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  12. # [00:16] <_ke> as the html5 history api has some caveats in different browser versions and there is no backwards support for older browsers (except when using history.js or similar, which then uses hashes) would you recommend hashes or history api for a single page website?
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  158. # [04:20] <Quebert> Hi guys, can anyone tell me a use case where any of these would be used for http://cl.ly/image/1R2w2p1g0x0s
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  160. # [04:24] <moo-_-> Quebert: entering product key to Windows installer? :)
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  188. # [05:36] <Quebert> hey moo-_- thanks for the input, sorry stepped away from the computer for a sec
  189. # [05:37] <Quebert> so how is this stored in the database? Is each input a different row in the database or is this just a cool way of splitting up one data row for visualization?
  190. # [05:37] <Quebert> e.g. product key is one whole number of many parts so to speak
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  240. # [08:11] <myndzi> i'm trying to target an iframe with a form submission; there are two forms on the page, and it seems that when i submit the second form it's the first one that gets submitted
  241. # [08:11] <myndzi> any idea why that might be?
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  244. # [08:15] <myndzi> nevermind, of course it's my fault :P
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  248. # [08:20] <ItsMeLenny> does anybody know of any open source program that allows to stream webm but does not allow to download the video (like ABC iView)
  249. # [08:20] <ItsMeLenny> (and unlike youtube, as there are ways to download the video from it)
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  267. # [08:54] <llamapixel> ItsMeLenny nothing is ever safe from stream ripping or the analogue hole
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  280. # [09:08] <ItsMeLenny> llamapixel, true, but some sites seem to mask it better than others
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  431. # [12:54] <_ke> as the html5 history api has some caveats in different browser versions and there is no backwards support for older browsers (except when using history.js or similar, which then uses hashes) would you recommend hashes or history api for a single page website?
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  447. # [13:18] <ElGrotto> hiyas.. I have a <div> that contains a <form>. Outside of that <div> I have a second <div> which contains (right now) a <a href=..> link (but I'm happy to change that if need be). (1) is it possible to make that link submit the form; (2) is it possible to make that link submit the form without javascript; and (3) is it possible to make that link submit that form but also add a POST content too? (so I know which link submitted the form)?
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  458. # [13:41] <aQustic> ElGrotto: Basically the answers will be; 1) Yes, with javascript 2) No 3) Yes, with javascript
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  460. # [13:44] <ElGrotto> aQustic: ty :-).. shame, I'd managed to make a very nice noscript-safe site so far. the new html/css is good for many things.. only ran into a couple of things it can't do so far :)
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  492. # [14:29] <Dev0n> how would I get the event of the initial selector? ie. $(something).delegate(...), the event for "something"
  493. # [14:29] <Dev0n> taking the even from function inside delegate only gives the event for that delgate and not the inital selector
  494. # [14:29] <Dev0n> event*
  495. # [14:29] <Dev0n> wrong chan my bad
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  592. # [16:05] <moo-_-> bendman: Buenos Diaz from South America
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  749. # [19:55] <_d4rklit3> hello
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  752. # [19:55] <d4rklit3> is there any known problems with safari and canvas.. I am only using drawImage() and .clearRect() in a frame update. in Safari this causes the browser to crash horribly
  753. # [19:57] <d4rklit3> also only happens on safari on mac
  754. # [20:00] <paul_irish_> ouch
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  759. # [20:05] <d4rklit3> ?
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  772. # [20:14] <hober> d4rklit3: please file a bug at bugs.webkit.org with a reduced test case
  773. # [20:15] <d4rklit3> lol hober
  774. # [20:15] <d4rklit3> im troubleshooting myself
  775. # [20:15] <d4rklit3> its not canvas
  776. # [20:15] <d4rklit3> i am loading a 151 very large png's at once
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  778. # [20:15] <d4rklit3> maybe too many concurrent loads
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  780. # [20:15] <hober> my advice still applies :)
  781. # [20:16] <d4rklit3> well it only happens in safari on mac
  782. # [20:16] <d4rklit3> not chrome
  783. # [20:16] <d4rklit3> and not safari on windows
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  785. # [20:16] <hober> the "new bug" form has platform and OS fields
  786. # [20:17] <d4rklit3> in any case
  787. # [20:17] <d4rklit3> i dont know what the bug is
  788. # [20:17] <d4rklit3> and i don't have time to make a test case
  789. # [20:17] <d4rklit3> i have time to fix it.
  790. # [20:18] <hober> s/fix/work around/
  791. # [20:18] <d4rklit3> ?
  792. # [20:18] <d4rklit3> like submitting a bug ticket for something i can't describe properly is useless
  793. # [20:18] <d4rklit3> i need to figure out whats causing the problem
  794. # [20:18] <d4rklit3> are there error logs for the browser?
  795. # [20:18] <hober> yes, and once you've figured that out, that would make an excellent bug report
  796. # [20:18] <d4rklit3> so i can see where its crashing
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  799. # [20:19] <hober> http://www.webkit.org/quality/crashlogs.html
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  801. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> do itcrap
  802. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> err crap*
  803. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> it doesnt give me any logs
  804. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> because it doesn't "crash"
  805. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> it just locks up
  806. # [20:21] <d4rklit3> and i have to force quit it
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  808. # [20:23] <hober> man spindump
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  810. # [20:24] <d4rklit3> eh?
  811. # [20:24] <d4rklit3> judging by my server console its getting held up on tthe loading
  812. # [20:24] <d4rklit3> i have a preloader
  813. # [20:24] <d4rklit3> that just goes through as many images as there are in the manifest and starts loading them all at once
  814. # [20:24] <d4rklit3> perhaps i need to throttle
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  865. # [21:24] <d4rklit3> hober
  866. # [21:24] <d4rklit3> got to theb ottom of it
  867. # [21:24] <d4rklit3> <video>
  868. # [21:24] <d4rklit3> was doing it
  869. # [21:24] <d4rklit3> i have like 6-7 videos on the page
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  887. # [21:45] <d4rklit3> is there a limit of how many videos can be on the page for safari
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  890. # [21:46] <moo-_-> d4rklit3: test it out?
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  894. # [21:46] <d4rklit3> well
  895. # [21:46] <d4rklit3> anything more than 4 on this page
  896. # [21:46] <d4rklit3> is killing safari savagely
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  925. # [21:59] <bendman> anybody know the webkit css property to make elements not inspectable by chrome dev tools?
  926. # [22:00] <moo-_-> bendman: whyyyyy?
  927. # [22:00] <moo-_-> that would be totally against how web works
  928. # [22:01] <bendman> moo-_-: just for debugging purposes. I'm working with something with transparent layers over it, and it's a pain to need to hide it dynamically just to inspect elements under it
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  930. # [22:01] <moo-_-> bendman: hmm
  931. # [22:01] <moo-_-> maybe write a javascript snippet which you can copy-paste into a console
  932. # [22:01] <moo-_-> and it will hide layers for you
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  934. # [22:02] <bendman> yeah, was just wondering. I could've sworn I saw a css property somewhere that did that. oh well
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  936. # [22:06] <BaNzounet> Hey, can we do <div /> instead of <div></div> if we have nothing to putin inside the balise?
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  946. # [22:12] <moo-_-> BaNzounet: http://stackoverflow.com/a/3558200/315168
  947. # [22:12] <moo-_-> no
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  956. # [22:16] <BaNzounet> moo-_-: Thanks ;)
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  998. # [23:32] <hellyeah> what is the page for tidy up html
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  1006. # [23:47] <David_Bradbury> Is there a specific one you're looking for?
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