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  35. # [01:19] <ericelliott> FreezingCold: No.
  36. # [01:20] <ericelliott> Hmmz: If your HTML is invalid XHTML, XPath will fail. And I don't know of any online XPath testers, but there's probably something like that out there.
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  168. # [06:16] <gde33|2> can I just do something like this and access it with get elements by tag name? <img src="" depth="300" height="100px">
  169. # [06:16] <gde33|2> is there a better way to store data with each image?
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  183. # [06:36] <boogyman> define "store data"
  184. # [06:41] <DarkArgon> data-bla?
  185. # [06:41] <DarkArgon> http://ejohn.org/blog/html-5-data-attributes/
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  410. # [14:47] <totos> Hello, is it possible to open a port (eg 8080) using a html5 compliant browser?
  411. # [14:50] <totos> Using websockets it does seem possible. No proxies or firewalls are involved
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  421. # [15:02] <totos> Is this considered a somewhat esoteric feature of HTML5 that not many people here about it? The definition of network socket according to wikipedia is that there is a port that opens and accepts outbound connections, but i haven't managed to find how to do that the last few months
  422. # [15:04] <dahlfors_> you need something serverside, node.js or similar
  423. # [15:04] <dahlfors_> then your scripts can listen to those websockets
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  426. # [15:09] <totos> dahlfors_: thanks for the answer. So the browsers just implemented the protocol, so as to be able to connect as clients only to a server that supports that protocol? They cannot open a port in the computer?
  427. # [15:10] <totos> dahlfors_: By that logic, the browsers have had for a long time httpsocket support and now they just added websockets, right?
  428. # [15:16] <dahlfors_> try this if you want to learn what websockets are about, http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/websockets/basics/
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  433. # [15:25] <totos> dahlfors_:Thanks,that site has an impressive collection of articles. So with websocket i still cannot avoid polling, but it is done natively by the browsers,instead of libraries, and with lower overhead.
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  441. # [15:33] <dahlfors_> the websocket is kept open. you can push, no need to keep on polling
  442. # [15:33] <dahlfors_> sockets.io should support push
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  448. # [15:42] <totos> dahlfors_: But if i monitor the network traffic with an appropriate tool like wireshark, i won't see the browser to occasionally send data to the server, to keep the connection open? Polling still happens, it is just done 'trasparently' from the programmer, as far as my understanding is going
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  451. # [15:48] <dahlfors_> I haven't dug deeper into it. but without some tcp keepalive packets being sent, quite a lot of routers will drop the connection after a while
  452. # [15:48] <dahlfors_> either there is keepalive, or they restart connection when needed
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  454. # [15:51] <totos> dahlfors_: Nice, thank you very much for the help. :)
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  662. # [23:51] <bendman_> hey, a weird typed array issue going on in javascript. I'm trying to flatten an array of float32arrays into a single, longer float32array, but it just repeats the last two rather than concatting them all. it works fine if I offload the process into a web worker, but I don't want to do that
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