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  11. # [00:08] <GOMADWarrior> if I have a interval in a worker and I call worker.terminate the interval is gone?
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  126. # [02:02] <ldlework> Why when drawing lines on a canvas sometimes the lines are sharp, and sometimes they are thicker and duller
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  131. # [02:05] <ldlework> it just seems strange that some lines are like double the width of others
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  638. # [13:00] <altin> can somebody explain this to me please http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15923116/html-markup-within-the-data-attribute
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  640. # [13:01] <moo-_-> altin: you mean data attributes?
  641. # [13:03] <altin> moo-_-: yes I know data attributes but my question is different
  642. # [13:04] <altin> I put that there on that page...
  643. # [13:04] <moo-_-> altin: what is your question?
  644. # [13:04] <altin> how does this work, they put the data attribute in parenthesis again
  645. # [13:04] <altin> data-markup="<a href="">"
  646. # [13:05] <altin> that's in twitters code
  647. # [13:05] <altin> I'm interested to know
  648. # [13:05] <altin> how it works for them
  649. # [13:05] <altin> while when I try it
  650. # [13:05] <altin> it doesn't work
  651. # [13:05] <altin> moo-_-:
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  655. # [13:07] <altin> moo-_-: do you get it :/ ?
  656. # [13:08] <moo-_-> altin: if you terminate quotes properly I see no problem?
  657. # [13:08] <moo-_-> of course you cannot put " inside ""
  658. # [13:08] <moo-_-> exchange " to '
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  660. # [13:10] <altin> wll that's what I'm trying to figure out moo-_-
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  662. # [13:10] <altin> I'm confused what twitter is using over there
  663. # [13:10] <moo-_-> altin: how did you get the source code for Twitter?
  664. # [13:11] <moo-_-> altin: maybe your debugger does some unwanted magic for oyu
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  667. # [13:12] <altin> moo-_-: that's originally not my post in stackoverflow, but I got into it bcs it sounded interesting
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  872. # [16:59] <Gho5t> textarea maxlength property is not supported in ie 9
  873. # [16:59] <Gho5t> is that something I could polyfill with modernizr?
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  879. # [17:05] <Gho5t> ok I guess my understanding of modernizr was off
  880. # [17:05] <Gho5t> you can't add properties to it
  881. # [17:06] <Gho5t> if it's not baked in (such as "maxlength") you are hosed
  882. # [17:06] <Gho5t> right...?
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  884. # [17:06] <paul_irish> bzzt
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  891. # [17:13] <Gho5t> paul
  892. # [17:13] <Gho5t> Mr. Irish
  893. # [17:13] <Gho5t> help me
  894. # [17:14] <Jon47> Gho5t: Modernizr is for feature testing, it doesn't fix things for you automatically except for providing the ability to put css hooks onto new html5 elements
  895. # [17:14] <Gho5t> well aware
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  898. # [17:14] <Jon47> you can use modernizr to detect when a feature is lacking, and then use that knowledge to create a patch for the feature if necessary
  899. # [17:14] <Gho5t> right
  900. # [17:14] <Gho5t> but what happens when it doesn't have the test you need
  901. # [17:14] <Gho5t> like maxlength
  902. # [17:14] <Jon47> you can add your own tests
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  904. # [17:15] <Jon47> maybe even submit them for inclusion into the project
  905. # [17:15] <Gho5t> all right
  906. # [17:15] <Gho5t> I'm not really sure how I would add a test for if a maxlength attribute works properly on a textarea
  907. # [17:15] <Gho5t> I guess simulate entering > max characters and checking the length
  908. # [17:15] <Gho5t> of its value
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  912. # [17:16] <Jon47> how about this: try setting the maxlength to 1, then set the value to a string of length 2, then check the length of the value
  913. # [17:16] <Jon47> if the length is 2, maxlength is not supported
  914. # [17:16] <paul_irish> yup
  915. # [17:16] <Gho5t> ok cool
  916. # [17:17] <Gho5t> is that the real paul irish btw
  917. # [17:17] * paul_irish shrugs
  918. # [17:17] <b-ot> paul_irish: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  919. # [17:17] <Jon47> or just one of his cyborg clones
  920. # [17:17] <Gho5t> I like your work
  921. # [17:18] <Gho5t> bring me on to the team at google
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  928. # [17:21] <Gho5t> hmm I'm surprised I didn't get offered a job right then and there
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  930. # [17:22] <Gho5t> Jon47: would this work
  931. # [17:23] <Gho5t> Modernizr.addTest('maxLength, ('maxlength' in createElement('input') && 'maxlength' in createElement('textarea')))
  932. # [17:23] <Gho5t> basically edited the one for placeholder
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  937. # [17:26] <paul_irish> Gho5t: hard to say
  938. # [17:27] <paul_irish> i have a feeling that'll be a false positive
  939. # [17:27] <Gho5t> hmm
  940. # [17:27] <Gho5t> why's that
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  949. # [17:34] <Jon47> it's not a proper feature test - the element could have that property but still not respect it..
