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  3. # [00:04] <Elitism> Does anyone in here use initializr/bootstrap/html5boilerplate?
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  225. # [07:04] <Guest77624> hey, can anyone explain me the difference between URL, URI and URN. I googled it and read it on wikipedia also but i am still confused.
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  229. # [07:07] <Elitism> If I have stupid questions about CSS3, can I ask here?
  230. # [07:07] <Elitism> At the cost of my dignity, of course.
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  233. # [07:10] <Guest77624> Elitism: Of course, yes !
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  239. # [07:21] <Elitism> So is float:left/right still a valid CSS attribute? Is that the default for putting an image to the left of text?
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  256. # [07:40] <Elitism> I cannot get this text to float next to an image. It keeps going to the bottom of the image. :[
  257. # [07:42] <tw2113> are you floating the image or the text
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  259. # [07:43] <tw2113> yes they're still valid, so that's not the issue
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  263. # [08:01] <Elitism> tw2113: Sorry about that. I was floating the image. Turns out I was just editing the wrong stylesheet!
  264. # [08:01] <Elitism> Pahaha.
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  289. # [08:45] <Elitism> This image is not behaving in my container element. It only expands/contracts when I add text to the element. Is this because of the float?
  290. # [08:46] <Elitism> The container only expands/contracts*
  291. # [08:46] <mokush> is it possible to make something like this with css alone http://www.artcopycode.com/ ?
  292. # [08:46] <Elitism> And only on the bottom. The top and sides are acting just fine depending on how much text there is, but the bottom of the container keeps changing, and will sometimes be too close to the image.
  293. # [08:47] <Elitism> mokush: It is made in just CSS...?
  294. # [08:47] <Elitism> Or do you mean make the site and its functionality? Looks like it already uses bootstrap.
  295. # [08:47] <mokush> Elitism: it's not. it uses js to move the text containers above the headlines, when the headlines reach the top
  296. # [08:48] <Elitism> Yeah, I see what you mean there. Sorry about that.
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  299. # [08:54] <Elitism> I just set a min-height and it fixed itself.
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  323. # [09:46] <tootNotFromFlute> hi
  324. # [09:46] <tootNotFromFlute> Anyone here good at JS?
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  327. # [09:47] <Elitism> tootNotFromFlute: We can try to help. What are you trying to do, exactly?
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  331. # [09:54] <tootNotFromFlute> Hire you for my project.
  332. # [09:54] <tootNotFromFlute> Pro bono.
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  334. # [09:54] <tootNotFromFlute> No creative input.
  335. # [09:54] <tootNotFromFlute> let's go.
  336. # [09:54] <tootNotFromFlute> Jokes aside, I'm just curious about
  337. # [09:55] <tootNotFromFlute> how to start working with html5's apis
  338. # [09:55] <tootNotFromFlute> cuz most tuts are too JS-oriented
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  340. # [09:55] <tootNotFromFlute> any good resource?
  341. # [09:56] <Elitism> You make a good point. Most web developers are really into javascript handling the bulk of the work in HTML5, when CSS3 is helping take the load off. I am unsure, but if you start with the links in the topic, that might take you somewhere.
  342. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> Well, I don't like the way 99.9% of resources are written
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  344. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> because I find that they waste my time more than they should
  345. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> by not being concise and pedagogic enough
  346. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> so i prefer to jump headfirst into some cool api or whatever
  347. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> and i was wondering if you peeps know of any resources that specifically works with the apis
  348. # [09:57] <tootNotFromFlute> without addressing all the other stuff
  349. # [09:58] <Elitism> Most resources are like that. The only neat APIs I have seen recently are all JSON implementations, though.
  350. # [09:58] <Elitism> Maybe the git community would be a good place for you to look.
  351. # [09:58] <Elitism> (Since most APIs are published there)
  352. # [10:00] <tootNotFromFlute> Well, aren't all HTML5 media elements APIs also?
  353. # [10:01] <tootNotFromFlute> I want to program a HTML5 commandline terminal for starters :)
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  358. # [10:05] <Elitism> tootNotFromFlute: That would be far above my level of experience with HTML5.
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  363. # [10:08] <tootNotFromFlute> Really?
  364. # [10:08] <tootNotFromFlute> I see.
  365. # [10:09] <tootNotFromFlute> Isn't that kind of the point of HTML5 tho?
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  405. # [11:30] <moo-_-> tootNotFromFlute: yes
  406. # [11:30] <moo-_-> also, there are already plenty of HTML5 command line terminals :)
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  412. # [11:42] <tootNotFromFlute> moo-_-: yeah? :)
  413. # [11:42] <tootNotFromFlute> well id like to code one myself i gues
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  427. # [12:04] <tootNotFromFlute> cool :)
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  619. # [17:13] <EHLOVader> bit of a debate going on with my colleagues and online contemporaries. I am sure I know the answer that will come from here, but which is best? :pseudo-elements or the classic background position padding method of iconizing links?
  620. # [17:13] <EHLOVader> I did a quick demo on codepen of what i mean and how each is done (to the best of my knowledge) http://cdpn.io/Fwqlp
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  623. # [17:15] <EHLOVader> my view is the classic works, it makes sense, it doesn't require more than a bit of CSS to make left (pseudo you must know the URL and wipe the :after content class)
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  625. # [17:15] <colonelchlorine> positioning with bgpad looks better
  626. # [17:15] <EHLOVader> and that means that the URL is only included in the CSS once, which is great http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?OnceAndOnlyOnce
  627. # [17:15] <EHLOVader> the doc one didn't have padding
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  629. # [17:15] <EHLOVader> was a friends choice
  630. # [17:15] <colonelchlorine> ah ok
  631. # [17:15] <EHLOVader> the other two had padding
  632. # [17:16] <EHLOVader> I wasn't concerned with the outcome, they both could be fiddled with to appear any way you want, but what was community concensus on the better way
  633. # [17:16] <colonelchlorine> i know it's visually dissimilar and doesn't fit all use cases but have you thought about font icons?
  634. # [17:16] <EHLOVader> I know that is a weird way to word it
  635. # [17:16] <EHLOVader> see that is where I say after and before fit
  636. # [17:16] <EHLOVader> if it isn't an image
  637. # [17:16] <EHLOVader> if it is a character use them
  638. # [17:17] <EHLOVader> if you are putting images I say it should rely on the background position and padding
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