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- # [07:02] <Goleif> The PHP function socket_write() which is supposed to deliver the second part of the handshake, returns true and should be working fine. But something is wrong...
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- # [11:27] <mobile8> does HTML5 support .pls or .m3u
- # [11:27] <patstoms> mobile8, pls and m3u os just a playlist files
- # [11:27] <patstoms> mobile8, you need url for stream
- # [11:28] <patstoms> mobile8, they are defined in that playlists
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- # [12:08] <patstoms> mobile8, you mean where you can find stream url?
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- # [12:11] <mobile8> I think its shoutcast or something, anyway its a radio broadcast
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- # [12:18] <mobile8> patstoms: any idea?
- # [12:22] <patstoms> mobile8, maybe you can show the playlist file
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- # [15:57] <obert> is <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge,chrome=1"> required/usefull in responsive design?
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- # [16:00] <Moo^_^> obert: it is not related to responsive design
- # [16:00] <obert> Moo^_^: i never got what that means anyway
- # [16:00] <Moo^_^> obert: google tells
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- # [16:00] <obert> not much
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- # [16:01] <obert> i just didnt gotcha it at all
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- # [16:02] <Moo^_^> obert: it uses latest IE rendering engine
- # [16:02] <Moo^_^> and Google Chrome Frame if installed
- # [16:02] <obert> so?
- # [16:02] <obert> mah
- # [16:03] <Moo^_^> obert: so
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- # [16:03] <obert> i dont see its usefull part
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- # [16:05] <obert> can i remove it freely?
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- # [16:05] <obert> i got a html5 doc with some css3
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- # [16:06] <obert> is that line recommend to be use or not?
- # [16:06] <obert> in poor words
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- # [16:13] <dahlfors_> leave it there
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- # [16:21] <obert> uh
- # [16:21] <obert> uhmf thanks
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- # [16:22] <dahlfors_> I believe it is well explained in some of the videos for html5 boilerplate
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- # [16:23] <dahlfors_> obert: http://youtu.be/oDlsOyPKUTM?t=11m
- # [16:23] <dahlfors_> and if it is html5 boilerplate you are working with, watch the whole vid
- # [16:25] <dahlfors_> remember that the vid is 2 years old though, so a few things have changed since that. but lots of useful parts about it stil
- # [16:25] <dahlfors_> still
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- # [16:26] <obert> no i am not into frameworks
- # [16:26] <goleif> Moo^_^: Was it you who had experience of WebSockets?
- # [16:26] <obert> i only remember that that wouldnt be validated
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- # [16:30] <obert> mah thanks for now
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- # [16:36] <XymonSinclair> It makes me sad that people still use php.
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- # [16:37] <brbcoding> lolwot
- # [16:37] <brbcoding> It makes me sad that people still ride bicycles
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- # [16:39] <Xymon> right?
- # [16:39] <Xymon> I mean we HAVE cars damnit.
- # [16:40] <Xymon> Haha, but seriously. NodeJS can do everything php can + more.
- # [16:40] <Xymon> it's just not as popular because it's new.
- # [16:40] <Xymon> Give it time, it'll take over.
- # [16:40] <brbcoding> **facepalm**
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- # [17:01] <Xymon> I take it you're some sort of PHP fanboy.
- # [17:01] <Xymon> That's cute.
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- # [17:03] <brbcoding> I'm a "use the tools that get the job done with the highest ROI" kinda guy
- # [17:04] <obert> you are using python then
- # [17:04] <brbcoding> Yep, for some things.
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- # [17:11] <Ms2ger> Mm, language fanboys
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- # [17:17] <dahlfors_> someone has said that about every language, that it will take over at x amount of time in future.. :)
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- # [17:19] <dahlfors_> c#, java, python, any language. and here we are, with more languages in use than ever before...
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- # [17:27] <lesshaste> ROI?
- # [17:27] <brbcoding> return on investment
- # [17:27] <lesshaste> ok
- # [17:28] <lesshaste> isn't node.js a server? I mean isn't the comparison php versus javascript?
