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  355. # [08:43] <tay11> does netflix use html5 for moveis?
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  358. # [08:46] <timtux> tay11: no
  359. # [08:46] <timtux> tay11: silverlight
  360. # [08:47] <timtux> tay11: atleast for the pc/mac version
  361. # [08:49] <tay11> i thought they got rid of silverlight
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  363. # [08:50] <tay11> what do they do for ipads
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  366. # [08:53] <timtux> html5 i think
  367. # [08:53] <timtux> :>
  368. # [08:53] <tay11> oh
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  370. # [08:53] <tay11> is there anyway to protect a video
  371. # [08:54] <tay11> so it cant be downloaded?
  372. # [08:54] <tay11> we want to create a membership site where only members can watch the video
  373. # [08:54] <timtux> Ah, I don't think there's any universal solution
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  376. # [08:56] <timtux> Seems like Chrome has support for the Encrypted Media Extensions. But it isn't enabled by default.
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  378. # [08:57] <tay11> im trying to figureo ut how netflix prevents people from dl the stream
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  733. # [16:27] <agu10^> What deployment tool do you suggest to get my website from windows 8 into my VPS server on ubuntu server?
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  739. # [16:33] <moo-_-> agu10^: github :)
  740. # [16:33] <moo-_-> agu10^: put your codes to version control and deploy from there
  741. # [16:34] <agu10^> ?
  742. # [16:34] <agu10^> how do i deploy from there?
  743. # [16:34] <moo-_-> agu10^: by running a git command in a shell on your VPS server
  744. # [16:34] <agu10^> oh i don't want that
  745. # [16:35] <agu10^> i want to run a command on my development machine
  746. # [16:35] <moo-_-> agu10^: ah ok
  747. # [16:35] <moo-_-> and windows 8 is your development machine?
  748. # [16:35] <agu10^> yes
  749. # [16:35] <moo-_-> hurr durr
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  754. # [16:37] <moo-_-> agu10^: without involving any heavy-weight continuous deployment tool, like Chef, you could do this
  755. # [16:37] <scottkellum> I use middleman for my site and this is how I deploy: https://github.com/tvaughan/middleman-deploy
  756. # [16:37] <moo-_-> scottkellum: windows safe?
  757. # [16:37] <agu10^> moo-_-, do you mean without?
  758. # [16:38] <moo-_-> agu10^: oops look like my message was cut
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  760. # [16:38] <moo-_-> agu10^: you could simply set up SSH public key authentication (no password) and run rsync as a BAT command on Windows
  761. # [16:38] <moo-_-> agu10^: with cygwin or such
  762. # [16:39] <moo-_-> agu10^: like tool suggestedby scottkellum does for you
  763. # [16:39] <scottkellum> Should work in Windows.
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  765. # [16:40] <scottkellum> Site needs to be built with middleman. Is this site flat files?
  766. # [16:40] <moo-_-> agu10^: if you don't like using password to enter your Ubuntu box here are info how to setup public key authentication http://opensourcehacker.com/2012/10/24/ssh-key-and-passwordless-login-basics-for-developers/
  767. # [16:40] <scottkellum> Could just FTP it as well
  768. # [16:40] <agu10^> I'm not using ruby
  769. # [16:40] <moo-_-> scottkellum: I highly recommend not to enable FTP on server
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  771. # [16:40] <agu10^> FTP is not nice because i have to select the files to upload :/
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  773. # [16:41] <agu10^> i'd like to only use git
  774. # [16:41] <agu10^> but idk how
  775. # [16:41] <moo-_-> agu10^: I think for static web site deployments rsync from the command line is the easiest. After you figure out the command you can just press up arrow and enter to redeploy.
  776. # [16:41] <agu10^> ok, i'll try that on windows
  777. # [16:42] <moo-_-> agu10^: not sure how you get rsync and SSH keys on windows, though
  778. # [16:42] <moo-_-> agu10^: but there must be a way
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  780. # [16:43] <agu10^> i use putty
  781. # [16:43] <agu10^> for ssh
  782. # [16:43] <moo-_-> agu10^: it might look like something like this http://www.rsync.net/resources/howto/windows_rsync.html
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  785. # [16:46] <moo-_-> agu10^: or
  786. # [16:46] <moo-_-> maybe you can even make a .BAT file which makes Putty to run git up command on the server for you
  787. # [16:47] <moo-_-> agu10^: like this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6147203/automating-running-command-on-linux-from-windows-using-putty
  788. # [16:48] <agu10^> no need for that
  789. # [16:48] <agu10^> rsync runs as a daemon on linux
  790. # [16:49] <moo-_-> agu10^: I am afraid that's not the usual case
  791. # [16:49] <moo-_-> agu10^: usually rsync just runs as a userland command over SSH connection
  792. # [16:49] <moo-_-> there is no background daemon needed for synching files
  793. # [16:49] <agu10^> ok
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  795. # [16:50] <agu10^> well first you have to setup a central computer that will run Rsync in daemon mode, we’ll call this the “Rsync Server“
  796. # [16:50] <moo-_-> agu10^: what?
