would rather not have a table for a forum layout like is always used
- # [03:21] <AskMP> Oh…
- # [03:21] <AskMP> yea
- # [03:21] <AskMP> no
- # [03:21] <AskMP> That sucks
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- # [03:22] <AskMP> Contain your elements within a dom element and then within a label.
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- # [03:22] <milleja46> I mean it never fails phpbb uses it, and I'm pretty sure if I inspected some of the others they would use the same XD
- # [03:22] <AskMP> This will give you better control over widths and height.s
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- # [03:22] <AskMP> They only use tables for structuring their forms.
- # [03:22] <AskMP> They don’t use if for positioning and the layout.
- # [03:22] <AskMP> They section everything out by tables.
- # [03:22] <AskMP> Which is very 90’
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- # [03:23] <milleja46> yea but I'd rather use header, col, and row(because yes I do use bootstrap)
- # [03:23] <AskMP> Wait… are you creating a table of data though?
- # [03:23] <AskMP> Or are you building a form?
- # [03:25] <milleja46> well...just wanting to convert the way this is built from a table to something that would make more sense to use say tags and classes that could do the same thing
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- # [03:27] <AskMP> Gotcha
- # [03:27] <milleja46> and I don't really consider a discussion board to be a form
- # [03:29] <AskMP> I agree, it should be a running set of sections. Or if you want to get very semantic, a list of comments… but that would be a bit over the top.
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- # [03:35] <milleja46> well I'm going on this thought process even looking at the topics and categories tpl's for my theme where I just copied the default tpl's from the forum module and figured I could customize it easily to fit what I thought it should be
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- # [07:31] <Gahhruuba> Hows it going everyone?
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- # [07:32] <eindoofus> !books
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- # [07:33] <eindoofus> sorry, does any know of a good place to start learning the world of html5 after knowing javascript?
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- # [07:36] <SlexAxton> html5rocks.com
- # [07:36] <SlexAxton> or html5r0cks.com
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- # [10:30] <timtux> Mellangårdsrea
- # [10:30] <timtux> oh sorry wrong chan
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- # [10:34] <Kolombiken> timtux lol
- # [10:34] <Kolombiken> wrong month too
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- # [10:35] <timtux> Kolombiken: not for mellanGÅRDsrea
- # [10:35] <timtux> höhö
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- # [16:08] <dragoonis> My data in my system is UTF8 but on the webpage it's coming up with mad characters. My charset is being declared like this
- # [16:08] <dragoonis> <head>
- # [16:08] <dragoonis> <meta charset="utf-8">
- # [16:08] <dragoonis> Is there more I can do ?
- # [16:08] <dragoonis> The output is something like
- # [16:08] <dragoonis> <p>Appareils photos numériques et Cie</p>
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- # [16:38] <AskMP> Morning all c|_|
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- # [16:44] <alias> hi
- # [16:44] <alias> anyone use knockout.js?
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- # [17:35] <xyz> hi, i have created site same like this: http://www.fiestahomes.in/property.html jst for sample.but, I cudnt create space btw menu buttons and tab. can anyone help me?
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- # [18:34] <eindoofus> For someone who knows javascript, what is the best resource for learning and using the technologies that are part of HTML5?
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- # [20:27] <eindoofus> yup, I eventually saw that. lol
- # [20:28] <eindoofus> what is the best link for a html5 newb to start with?
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- # [21:24] <foucist> i'm encountering a weird issue with video in html5, both safari & firefox are unable to load the corresponding m4v or ogv.. inspect shows the files are getting 403 forbidden
- # [21:24] <foucist> but if i go to the files directly, there's no issue
- # [21:28] <foucist> http://pastie.org/6074144
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- # [21:59] <aguuu> This is strange. Why won't the play video button link load another page as it should? It's not doing anything! https://dl.dropbox.com/u/9535762/bizoogo/new/index.html
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- # [22:56] <AskMP> @aguuu Try moving your main.js to load at the bottom of the page. the document.ready seems to be running prior to the link being rendered.
- # [22:57] <AskMP> Also, $.lightBox() doesn’t seem to exist.
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- # [23:18] <Bustacap> Using the <audio> tag, can I set the src as a result from a php script?
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- # [23:26] <AskMP> Bustacap: Are you talking like source code or reference to a file?
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- # [23:32] <rgb247> is there any way to force ie browser to render in a different way?
- # [23:33] <rgb247> a javascript library or something else..
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- # [23:42] <Bustacap> AskMP, I wrote a php script to pick a random song from a list, and I just want the audio src to be the result of the php's selection.
- # [23:43] <AskMP> so when you are writing the page, just php echo the variable in the src attribute.
- # [23:44] <AskMP> Granted, this is more of a PHP question than an HTML5 one though…
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- # [23:50] <Bustacap> AskMP, I've just never tried to use a php variable as a src of anything. Sounds like something that would involve a lot of quotation marks in perfect places :P
- # [23:53] <AskMP> Bustacap: I’ve moved the conversation to a DM window, let’s keep the HTML5 room for HTML5
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