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43. # [00:47] <klumsy> how do you do a tooltip or popover or whatever on hover, that contains large content, but you want to ensure its actually visible.. (basically you can't just position it relative to the item)
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77. # [01:45] <Scrip> hello
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92. # [02:06] <Anselm> hi Scrip =)
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99. # [02:15] <barneyrubble> hi all, got a question, do people use the jquery ui components or are there better options?
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110. # [02:29] <norbert_> hi, anyone here know if there is an easy way to find out which browsers starting which versions support the form= attribute?
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117. # [02:38] <jalbertbowdenii> norbert_ http://www.impressivewebs.com/html5-form-attribute/ http://swatelier.info/at/forms/HTML5attrib.asp
118. # [02:41] <norbert_> jalbertbowdenii: thanks; no IE yet it seems
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120. # [02:42] <norbert_> although both of these pages are from 2011
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123. # [02:43] <norbert_> latter was updated March 2011, former updated June 2011
124. # [02:43] <norbert_> IE 10.0.4 was released 22 days ago
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130. # [02:50] <norbert_> no, IE10 doesn't support form=
131. # [02:50] <norbert_> "Association of controls and forms" (clickable) here shows that: http://html5test.com/compare/browser/ie10.html
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134. # [02:51] <norbert_> basically means I need to do a _lot_ of work to somehow redesign a website to make it IE compatible
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175. # [04:06] <norbert_> paul_irish: hi, hope you don't mind me asking, out of curiosity, I noticed that Modernizr's download page has html5shiv in the Extra section... isn't Webshims Lib more complete? I also noticed that modernizr.com doesn't include either (only respond.min.js)
176. # [04:07] <norbert_> also, the website doesn't seem to mention a forum or e-mail address or mailing list for questions/feedback
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178. # [04:10] <norbert_> ryanseddon: maybe you're around? see ^ :)
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184. # [04:14] <ryanseddon> norbert_: webshim is built by the same author of shiv who is also a member on the modernizr team, however the shiv is about making sure elements showup in IE and when you print that's all. The shim is about polyfilling the missing features.
185. # [04:15] <ryanseddon> norbert_: also github issues is fine for feedback/questions
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187. # [04:19] <norbert_> ryanseddon: ok, I see; github works I guess, but not everyone has an account there (I don't, for example; I can IRC though)
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189. # [04:21] <norbert_> ryanseddon: by the way, if I add both Modernizr and Webshims Lib just to get support for the form= attribute for IE users... how does that sound to you; is that a crazy solution or more a 'why not, that'll work' thing? :)
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202. # [04:50] <ryanseddon> norbert_: I guess, you can always wrap that in a conditional comment if that's the only reason you need both those libs.
203. # [04:51] <norbert_> ryanseddon: yes, I'll put it in <!--[if IE]> <![endif]-->
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212. # [05:00] <jalbertbowdenii> norbert_: but you can use conditional compilation http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8ka90k2e%28v=vs.94%29.aspx
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215. # [05:03] <norbert_> difficult not to get angry at the people at Microsoft who decide what happens with IE
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345. # [08:51] <mgeary> hi folks. Hey, is there a more specific #group for KineticJS?
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347. # [08:56] <pats_Toms> mgeary, there is #html5gamedevs
348. # [08:57] <pats_Toms> I think that there is many Kinetic users
349. # [08:57] <mgeary> hmm. ok, thanks
350. # [08:57] <pats_Toms> no
351. # [08:57] <pats_Toms> seems like Im wrong, but you can test ;D
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353. # [09:00] <mgeary> i might be okay. Need to see about a custom filter for Kinetic images
354. # [09:00] <mgeary> but i may be able to duplicate and modify the Grayscale filter
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368. # [09:26] <User> a
369. # [09:26] <User> why is everyone muted in #html ?
370. # [09:29] <User> anyway i dont know anything about html or programming
371. # [09:29] <User> i have an html or javascript related question
372. # [09:29] <User> http://www.quackit.com/html/codes/html_popup_window_code.cfm
373. # [09:29] <User> popupWindow = window.open(url,'popUpWindow','height=700,width=800,left=10,top=10,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,toolbar=yes,menubar=no,location=no,directories=no,status=yes')
374. # [09:29] <User> is there a way to get it to scroll from left and top positions on the inside of the window?
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380. # [09:33] <pats_Toms> User9733, yeah, there was ScrollX and ScrollY
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383. # [09:37] <User9733> is that html4 or new to html5?
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385. # [09:37] <pats_Toms> momento, I will make some example
386. # [09:38] <User9733> ok
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548. # [13:52] <User9733> nevermind someone helped me to get it to work by looking at the page source, finding an identifier, andputtinga url hash tag at the end of hte url. thanks anyway
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663. # [16:00] <amph1bius> is there an html5 way to animate text that is too long from right to left/left to right in a fixed width container
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801. # [18:12] <CodeFriar> when I create an element with draggable="true", and add an event listener the event passed doesn't have a dataTransfer property/object attached to it. How can I create one? do I just need to say event.dataTransfer={}; ?
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886. # [19:15] <basiclaser> hello everybody!
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889. # [19:15] <basiclaser> (hi doctor nick!)
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897. # [19:19] <basiclaser> hey guys does anyone know of a bottom-up framework for webapps? (like the old 320 & up, which is no longer updated unfortunately) I know that twitter bootstrap 3 will be 'bottom-up' but i can't see a release date and want to get started with my work
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902. # [19:24] <amph1bius> theres an rc of bootstrap 3 isnt there
903. # [19:24] <basiclaser> what be RC
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910. # [19:31] <basiclaser> amph1bius: Thanks , i got it , looks nice
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994. # [20:26] <basiclaser> amph1bius: do you know if the 'cols' and 'rows' attributes of textarea are deprecated ? im having trouble getting life out of them, trying to make a nice big text box
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1017. # [20:52] <hansol> hello
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1020. # [20:54] <CodeFriar> hi
1021. # [20:57] <timtux> Hi
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1023. # [20:57] <CodeFriar> anyone know what magic is required to get firefox to allow an object to be draggable ?
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1025. # [20:59] <dahlfors_> you need to make a sacrifice to the lord of fire(fox)
1026. # [21:00] <hansol> http://bit.ly/10nLvm2 - can u check menu at left
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1029. # [21:00] <hansol> i add icon for menu 1
1030. # [21:00] <tw2113> old or new gods dahlfors_
1031. # [21:01] <hansol> but when i hover the menu icon is not shwoing in hovered style
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1034. # [21:02] <dahlfors_> the old gods seem more powerful so far in GoT, so I'd try with those first
1035. # [21:02] <dahlfors_> :)
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1038. # [21:03] <tw2113> +1 answer
1039. # [21:03] <Jon47> the newest god seems to have some power as well
1040. # [21:03] <Jon47> the seven are pretty much worthless
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1087. # [21:47] <sausageassassin> hi, anyone here familiar with html5 video? Im having an issue trying to hide cues that appear only in Safari
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1100. # [21:53] <merpnderp> Is there any hack or future feature coming out where the manifest.cache can be grabbed after the app has already started?
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1199. # [23:00] <socket> any tutorial pdf files
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