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  199. # [04:47] <Help_Me> hello
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  201. # [04:47] <Help_Me> i need some advice how to add a login form onto a web page
  202. # [04:48] <llamapixel> step 1 : find a good hardwood log
  203. # [04:48] <Help_Me> :)
  204. # [04:49] <Help_Me> and after?
  205. # [04:49] <llamapixel> If it rolls downstairs and over your neighbours dog, you are good to go
  206. # [04:49] <Help_Me> :)))
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  208. # [04:50] <llamapixel> http://www.html-form-guide.com/php-form/php-login-form.html what are you working in?
  209. # [04:50] <Help_Me> no, this part is ok, i aready grab the code
  210. # [04:51] <Help_Me> it was the log you told me before, now i have to find the dog!
  211. # [04:51] <Help_Me> :))
  212. # [04:52] <Help_Me> look, i have this php
  213. # [04:52] <Help_Me> http://rntplayer.com/Test/Test.php
  214. # [04:52] <llamapixel> sorry my planet needs me
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  216. # [04:52] <Help_Me> it`s working fine so far, or almost
  217. # [04:53] <Help_Me> my bad
  218. # [04:53] <Help_Me> :(
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  356. # [08:54] <JBreit> when i went to validate my 1st html5 code I got this as a error: http://pastebin.com/3Ua4QhLL
  357. # [08:54] <JBreit> how do i fix that so I can validate?
  358. # [08:55] <JBreit> I am guessing i need to use a new version of the charset and etc but not sure what it would be
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  375. # [09:31] <Moo-_-> JBreit: did you fetch file over URL?
  376. # [09:31] <JBreit> yeah
  377. # [09:31] <JBreit> dropbox
  378. # [09:31] <Moo-_-> JBreit: good
  379. # [09:31] <Moo-_-> because
  380. # [09:31] <JBreit> someone told me it was something that dropbox did
  381. # [09:31] <Moo-_-> the encoding declared in HTTP headers is authotarive
  382. # [09:32] <Moo-_-> and one in .html is just suggesting
  383. # [09:32] <Moo-_-> dropbox sets HTTP headers
  384. # [09:32] <Moo-_-> there is nothing you can do
  385. # [09:32] <JBreit> yeah he said something similar to that
  386. # [09:32] <Moo-_-> you should have believed in the first place :)
  387. # [09:32] <JBreit> need to try it from my schools webserver to see if I get the same thing
  388. # [09:32] <JBreit> no he said that after i asked here lol
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  391. # [09:33] <Moo-_-> JBreit: if you want free hosting for HTML
  392. # [09:33] <Moo-_-> use Github and Github pages
  393. # [09:34] <JBreit> I set up an account
  394. # [09:34] <JBreit> i just need to learn git more
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  396. # [09:34] <JBreit> and figures my student webspace is down atm
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  398. # [09:34] <JBreit> so I cant pass the url to validate there
  399. # [09:34] <Chat6981> Hello
  400. # [09:34] <JBreit> my school always takes the student web server down at like 3 am EST for some reason
  401. # [09:34] <JBreit> pisses me off :/
  402. # [09:35] <Moo-_-> JBreit: maybe the janianor needs the power plug to make coffee?
