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  15. # [00:30] <moo-_-> gp: can you post a mock up image online? one picture tells more than thousand lines of IRC chat :)
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  50. # [01:30] <mfilipe> I'm using the yepnope.js but I'm trying use the auto create key when I pass an url in yep property.
  51. # [01:31] <mfilipe> but it doesn't create the correct auto-key with the name of the file like was said in documentation
  52. # [01:31] <mfilipe> http://pastebin.com/64wg7TJH
  53. # [01:32] <mfilipe> in the callback section I informed the "2" key, because it works
  54. # [01:32] <mfilipe> but I wanna inform "jquery.min.js"
  55. # [01:32] <mfilipe> what is wrong?
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  69. # [01:54] <moo-_-> mfilipe: if you want to support for a particular framework, please ask from the framework authors
  70. # [01:54] <moo-_-> mfilipe: usually folks here discuss about HTML5 technologies, developing them and this is rarely useful support forum for a $random_product
  71. # [01:55] <mfilipe> moo-_-: ok, sorry
  72. # [01:55] <moo-_-> mfilipe: or... you wouldn't get any answers here, so I suggest go to stackoverflow.com :)
  73. # [01:56] <mfilipe> ;)
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  75. # [02:03] <experiMINT> hey uh. what's the main diff between html 5 and what we have now?
  76. # [02:04] <experiMINT> like. with xhtml etc etc
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  202. # [05:37] <SrPx> Is there any trustable 100% free web host?
  203. # [05:37] <tw2113> you get what you pay for
  204. # [05:37] <tw2113> unless you self host
  205. # [05:37] <tw2113> then you get what you know how to handle
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  232. # [06:44] <rowin_> SrPx: If someone tells you they are 100% free and trustworthy you have to ask what they are making money from to sustain themselves
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  242. # [07:00] <thisissam> hello everyone
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  244. # [07:02] <thisissam> i just wanted to here, some of the best resources, in order to start with whole amazing web features and stuff! ofcourse web is web, but i want to here the answer from whole amazing geeky people here
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  286. # [08:22] <myndzi> i'm trying to filter what's allowed to be dropped on an element based on the data supplied
  287. # [08:22] <myndzi> but it seems like no matter what i do, if the event exists, the drag icon shows it's okay while the only way to make it give me the 'not okay' icon when dragging is not to define the event
  288. # [08:22] <myndzi> what am i looking for?
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  817. # [09:12] <ontime> Any good guides on mobile website development? Thanks in advance.
  818. # [09:13] <ontime> (and yes, google does help, but it makes more sense to find a reasonably up-to-date way to present a mobile website, rather than wasting time with older conventions that won't produce very good results) Thanks again.
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  1031. # [15:21] <gde33|2> Is there some way to point to a file with the md5 hash for a page?
  1032. # [15:21] <gde33|2> one cant include it in the page but a referrence could work
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  1058. # [15:57] <pog> hello
  1059. # [15:58] <pog> I'm just evaluating a "system" where I can make a "not to difficult" game, to simulate a man in interaction with a computer user.
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  1061. # [15:59] <pog> I looked at java, but now I see also html5 and canvas.
  1062. # [16:00] <xec> you mean javascript?
  1063. # [16:00] <pog> yes.
  1064. # [16:02] <pog> I have experience in prgramming, but not particular in java nor javascript.
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  1068. # [16:03] <pog> beside "canvas", are there other technologies for "Browsergames"?
  1069. # [16:04] <xec> depends on the game, really
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  1072. # [16:05] <xec> you can animate any html element... if you want to draw shapes you could look at svg too.
  1073. # [16:05] <pog> I need it for a game, which is used by psychiatrist, resp. for probands. It's not a komplex game, but I have to log some reactions.
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  1075. # [16:06] <pog> i think a datatransfer to a server would be easyly possible out of js?
  1076. # [16:06] <xec> sure
  1077. # [16:07] <pog> on issue is how I can draw a human like figure :-)
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  1079. # [16:08] <xec> use an image? or if you want vector use svg
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  1081. # [16:09] <pog> it needn't be realistic, I could probably make a figure out of vectors.
  1082. # [16:10] <pog> like a cube
  1083. # [16:10] <pog> I have to look at svg
  1084. # [16:10] <mattypants> Hi, what's the right way to mark up an external link with an icon, can I style a 'rel' attribute, such as rel=external ?
  1085. # [16:11] <xec> mattypants: i've just selected links starting with "http" in css with a[href^="http"] { .. }
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  1089. # [16:12] <mikmu> Hey there, semantic question. I have a simple form with a series of label/input pairs
  1090. # [16:13] <mikmu> I would have to enclose each in a tag to manage breaks, spacing etc
  1091. # [16:13] <mattypants> I have a lot of absolute urls that aren't external
  1092. # [16:13] <mikmu> in the past, I would just use a <p> or a <div>
  1093. # [16:13] <mikmu> but I see lots of examples using ul/li.
  1094. # [16:13] <mikmu> Is there a consensus on best practices?
  1095. # [16:14] <mattypants> xec, I see that Wikipedia uses a similar method, is that css widely supported?
  1096. # [16:15] <pog> xec: here I found a nice site, which may help me for my solution http://www.drawastickman.com/
  1097. # [16:15] <xec> mattypants: yes
  1098. # [16:16] <mattypants> xec, Wikipedia does: #content a[href ^="https://"].external - does the external refer to rel="external" or a class?