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  952. # [17:35] <Gho5t> ok
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  954. # [17:35] <Gho5t> https://github.com/Modernizr/Modernizr/blob/master/feature-detects/forms/placeholder.js
  955. # [17:35] <Jon47> it does seem to work though - textarea.maxLength is "undefined" in IE9
  956. # [17:35] <Gho5t> I got it form this guy's
  957. # [17:36] <Gho5t> I will report him
  958. # [17:36] <Gho5t> he's not going to get away with this
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  960. # [17:37] <Jon47> i realize you're just being silly, do your test however you want - if it works for you that's great
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  962. # [17:37] <Gho5t> yep
  963. # [17:37] <Jon47> but just pointing out, if you did this: `var i = document.createElement('textarea'); i.maxLength = 5;`
  964. # [17:37] <Gho5t> thanks
  965. # [17:38] <Jon47> then that test would return true in any browser
  966. # [17:38] <Gho5t> right
  967. # [17:38] <Jon47> it's just a mutable property that anybody can mess with
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  969. # [17:38] <Jon47> of course that'd be a silly thing to do
  970. # [17:38] <Gho5t> what would the full test be
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  975. # [17:44] <Jon47> actually it seems that Chrome will allow you to set the value longer than the maxlength using javascript, so my suggestion won't work
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  977. # [17:44] <Gho5t> crap
  978. # [17:45] <Jon47> just use your original idea
  979. # [17:45] <Jon47> it works, that's the important thing
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  986. # [17:55] <Gho5t> damn
  987. # [17:55] <Gho5t> can you tell me what is wrong with this basic setup
  988. # [17:55] <Gho5t> http://plnkr.co/edit/7d24IE?p=preview
  989. # [17:55] <Gho5t> seems to think maxlength doesn't exist even after adding
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  1005. # [18:07] <Gho5t> apparently you can't use camelcase
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  1008. # [18:10] <mokush> any thoughts on Lawnchair vs Taffydb?
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  1014. # [18:15] <Gho5t> paul_irish: do I need to install something beside Modernizer to be able to use Modernizr.load() ?
  1015. # [18:16] <paul_irish> check its box in the builder
  1016. # [18:16] <paul_irish> s'it
  1017. # [18:16] <Gho5t> ay yes
  1018. # [18:16] <Gho5t> thx
  1019. # [18:17] <mokush> or any thoughts on some library to save data in IndexedDb?
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  1074. # [19:10] <Gho5t> I'm trying to polyfill "maxlength" for a textarea
  1075. # [19:10] <Gho5t> my test in modernizr is to do textearea.setAttribute('maxlength', 1); textarea.value = "ab"; but it seems in JS you are able to circumvent the maxlength setting in browsers like chrome
  1076. # [19:10] <Gho5t> is there another way I can set the value?
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  1079. # [19:11] <paul_irish> that passes?
  1080. # [19:11] <Gho5t> that fails
  1081. # [19:11] <Gho5t> sorry yes
  1082. # [19:11] <Gho5t> that passes
  1083. # [19:11] <Gho5t> wait what is your question
  1084. # [19:11] <Gho5t> the code I posted fails for everything
  1085. # [19:11] <paul_irish> confirmed
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  1087. # [19:12] <Gho5t> can you think of a work-around?
  1088. # [19:12] <Gho5t> other than...browser sniffing?
  1089. # [19:12] <paul_irish> lets try
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  1092. # [19:16] <paul_irish> shrug
  1093. # [19:17] <Gho5t> no shrug
  1094. # [19:17] <paul_irish> 1) it's maxLength not maxlength
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  1096. # [19:17] <Gho5t> : (
  1097. # [19:17] <paul_irish> but that doesnt seem to matter
  1098. # [19:17] <paul_irish> 2) textarea.validity.tooLong is still false
  1099. # [19:17] <paul_irish> even if value is '234233242' and maxlength is 1
  1100. # [19:17] <paul_irish> yo no se
  1101. # [19:18] <paul_irish> Gho5t: whats 'maxLength' in textareaElem == in ie9?
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  1105. # [19:19] <Gho5t> 1
  1106. # [19:20] <Gho5t> input.value.length === 0 though
  1107. # [19:20] <Gho5t> for some reason
  1108. # [19:21] <Gho5t> nvm
  1109. # [19:21] <Gho5t> code got messed up
  1110. # [19:22] <Gho5t> http://jsfiddle.net/dz5h7/1/
  1111. # [19:22] <Gho5t> paul_irish: ^
  1112. # [19:23] <paul_irish> Gho5t: i gotta run
  1113. # [19:24] <paul_irish> gluck mate
  1114. # [19:24] <Gho5t> damn
  1115. # [19:24] <Gho5t> ok thanks
  1116. # [19:24] <Gho5t> you are the paul irish right
  1117. # [19:24] <Gho5t> so I can tell ppl even you couldn't fix it
  1118. # [19:24] <Gho5t> at work
  1119. # [19:24] <paul_irish> ahahahaha
  1120. # [19:24] <Gho5t> : )
  1121. # [19:24] <paul_irish> yes :) go wild
  1122. # [19:24] <Gho5t> thanks man
  1123. # [19:24] <paul_irish> i tried moving the elem on and off dom
  1124. # [19:24] <paul_irish> but no luck
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  1126. # [19:25] <paul_irish> maxlength is specific to user entry with the UI
  1127. # [19:25] <paul_irish> tbh it might even be specc'd to allow value setting in the JS
  1128. # [19:25] <paul_irish> i am suprrised however about elem.validity.tooLong being wrong
  1129. # [19:25] <paul_irish> but ie9 doesnt have that so w/e
  1130. # [19:25] <paul_irish> k l8s
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  1143. # [19:43] <Gho5t> it seems that "maxlength" isn't even in the spec for textareas
  1144. # [19:43] <Gho5t> so I guess IE is doing it right
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  1156. # [19:51] <Jon47> eh, standards should improve to pave the cowpaths
  1157. # [19:51] <Jon47> why shouldn't textareas support maxlength
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  1159. # [19:51] <Gho5t> yeah you're right
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  1225. # [21:02] <Gho5t> can you pass parameters to Modernizr's load function
  1226. # [21:02] <Gho5t> other than the js file
  1227. # [21:02] <Gho5t> e.g. I'm doing angular
  1228. # [21:02] <Gho5t> and I want to pass my $rootScope in
  1229. # [21:02] <Gho5t> so my polfill can hook into an event
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