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  404. # [09:35] <JBreit> I do wonder though if my instructor is goign to bitch when I post my site to the classroom
  405. # [09:35] <JBreit> I am the only one in the class writing html5/css3
  406. # [09:35] <JBreit> and the school doesn't teach it :P
  407. # [09:35] <JBreit> heh
  408. # [09:35] <Moo-_-> JBreit: yes
  409. # [09:36] <Moo-_-> JBreit: you should write Microsoft Word, definitely :)
  410. # [09:36] <JBreit> haha
  411. # [09:36] <JBreit> my class is teaching Dw atm
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  413. # [09:36] <JBreit> and I am like YOU suck
  414. # [09:36] <JBreit> and so does Dw
  415. # [09:36] <Moo-_-> mmm
  416. # [09:36] <JBreit> teacher is like it is industry standard
  417. # [09:36] <Moo-_-> I think they stopped using Dreamweaver early 2000
  418. # [09:36] <JBreit> i told her I know over 20+ devs that would laugh at anyone in the industry that uses it
  419. # [09:37] <Moo-_-> JBreit: maybe your teacher should go out a bit more
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  421. # [09:37] <JBreit> I was like this is a mickey mouse program that only graphic designers use
  422. # [09:37] <JBreit> the industry standard is HTML/CSS not Dw
  423. # [09:37] <JBreit> wonder what she will say to my post about that :P
  424. # [09:38] <Moo-_-> JBreit: it would put her on bad light and she would not like
  425. # [09:38] <Moo-_-> JBreit: because she would also need to learn something herselves to keep up with the trends
  426. # [09:38] <Moo-_-> extra work
  427. # [09:38] <Moo-_-> same pay
  428. # [09:38] <Moo-_-> JBreit: here are some free basic exercices http://codeacademy.com/
  429. # [09:39] <JBreit> shes old man
  430. # [09:39] <dahlfors_> Moo-_-: dreamweaver might have been an industry standard when your teacher got that info ;)
  431. # [09:39] <JBreit> yeah I am on code academy
  432. # [09:39] <JBreit> went through the html5 stuff
  433. # [09:39] <JBreit> workign on the js and jqury and php stuff
  434. # [09:39] <JBreit> she lives in the western part of my state
  435. # [09:39] <JBreit> which i know there is design work
  436. # [09:40] <JBreit> ei study online atm
  437. # [09:40] <JBreit> only because i couldnt afford to move
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  440. # [09:41] <JBreit> i thnk the only reason it calld industry std is because they get their software for free from adobe to preach it
  441. # [09:42] <JBreit> I don't know a single designer/developer that uses that shit
  442. # [09:42] <dahlfors_> some still use dw as an editor though
  443. # [09:42] <JBreit> just a bunch of graphic designers that can't be bothered to learn the code behind it
  444. # [09:42] <dahlfors_> not for its wysiwyg capabilities
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  446. # [09:43] <JBreit> the point and click capabilities?
  447. # [09:43] <Moo-_-> JBreit: yes
  448. # [09:43] <dahlfors_> yes. wysiwyg, what you see is what you get
  449. # [09:43] <Moo-_-> I am not sure but Adobe has HTML5 authoring products too
  450. # [09:43] <Moo-_-> which are
  451. # [09:43] <Moo-_-> like
  452. # [09:43] <JBreit> or the love of having to edit out certain things because it codes stuff to the local drive instead of just where it should
  453. # [09:43] <Moo-_-> made on this decade
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  455. # [09:44] <dahlfors_> yeah. the new html5 products from adobe seem like they should be alright for some use
  456. # [09:44] <JBreit> what i see is a crap product to be honest
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  458. # [09:44] <JBreit> Dw didn't seem to like HTML5 too mcuh when I started to code in it lol
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  460. # [09:45] <dahlfors_> think dw will get phased out yes
  461. # [09:45] <JBreit> i hpe so
  462. # [09:45] <JBreit> hope *
  463. # [09:45] <dahlfors_> http://html.adobe.com/edge/
  464. # [09:46] <dahlfors_> adobe edge is where they are putting resources now. maybe dw will be remade and remain some kind of editor in that suite too, but I wouldn't count on it
  465. # [09:46] <JBreit> the adobe logo on that page seems like in a odd place
  466. # [09:46] <JBreit> like it was meant for arabs who read right to left
  467. # [09:46] <JBreit> lol
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  545. # [11:20] <tbharath> do we have deferred objects in javascript (not in jquery)?
  546. # [11:21] <Moo-_-> tbharath: coming
  547. # [11:21] <tbharath> Moo-_-, but not now?
  548. # [11:21] <Moo-_-> tbharath: http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/#futures
  549. # [11:22] <Moo-_-> tbharath: pick your favotire library
  550. # [11:22] <Moo-_-> jQuery, Underscore, others
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  593. # [12:34] <webpro> tbharath, Moo-_- afaic, Underscore doesn't have the concept of deferred objects
  594. # [12:35] <webpro> but there are plenty of fine libs out there, e.g. when.js, Q, etc.
