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  176. # [03:30] <dragonshed> is it possible to have a left margin or left padding encroached upon under width-constrained circumstances?
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  189. # [03:57] <oniijin> dragonshed:
  190. # [03:57] <oniijin> what do u mean
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  192. # [03:57] <oniijin> like if u set it to maxwidth 960, can it be bigger?
  193. # [03:57] <dragonshed> smaller.
  194. # [03:57] <dragonshed> oniijin, say the containers width is constrained by the user performing a window resize. In my scenario, text will reflow accordingly, eventually hitting 1 word per line. I'd like a way to remove some left padding/margin in that circumstance.
  195. # [03:58] <dragonshed> I think the best I can do is just to put a minwidth on the container and say go fish.
  196. # [03:58] <oniijin> u mean like do a media selector on small screen?
  197. # [03:58] <oniijin> that's how I usually remove margins/padding for mobile
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  199. # [03:59] <oniijin> unless I'm misunderstanding what you're doing
  200. # [03:59] <dragonshed> yeah that appears to be everyone's answer heh. The problem is the container I speak of is nested in alot of other content.
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  202. # [04:00] <dragonshed> this app isn't really geared up for mediaqs yet
  203. # [04:00] <oniijin> u can't use media selects in css?
  204. # [04:00] <oniijin> hmm dunno then..can probably hack some stuff with js
  205. # [04:00] <oniijin> but that seems painful
  206. # [04:01] <dragonshed> yeah I think minwidth is the best option for this at the moment.
  207. # [04:01] <dragonshed> Thanks for the response
  208. # [04:01] <oniijin> sorry couldnt be more helpful. i tried to test it in jsfiddle but my copious wine drinking tonight is impeding
  209. # [04:01] <oniijin> lol
  210. # [04:01] <dragonshed> hehehe
  211. # [04:01] <dragonshed> I'll be there soon enough
  212. # [04:02] <oniijin> wooha
  213. # [04:02] <oniijin> awake blacked out coding ftw
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  229. # [04:33] <ItsMeLenny> can a webpage be written in CSS alone?
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  231. # [04:33] <ItsMeLenny> lots of :after and :before 's
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  233. # [04:41] <JonK723> you mean beyond the basic markup to have the browser to render the window?
  234. # [04:41] <JonK723> you'll need the basic markup for the page to apply the css
  235. # [04:43] <ItsMeLenny> true
  236. # [04:43] <ItsMeLenny> but yeah, besides the basic markup, everything in css
  237. # [04:44] <JonK723> beyond that I would say yes
  238. # [04:44] <ItsMeLenny> ive started doing javascript menus, to allow for the same menu across multiple pages
  239. # [04:44] <ItsMeLenny> im wondering if this would be better to do in CSS
  240. # [04:44] <ItsMeLenny> in a complicated css tangle
  241. # [04:44] <JonK723> you mean a basic menu using lists?
  242. # [04:45] <ItsMeLenny> is there anything aswell as :before and :after that can be used
  243. # [04:45] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
  244. # [04:45] <ItsMeLenny> this menu on here is generated in JS http://www.suctioncuphands.com
  245. # [04:45] <JonK723> hmm, you shouldnt need javascript for that
  246. # [04:45] <JonK723> css could handle that pretty easily
  247. # [04:46] <JonK723> and if you isolate the css from the element its applied to you could essentially build a list from any element
  248. # [04:46] <ItsMeLenny> i mean in terms of, i just edit one JS to change any part of the meny i want
  249. # [04:47] <JonK723> but what if you want multiple menu's on the same page?
  250. # [04:47] <JonK723> hypothetically
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  252. # [04:47] <ItsMeLenny> like the menu lists are done with
  253. # [04:47] <ItsMeLenny> http://www.suctioncuphands.com/navigation.js
  254. # [04:48] <JonK723> I would totally just do that with css
  255. # [04:48] <JonK723> doing writes like that is slow
  256. # [04:48] <JonK723> and not really modular
  257. # [04:49] <ItsMeLenny> yeah
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  259. # [04:49] <JonK723> especially if you encounter a situation where there is more than one menu on a page
  260. # [04:50] <ItsMeLenny> and when people have javascript turrned off it doesnt work
  261. # [04:50] <JonK723> HA! well there goes a reason!
