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- # [00:27] <amatecha> hahaha, ben` I hope you're joking!
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- # [04:11] <v1510n> what's the best way to transfer an object using the drag and drop api?
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- # [14:11] <Ov3rTaf> seeking game engine html5/canvas for making board games easily ... any points ? :)
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- # [15:08] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: you are niche. most people want to build next minecraft or 3d shooter ;)
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- # [15:08] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: of course, you need the server...
- # [15:09] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: http://voxeljs.com/ comes with some server stuff, but it's designed for quake style
- # [15:09] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: try more low level thing: search pubsub javascript and javascript websockets
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- # [16:02] <Ov3rTaf> what about limeJS ? :)
- # [16:02] <Ov3rTaf> want to make games 4 kids
- # [16:03] <Ov3rTaf> puzzles and such :)
- # [16:03] <Ov3rTaf> hangman ... :)
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- # [16:32] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: limejs looks good
- # [16:32] <moo-_-> had not seen it before
- # [16:32] <jonestoun> hi
- # [16:34] <Ov3rTaf> ^^
- # [16:34] <Ov3rTaf> hi jonestoun
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- # [16:34] <jonestoun> hi
- # [16:34] <Ov3rTaf> moo-_- had a kick search on game engines ^^
- # [16:35] <Ov3rTaf> this on looks good :)
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- # [16:35] <moo-_-> Ov3rTaf: check out this for platformers http://buildnewgames.com/game-engine-comparison/
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- # [17:27] <roy___> Something weird happens and i don't understand .. Google just grabs some random text of the page to show with my site in the listings and doesn't show what i put in the meta description tag ?
- # [17:27] <moo-_-> roy___: it takes time for google to reindex
- # [17:27] <moo-_-> it's not instant
- # [17:27] <moo-_-> roy___: use Google Webmaster tools to check how google bot sees your site
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- # [17:31] <roy___> moo-_-: But the site i uploaded is completely new its not an update or anything and i included the meta tags from the start and i also used webmaster tools to report all pages to google
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- # [17:47] <Octupus3> Hello mates, i want to use html5 for getting data from a video, like track a pixel in the video, what is the best way to do that?
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- # [17:49] <Jon47> Octupus3: track a pixel?
- # [17:49] <Octupus3> Jon47: track it's coordinates with time
- # [17:50] <Jon47> Octupus3: you got a row to hoe my friend
- # [17:50] <Octupus3> Jon47: i'm not sure what you mean
- # [17:51] <Jon47> i mean i think you've got a large task ahead of you
- # [17:51] <Octupus3> anyways, just let's say simple image processing
- # [17:51] <moo-_-> Octupus3: webrtc
- # [17:51] <moo-_-> they getUsermedia()
- # [17:51] <moo-_-> they have a related demos, I think
- # [17:52] <Jon47> are you saying that you want to analyze each frame of video and locate a particular area that looks the same in each one, and then analyze the movement of that area across frames?
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- # [17:52] <Octupus3> Jon47: exactly
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- # [17:53] <Jon47> good luck with that
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- # [17:53] <Jon47> is the video compressed at all?
- # [17:53] <moo-_-> Jon47: it's possible - I have seen
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- # [17:53] <moo-_-> Octupus3: though with HTML5 / Javascript your processing power is more limited
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- # [17:54] <Octupus3> moo-_-: Jon47: at the end i want to port the application for phonegap for it to work in android and iOS
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- # [17:54] <Octupus3> so that would be a big difficulty?
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- # [17:54] <moo-_-> Octupus3: I suggest you build this kind of application using native APIs
- # [17:55] <Octupus3> would that be more time-consuming than using an image-processing library?
- # [17:55] <moo-_-> Octupus3: due to advanced processing you need you won't find HTML5 good match for your use case
- # [17:56] <Octupus3> i don't want to show a video for people on there phones, just wanted to have the pixel location saved 30 times per second
- # [17:56] <Octupus3> it's not a problem if it is slow
- # [17:57] <Octupus3> i can allow a minute for the result to come out
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- # [17:57] <moo-_-> Octupus3: I still suggest you use native APIs
- # [17:57] <moo-_-> Octupus3: because it would be easier
- # [17:57] <moo-_-> you have better access over pixel data
- # [17:58] <moo-_-> especially what comes to realtime application
- # [17:58] <moo-_-> in phones
- # [17:58] <moo-_-> webkit engines are so shitty that they make IE6 look like a modern browser
- # [17:58] <Octupus3> ok, so the best to do now is use native iOS (xcode and objC) and then use (android java) and create two from scratch?
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- # [17:59] <moo-_-> Octupus3: you can share C/C++ core across both devices
- # [17:59] <Octupus3> something like opencv or something?
- # [17:59] <moo-_-> something
- # [18:00] <moo-_-> many people use opencv, but I don't know if it has mobile ports
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- # [18:18] <DoctorMonocular> hey everyone
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- # [18:21] <rohanrhu> hi
- # [18:22] <rohanrhu> how do i make stroke for canvas text?
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- # [18:25] <moo-_-> rohanrhu: there is API but it was not supported by all browsres
- # [18:26] <moo-_-> rohanrhu: stackoverflow.com should a q about this
- # [18:26] <moo-_-> API / library, cannot remember
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- # [23:47] <brainwarped> I'm working on developing a site that uses a full-screen background image with some fixed position attributes overlayed. The background image must load based on the resolution and browser window size (css media queries). Also, it the image must reload based on detecting a change in the browser window size (ie, maximizing a window or changing the view on an iphone from portrait to landscape).
- # [23:47] <brainwarped> The last requirement is when the user zooms. I want to create a focal point that the user zooms "onto", with no possibility of the user zooming further than when that dimension hits a browser border. I'm willing to use html, css and python server side. Anyone have an example of this, or know how can I do this??
- # [23:51] <brainwarped> I'm guessing this would be a hard effect to achieve, given that godaddy's site builder and likeness.com have issues with zooming and resizing.
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