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  619. # [13:05] <Help_Me> hello, i need some assistance, is somebody available?
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  885. # [17:21] <Hello9> hello
  886. # [17:21] <Hello9> Wanted to share a new programming forum: http://thedevshed.net/forum/
  887. # [17:21] <Hello9> feel free to join
  888. # [17:21] <Hello9> :)
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  965. # [18:23] <pfFredd> Hey guys.. I'm looking to start learning how to do HTML5 web apps and I was looking for tutorials and most of the ones I find are based on various frameworks. Is this the normal way to create web apps in HTML5? My common sense keeps shouting to me that I should learn the basics without using any framework first?
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  968. # [18:24] <cgcardona> diveintohtml5.info pfFredd
  969. # [18:25] <cgcardona> IMO you don't need to use a full blow framework to try out HTML5. Just create a single page HTML file with some javascript and explore the APIs.
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  971. # [18:26] <pfFredd> k.. thanks for the link cgcardona. I'll have a look at it
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  973. # [18:26] <cgcardona> it's one of the best resources around. also http://www.html5rocks.com/ is really good
  974. # [18:27] <tw2113> cgcardona, what are the chances you're going to WordCamp SanFran in july?
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  976. # [18:27] <cgcardona> Pretty low. I hadn't planned on it. You gonna be in town tw2113 ?
  977. # [18:27] <tw2113> if all goes well, yes i'll be there for the event
  978. # [18:27] <pfFredd> cgcardona, cheers
  979. # [18:27] <cgcardona> ah dude, we gotta grab a drink. Let me know where the wordpress after parties are and I'll crash one :-]
  980. # [18:28] <cgcardona> pfFredd: no prob :-]
  981. # [18:28] <tw2113> noted
  982. # [18:28] <tw2113> i think the conference center for it is a bit south of the financial district
  983. # [18:28] <tw2113> and if you know where 21st Amendment Brewery is, about a mile from there
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  985. # [18:29] <cgcardona> yea I've been there a few times. it's a nice bar. they make great brews.
  986. # [18:29] <cgcardona> they have a watermelon beer that is amazing.
  987. # [18:29] <tw2113> i'm praying they still have monks blood available if/when i get there
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  989. # [18:30] <cgcardona> i've not tried that one.
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  991. # [18:31] <tw2113> give it a go if you can next time
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  994. # [18:32] <cgcardona> yea i might be going there tomorrow night. I'll see if they have it.
  995. # [18:33] <cgcardona> you went last time you were in town?
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  997. # [18:33] <tw2113> yeah, me and the mozilla crew i was with
  998. # [18:33] <cgcardona> oh nice.
  999. # [18:33] <cgcardona> i bet that was fun.
  1000. # [18:33] <pats_Toms> morning
  1001. # [18:33] <tw2113> i think i took off for that event 1 year ago tomorrow
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  1004. # [18:34] <cgcardona> I remember when you were out here. I can't believe it's been a year.
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  1009. # [18:37] <tw2113> i should get to work on some stuff
  1010. # [18:37] <tw2113> bbl
  1011. # [18:37] <cgcardona> ttyl
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  1091. # [19:47] <Richhh> Problem: embed a video in an html page that when printed on a printer, shows an image of a frame of that video
  1092. # [19:47] <Richhh> solution?
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  1141. # [20:22] <David_Bradbury> Haven't tested it, but I imagine the poster attribute for the video tag is what you're looking for. You could also use CSS media queries to hide the video and replace it with an image
  1142. # [20:22] <David_Bradbury> @ Richhh
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  1356. # [23:29] <unstable> Is there something I can use when I have html outputted from js or ruby/php etc.. and it looks terrible.. to have it parse the text and format it properly with sane idioms.. just so I can read it easier?
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  1358. # [23:30] <Moo-_-> unstable: google html tidy
  1359. # [23:30] <Moo-_-> unstable: if you use sublime text 2 editor plugins available
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  1361. # [23:30] <adrianoprea> Yes, REGEX, or go with HTML Tidy !
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  1365. # [23:32] <unstable> Thanks
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