  262. # [04:51] <JonK723> if you're able to structure your nav menu css into a hierarchy that is agnostic of the element it is applied to you'll be fine
  263. # [04:51] <JonK723> and it will be modular and fast
  264. # [04:54] <ItsMeLenny> but it would all have to be done with :after right
  265. # [04:54] <ItsMeLenny> ?
  266. # [04:54] <JonK723> noooo
  267. # [04:54] <ItsMeLenny> i dont mean the layout of the menu, i mean the actual menu items
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  269. # [04:54] <ItsMeLenny> not the visual aspect of the menu, the actual menu words and links is what i want to generate
  270. # [04:54] <JonK723> wait you want to write the menu out within the content of the :after ?
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  272. # [04:55] <JonK723> i guess you could do it that way
  273. # [04:55] <ItsMeLenny> well rather than using the way ive done with javascript
  274. # [04:55] <ItsMeLenny> theres no menu on each page
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  276. # [04:55] <ItsMeLenny> theres just a javascript link, to a javscript which generates the menu through document writer
  277. # [04:56] <ItsMeLenny> know what im saying?
  278. # [04:56] <JonK723> yea I get you
  279. # [04:57] <JonK723> using content stings should work
  280. # [04:57] <JonK723> either way if can get really messy really fast
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  282. # [04:57] <JonK723> it
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  287. # [05:05] <ItsMeLenny> whats a content sting
  288. # [05:06] <JonK723> strign
  289. # [05:06] <JonK723> string
  290. # [05:06] <ItsMeLenny> oh, my bad
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  292. # [05:06] <ItsMeLenny> basically i want to make the menu on a separate page so i only make the menu once without using php
  293. # [05:06] <JonK723> ok
  294. # [05:07] <ItsMeLenny> wait so whats a content string
  295. # [05:07] <ItsMeLenny> :P
  296. # [05:08] <llamapixel> make a standard blank php page with just the menu content and the assumed css linking from the including file and then just include string it at the correct point ItsMeLenny <?php include 'navbar.php'; ?>
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  298. # [05:09] <JonK723> well when you're using :before and :after one of the attributes is called content
  299. # [05:09] <JonK723> which you supply with whatever it is you want to display "before" or "after" the element
  300. # [05:10] <JonK723> the default value being a div element
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  302. # [05:13] <JonK723> ItsMeLenny: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/CSS/::after?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=CSS%2F%3Aafter
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  304. # [05:17] <ItsMeLenny> yeah, theres no way to insert inside the element is there
  305. # [05:17] <ItsMeLenny> or is that where it goes
  306. # [05:17] <JonK723> thats what goes there
  307. # [05:17] <ItsMeLenny> i'll have to try it again, i knew at one point
  308. # [05:17] <JonK723> look at the live example at the bottom of that page
  309. # [05:17] <ItsMeLenny> im just curious if its feasible, or is it too rediculous
  310. # [05:18] <JonK723> :-D
  311. # [05:18] <JonK723> well yes its feasible and double yes it's ridiculous
  312. # [05:19] <JonK723> for a nav menu at least
  313. # [05:19] <ItsMeLenny> lol
  314. # [05:19] <ItsMeLenny> in that case i will probably try it :P
  315. # [05:19] <JonK723> good luck!
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  385. # [07:20] <defaultro> what would be the ideal tool for developing in HTML5?
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  400. # [07:27] <ItsMeLenny> defaultro, is this a hypothetical question?
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  479. # [09:26] <SinnerNyx> So, is there some way with datetime to specify that I only want the user to specify up to the hour? For instance, I don't want the user to be able to select seconds or microseconds, just "2012-12-24T12:50-05:00" not "2012-12-24T12:50:34.231-05:00"?
  480. # [09:26] <SinnerNyx> *up to the minute
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