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  1102. # [16:17] <xec> mattypants: ".external" is a class
  1103. # [16:17] <mattypants> ok, so I would do rel="external" class="external"
  1104. # [16:17] <mattypants> and then just add the external link icon with that class
  1105. # [16:19] <mattypants> ya
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  1108. # [16:20] <mattypants> xec, I just wanted to confirm that I would indeed have to include the class and the rel attribute of 'external'
  1109. # [16:21] <mattypants> seems redundant, was hoping rel's were stylable :D
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  1113. # [16:26] <xec> you don't need either
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  1115. # [16:28] <mattypants> xec, only proble is many internal links are using absolute urls
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  1117. # [16:28] <xec> i see. well, in that case i would fix the links :)
  1118. # [16:29] <xec> alternatively use a class
  1119. # [16:29] <xec> i've only ever used rel="" with <link> tags myself
  1120. # [16:30] <xec> i'm not sure if "external" is a valid value for the rel attribute
  1121. # [16:30] <xec> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/html/master/links.html#linkTypes
  1122. # [16:31] <mattypants> xec, I confirmed that it's valid
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  1125. # [16:33] <xec> yeah i found it on the microformats wiki http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values#HTML5_link_type_extensions
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  1133. # [16:36] <mattypants> xec, are absolute urls for internal links generally discouraged according to standards guidelines, or for convenience when changing dir structures?
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  1136. # [16:39] <xec> mattypants: not sure what the guidelines say, but it sure is convenient ;)
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  1140. # [16:46] <xec> pog: i love that site! thanks for the link
  1141. # [16:47] <xec> anyway, i'm off. good luck, guys
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  1157. # [17:06] <mattypants> later, xec
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  1204. # [18:09] <ingodid> good afternoon all
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  1206. # [18:11] <ingodid> i am using "swfObject" for audio streaming, but it will only send cookies needed for authentication on the first stream.
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  1208. # [18:11] <ingodid> if you let it play a bit and seek back left, it will request WITHOUT the cookies and session data
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  1210. # [18:13] <ingodid> sry -- seems the problem is in the WPaudio Player
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  1214. # [18:14] <moo-_-> inimino: if you seek help with a specific library and want to find persons who can answer your question please contact to that library authors
  1215. # [18:15] <moo-_-> inimino: this is a channel for discussing about HTML5 technology developmennt and it is unlikely no one here will help you
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  1222. # [18:21] <tw2113> unlikely anyone ;)
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  1232. # [18:25] <moo-_-> ah yes
  1233. # [18:25] <moo-_-> double no no
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  1312. # [20:01] <outline> I'm currently looking for front- and back-end developers for a project called outline [dot] com - we build budget simulators for state governments. Think SimCity for real life. Shoot me a message if this sounds interesting. (paid)
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  1349. # [20:25] <AskMP> @paul_irish May I ask what day you plan on getting into Toronto for the jQueryTO this weekend? I run the HTMLToronto group and just wanted to extend a potential hand of greeting or perhaps a beer.
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  1366. # [20:53] <mattypants> is there a method of absolute positioning an element on the x-axis relative to its point at 50% width instead of its point at 1px?
  1367. # [20:55] <Jon47> mattypants: don't think so, you can use percentages though (e.g., left: 50%)
  1368. # [20:56] <Jon47> those percentages being relative to its containing block..
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  1370. # [20:58] <decotii> is there a way to detect is an html5 video has entered fullscreen mode? Ideally, I
  1371. # [20:58] <pglod> this might be the wrong place to ask, but I'm a little confused about indexedDB. When I try to call indexedDB.deleteDatabase('db') after opening a database, it's always blocked for a good 10-20 seconds, even if it doesn't seem like an requests are doing anything.
  1372. # [20:58] <decotii> *I'd like to know as soon as the fullscreen button is selected on a video
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  1378. # [21:06] <mfilipe> what is the best way to store some data in a HTML entity? I have a tag <a> that refers to a image but I wanna inform an external url there too.
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  1380. # [21:07] <mfilipe> through javascript I will change the UI if there is an url or not
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  1382. # [21:09] <mattypants> Jon47, the problem with left:50% on absolute positioned elements is they aren't centered within the last positioned parent since it places the element from its 1px point
  1383. # [21:11] <mattypants> Jon47, it would be nice to horizontally center and absolutely positioned element without measuring each one
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  1388. # [21:18] <Jon47> mattypants: i could imagine a weird hack where you center a single pixel element vertically and horizontally within your container
  1389. # [21:18] <Jon47> and then position your absolute element relative to that
  1390. # [21:19] <gde33|2> I would do it the other way around, make a big container 100% widh with a small one inside
  1391. # [21:19] <gde33|2> can not measure the size of the characters
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  1398. # [21:24] <mattypants> Jon47, gde33|2, thanks, for now I'll just position it left to x=.5(parent) - .5(element)
  1399. # [21:24] <mattypants> too bad arithmetic isn't allowed in css :D
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  1410. # [21:35] <pglod> \wc
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  1412. # [21:37] <decotii> is there any way of detecting if html5 video is in fullscreen mode???
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  1446. # [22:09] <gde33|2> decotii: put a hidden camera behind the user
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  1448. # [22:12] <moo-_-> decotii: try the first hit here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!mdn+fullscreen
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  1451. # [22:13] <moo-_-> decotii: I suggest you start using duckduckgo.com for web dev specific searches http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/09/25/useful-duckduckgo-searches-for-developers/
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  1484. # [22:37] <decotii> moo-_-: great, thanks.
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  1488. # [22:39] <decotii> I couldn't find much in all my searches, hence the question proposed in here. Ill see what I can do about the hidden camera, not sure if thats supported in all browsers.
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  1507. # [22:49] <tw2113> ooh thanks for that link moo-_-
  1508. # [22:49] <tw2113> <--ddg user
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