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  1. # Session Start: Sun Apr 14 00:00:00 2013
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  35. # [01:14] <crono9> hi
  36. # [01:14] <crono9> can someone tell me what the point of html5 boilerplate is
  37. # [01:14] <tw2113> starting point to build off of
  38. # [01:14] <crono9> im a frontend dev and expected to be able to construe something positive out of it
  39. # [01:14] <crono9> but it looks like a messy piece of shit
  40. # [01:15] <crono9> and i have a hard time seeing any value in it whatsoever
  41. # [01:15] <crono9> i cant even tell what im looking at
  42. # [01:15] <tw2113> check the documentation then
  43. # [01:15] <tw2113> see if it helps clarify what each part is supposed to do
  44. # [01:16] <crono9> i still dont understand what its supposed to do for me.
  45. # [01:16] <crono9> that i cant do better myself
  46. # [01:16] <crono9> from scratch
  47. # [01:16] <tw2113> think of it as an index.html file that you can use instead of typing out your own from a blank text file
  48. # [01:17] <crono9> yeah but its like
  49. # [01:17] <tw2113> if you can do it better yourself, why are you even asking about h5bp?
  50. # [01:17] <tw2113> clearly you don't need it
  51. # [01:17] <crono9> someone took every plugin known to man and shoved it down the throat of a cat, waiting for a glorious trainwreck of a furball to emerge
  52. # [01:18] <crono9> because i like to stay on top of everything
  53. # [01:18] <tw2113> it's a tool
  54. # [01:18] <tw2113> just like most other things
  55. # [01:18] <crono9> and i want to keep up with stuff
  56. # [01:18] <crono9> but i dont understand why i'd need someone else to pick out my plugins for me
  57. # [01:18] <crono9> and throw it together in a shitty mess of an index file
  58. # [01:18] <crono9> :/
  59. # [01:18] <tw2113> i don't believe it's a bunch of plugins, it's more a compiled set of best practicies
  60. # [01:18] <tw2113> practices*
  61. # [01:19] <crono9> it looks completely messy i sall
  62. # [01:19] <crono9> is all*
  63. # [01:19] <tw2113> and that's fine that you think that
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  65. # [01:19] <tw2113> it's still just a tool that you can use
  66. # [01:19] <tw2113> it's no a defacto standard
  67. # [01:19] <crono9> okay
  68. # [01:19] <tw2113> some people swear by bootstrap
  69. # [01:19] <crono9> would've been better if they could've organized it better then
  70. # [01:19] <tw2113> i don't see the value myself
  71. # [01:20] <tw2113> contribute back
  72. # [01:20] <tw2113> it's on github
  73. # [01:20] <crono9> because it looks like a trainwreck
  74. # [01:20] <tw2113> do a pull request
  75. # [01:20] <tw2113> i think it has a build system in it
  76. # [01:20] <crono9> nah, dont see the point
  77. # [01:20] <crono9> but thanks for taking the time to clarify
  78. # [01:20] <crono9> always wondered about it :x
  79. # [01:21] * tw2113 needs to learn about build systems more
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  82. # [01:22] <crono9> idk i just never saw the point in loading a bunch of features into your site that you havent handpicked yourself
  83. # [01:22] <crono9> if i need a button, ill build it
  84. # [01:22] <crono9> :/
  85. # [01:23] <tw2113> who said you had to use everything out of the box with h5bp?
  86. # [01:23] <crono9> and if there is a problem, ill fix it
  87. # [01:23] <tw2113> you can config and customize it to your needs
  88. # [01:23] <crono9> i dont see a need to rely on someone else's solutions when im better off learning how to work around whatever problems im likely to encounter in my specific style of working
  89. # [01:23] <crono9> is what im saying i guess
  90. # [01:24] <crono9> well again thx for info
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  545. # [17:08] <cougarten> can I ask aboit CSS3?
  546. # [17:08] <cougarten> ... ~about
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  549. # [17:09] <cougarten> I want to animate a transition from "height: XX px;" to "height:auto; bottom: YY px;" how do I do that :) ?
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  565. # [17:30] <pats_Toms> something like this?
  566. # [17:30] <pats_Toms> http://jsfiddle.net/tYvdq/
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  573. # [17:34] <kelabot> pats_Toms: cool :)
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  733. # [21:47] <dave_2324> html5 design needed
  734. # [21:47] <church_> dave_2324 and you Andersom25?
  735. # [21:48] <church_> are you*
  736. # [21:48] <dave_2324> no
  737. # [21:48] <church_> oh
  738. # [21:48] <dave_2324> my partner not here just left
  739. # [21:48] <dave_2324> maybe him
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  742. # [21:49] <church_> tell him the offer is still on the table ;)
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  745. # [21:52] <church_> otherwize try https://www.elance.com/
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