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  355. # [09:13] <obert> is there a replace for <hgroup>?
  356. # [09:14] <tw2113> i would have hoped they'd fix any perceived issues than just flat out replace
  357. # [09:14] <obert> ?
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  359. # [09:14] <obert> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Apr/0003.html
  360. # [09:15] <tw2113> i'm aware they removed hgroup
  361. # [09:15] <tw2113> but i doubt they "replaced" it with something else at the same time
  362. # [09:15] <tw2113> unless you're simply asking what to use instead
  363. # [09:15] <tw2113> for which i have no answer as i never used hgroup in the first place
  364. # [09:15] <obert> <article><h2>my text</h2> and then what?
  365. # [09:15] <tw2113> your article?
  366. # [09:16] <obert> well it is not an article though
  367. # [09:16] <obert> it is just the content
  368. # [09:16] <tw2113> blog post, whatever :D
  369. # [09:16] <obert> no
  370. # [09:16] <tw2113> that's what goes next, your content
  371. # [09:16] <obert> just the content
  372. # [09:16] <tw2113> in p tags
  373. # [09:17] <obert> same markup like html4 then: <div id="content"><h2><p>...
  374. # [09:17] <tw2113> why would you need the div?
  375. # [09:17] <obert> more or less
  376. # [09:17] <tw2113> oh you mean article instead of div
  377. # [09:17] <obert> that's the main content area
  378. # [09:17] <tw2113> my bad
  379. # [09:17] <obert> no
  380. # [09:17] <obert> i meant: dont use article
  381. # [09:17] <obert> heh
  382. # [09:18] <tw2113> i was thinking <article><div><h#>title</h#><p></p></div></article>
  383. # [09:18] <obert> i got a 2 cols layout with a navigation and the content
  384. # [09:18] <tw2113> no, take out the div, leave the article
  385. # [09:18] <tw2113> and be merry
  386. # [09:18] <tw2113> article never relied on hgroup as far as i know
  387. # [09:18] <obert> so <div id="content"><h2>my title</h2><p>my content</p></div>
  388. # [09:18] <tw2113> no, article
  389. # [09:18] <obert> <section id="content"><article><h2><p></article></section>?
  390. # [09:19] <tw2113> dunno about section
  391. # [09:19] <tw2113> but the article tag looks suave
  392. # [09:19] <obert> i use section id="content to create the column
  393. # [09:19] <tw2113> why not div around the article
  394. # [09:19] <obert> ?
  395. # [09:19] <obert> are you against section> too?
  396. # [09:20] <tw2113> <div> <article> <h2></h2> <p></p> <p></p> </article> </div>
  397. # [09:20] <tw2113> no, it's just a bit misunderstood
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  399. # [09:20] <tw2113> and divs are still valid
  400. # [09:20] <obert> misunderstood?
  401. # [09:20] <tw2113> semantics are a bitch
  402. # [09:20] <obert> i dont see great issues with section
  403. # [09:20] <tw2113> then go with it
  404. # [09:21] <tw2113> what do i know
  405. # [09:21] <tw2113> i'm just a guy on a macbook air
  406. # [09:21] <obert> ...
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  409. # [09:22] <tw2113> i haven't used section much, because i haven't read about it lately
  410. # [09:22] <obert> and i am just a guy that didnt your misunderstood statement
  411. # [09:22] <tw2113> the main ones i use: nav, article, aside, header, footer
  412. # [09:22] <obert> and section to cover the main section
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  414. # [09:22] <obert> perhaps
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  416. # [09:23] <obert> although i use <div id="container"> as main container, and <section id="content"> instead <div id="content"> just that
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  418. # [09:25] <obert> mah
  419. # [09:25] <tw2113> i still use divs for wrappers
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  421. # [09:25] <obert> the #content isnt a wrapper, in a way
  422. # [09:25] <obert> imo
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  424. # [09:26] <obert> the main coloumn after body is a wrapper for the contents, imo
  425. # [09:27] <obert> too less standards.
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  427. # [09:27] <obert> and too arguable
  428. # [09:29] <obert> thanks for the opinion tw2113
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  496. # [10:57] <ServerSides> Hi everyone!
  497. # [10:57] <bmatusiak> hi
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  499. # [11:00] <ServerSides> I have a question if I may. I love this website http://autenticacuba.com/ I'm trying to recreate that map they have, but in HTML5. It seems to call the data from an XML file, but would anyone know where I would start? Bit of a newb to HTML5 and what it can do
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  526. # [11:37] <sanav> hello , i'm new to html5 .Is their any GUI tool for designing ?
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  811. # [17:53] <nikin> hi. I am writeing a small scroller game and i use setImageData with getImage data for the scrolling of the background. but it turns out that getImageData is by much the most expensive operation in my loop with 14% of the total runtime. As i will need at least one or two more of the same scrollers i was wondering wether there is a faster way to do this.
  812. # [17:55] <nikin> my current SFP is 0.009s for the draw routine, and i do not really want to go above 25
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  823. # [18:00] <Moo-_-> nikin: yes, you are most likely doing it wrong
  824. # [18:00] <Moo-_-> nikin: you can use another canvas as source for canvas.getContext().drawImage()
  825. # [18:01] <Moo-_-> use it for scrolling the brackground
  826. # [18:01] <Moo-_-> it should be HW accelerated
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  828. # [18:02] <nikin> Moo-_-: i did try that but there are multiple problems with that... it turns out that the problem was with variable assignment i used set(get()) ... and after i changed that to x=get(); set(x) speed incrased almost 3 fold
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  831. # [18:04] <nikin> Moo-_-: what i didnt tell you is that this is an offscreen canvas already... not the displayed one.. the pourpose is not to rebuild the pixel data on the full immage.
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  833. # [18:05] <nikin> i did try canvas1_context.drawImage(canvas1....) but that does not work with "copy" as the blending mode
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  839. # [18:11] <nikin> The other reason i go with getImageData is that i use the image itseld for collision-detection;
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  908. # [19:14] <squeakytoy> guys, is colon : valid in attribute names?
  909. # [19:14] <Jon47> squeakytoy: i think it must be, as in href="mailto:dude@example.com"
  910. # [19:15] <squeakytoy> thast so strange that ts valid
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  912. # [19:15] <squeakytoy> Jon47, you know what an attribute name is? :<
  913. # [19:15] <Jon47> oh i'm sorry
  914. # [19:15] <Jon47> read too fast
  915. # [19:15] <Jon47> i think they are valid in names as well
  916. # [19:16] <Jon47> don't you see attr names like "og:name" in xml?
  917. # [19:16] <Jon47> maybe that's just tag names..
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  923. # [19:22] <squeakytoy> thats xml
  924. # [19:22] <squeakytoy> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16021123/is-colon-valid-in-attribute-names-for-html5
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  944. # [19:45] <Jon47> those answers suggest that colons have a special meaning, so if you using it for something other than namespace delimiting, I guess I'd steer clear of colons
  945. # [19:46] <Jon47> html is made to be robust though
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  977. # [20:13] <Ontani> Hi, i'm drawing with a canvas the following shape: http://jsfiddle.net/JL9HQ/ and would like to create the same shape with an offset of +-10px. like the red shape in this image: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/79192/shape.png
  978. # [20:13] <Ontani> how would I approach this?
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