  797. # [16:50] <moo-_-> no
  798. # [16:50] <agu10^> that's what the tutorial says
  799. # [16:50] <moo-_-> agu10^: ok don't follow that tutorial
  800. # [16:51] <agu10^> why not? :(
  801. # [16:51] <moo-_-> agu10^: because you don't know what you are doing and it is not written well enough to be novice friendly
  802. # [16:51] <moo-_-> agu10^: try the putty trick instead. because you are already familiar with putty, it should be easier for you.
  803. # [16:52] <moo-_-> agu10^: so put your codes to some version control repository reachable from the server and make plink command to do an update (svn/git/etc) on the server for you
  804. # [16:53] <agu10^> hmm
  805. # [16:53] <moo-_-> agu10^: this also would guarantee that you get a proper version history for your files
  806. # [16:53] <moo-_-> in the case you need to restore from backup
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  808. # [16:54] <agu10^> yeah but both alternatives look quite messy
  809. # [16:54] <agu10^> there's nothing easy to sync files
  810. # [16:54] <cups> hey guys, anyone know if there's a way to reject a session cookie from an ajax request?
  811. # [16:54] <moo-_-> running rsync command on OSX and Linux is half second task, it's Windows what makes it messy ;)
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  813. # [16:56] <moo-_-> but time to go ->
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  838. # [17:16] <vsgill> :/
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  843. # [17:20] <dahlfors_> personally I have a virtual machine running debian that I develop on
  844. # [17:21] <dahlfors_> the virtual machine shares important folders over samba, but not out on the network
  845. # [17:22] <dahlfors_> and then I use ssh & git on the virtual machine
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  848. # [17:23] <dahlfors_> reason is that I can keep the virtual machine easily setup like the production servers. in mac os x or on windows that wouldn't be quite as simple...
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  908. # [18:38] <mokush> what would you choose for a domain name, between websiteAPP.com or GETwebsite.com ?
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  918. # [18:51] <tomlane> mokush, depends if its specifically an app or not...
  919. # [18:51] <mokush> tomlane: it's going to be a webapp mostly
  920. # [18:51] <mokush> not native apps
  921. # [18:52] <mokush> pocket, for example, has getpocket.com, while I've seen other apps use the nameAPP pattern, and can't decide
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  939. # [19:04] <tomlane> mokush, my opinion would lean more towards getNAME then
  940. # [19:04] <mokush> tomlane: probably a good idea. thanks for the input!
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  947. # [19:11] <tomlane> mokush, no problem
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  1016. # [20:08] <Ahti333> is there any way to replicate 'flex-flow: row wrap' with things that are implemented by all major browsers?
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  1020. # [20:09] <Ahti333> shame there is no working polyfill for the new flexbox
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  1045. # [20:35] <Changa> Byte-Order Mark found in UTF-8 File.
  1046. # [20:35] <Changa> where is this coming from
  1047. # [20:35] <Changa> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.edizarca.com%2Fkarpaz%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&ss=1&outline=1&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.3+http%3A%2F%2Fvalidator.w3.org%2Fservices
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  1050. # [20:36] <Changa> anyone?
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  1052. # [20:37] <dahlfors_> your text editor
  1053. # [20:37] <Changa> I checked all files
  1054. # [20:37] <Changa> they are utf 8
  1055. # [20:37] <Changa> :S
  1056. # [20:37] <dahlfors_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte_order_mark
  1057. # [20:37] <dahlfors_> "BOM use is optional, and, if used, should appear at the start of the text stream. "
  1058. # [20:37] <dahlfors_> so, it can be put in utf-8 documents, but you don't need to have it there
  1059. # [20:38] <Changa> I'm not putting it myself
  1060. # [20:38] <dahlfors_> so, your text editor adds it. depending on the text editor, it might be possible to disable that functionality
  1061. # [20:38] <Changa> I just converted all files (php,js,css) to utf-8
  1062. # [20:38] <Changa> hmm
  1063. # [20:38] <dahlfors_> converted as in an editor, or with a tool?
  1064. # [20:38] <Changa> utf-8 without bom?
  1065. # [20:38] <Changa> :d
  1066. # [20:39] <Changa> I just saw this.
  1067. # [20:39] <Changa> under encoding menu
  1068. # [20:39] <Changa> utf-8 without bom
  1069. # [20:39] <dahlfors_> that's it
  1070. # [20:39] <Changa> since when utf-8 with bom is default?
  1071. # [20:39] <Changa> :D
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