- # [17:28] <lesshaste> not node.js versus php
- # [17:28] <lesshaste> not that I know much about node.js of course
- # [17:30] <Karliky> PHP .... that language that have mb_* functions to manage UTF-8....
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- # [17:32] <lesshaste> Karliky, this may be the wrong channel for php discussion :)
- # [17:32] <EwokFartPorn> lesshaste: #php
- # [17:32] <lesshaste> EwokFartPorn, exactly
- # [17:32] <EwokFartPorn> oh, nm
- # [17:32] <Karliky> ok
- # [17:32] <EwokFartPorn> Karliky: #php
- # [17:32] <EwokFartPorn> just joined
- # [17:32] <lesshaste> EwokFartPorn, I am surprised you haven't been kicked
- # [17:32] <EwokFartPorn> Why would I?
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- # [17:32] <lesshaste> your nick
- # [17:33] <lesshaste> not great for kids
- # [17:33] <Karliky> a lot of kids here
- # [17:33] <lesshaste> is there a sysop here?
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- # [17:33] <EwokFartPorn> Porn is such a censored name.
- # [17:33] <EwokFartPorn> I know.
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- # [17:34] <lesshaste> ok let me try it another way.. please change your nick
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- # [17:45] <EwokFartPorn> I'm not going to sit here and troll about a nickname. Either ban me, ask someone to ban me, or ignore me.
- # [17:45] <EwokFartPorn> Can we move on?
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- # [17:48] <lesshaste> EwokFartPorn, there is no one to ban you
- # [17:48] <lesshaste> EwokFartPorn, which why I asked politely
- # [17:49] <EwokFartPorn> lesshaste: Not changing, so take action. I'm dropping it and will not say anything further about it.
- # [17:49] <lesshaste> I can take no action
- # [17:49] <lesshaste> all I can do is ask nicely
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- # [17:53] <interop_madness> can <link> and <script> tags with custom data attributes inside <head> cause problems in IE8? the code doesn't work and the IE debugger tools don't even show the js files
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- # [17:56] <EwokFartPorn> 'live @ interop_madness
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- # [17:56] <EwokFartPorn> interop_madness: Got a live example
- # [17:57] <interop_madness> EwokFartPorn, you mean if i have got a live example?
- # [17:57] <interop_madness> only pseudocode if that's sufficient
- # [17:58] <EwokFartPorn> Well, it should work in IE6+
- # [17:58] <EwokFartPorn> interop_madness: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2412947/do-html5-custom-data-attributes-work-in-ie-6
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- # [18:00] <EwokFartPorn> Not sure what your intentions are though. It's usually better if you have a live example on jsbin.com or jsfiddle.net.
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- # [18:00] <interop_madness> EwokFartPorn, note that i don't do anything with the data attributes after the fact. i just need it internally when creating the html server-side, to ensure the correct order of <script> tags. it seems that <script> or <link> tags inside header break don't work in IE8 if the have data-whatever attributes
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- # [18:01] <interop_madness> just wanted to check, because IE8 doesn't hint any error, console is empty, js files are undebuggable.
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- # [18:04] <Xymon> Ie8 doesn't support web browsing.
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- # [18:07] <interop_madness> sadly we have to support IE8. if it were my call, i would not only drop IE support including IE10, i would actually actively prevent our sites from being usable at all with any IE
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- # [18:09] <Xymon> Oh don't worry i know.
- # [18:09] <Xymon> It's a burden to all web devs though.
- # [18:09] <EwokFartPorn> ^
- # [18:09] <Xymon> ugh. seriously microsoft, just use the v8 engine...
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- # [18:17] <oleyb> Thats the beauty of mobile web dev
- # [18:17] <oleyb> no IE to worry about
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- # [18:18] <EwokFartPorn> Windows Phone?
- # [18:19] <oleyb> it doesn't have nearly the audience IE does on the desktop
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- # [18:19] <EwokFartPorn> Ah, older IE.
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- # [18:19] <oleyb> the windows phone market share is just so small
- # [18:19] <EwokFartPorn> True.
- # [18:19] <oleyb> it's not a big deal on some projects to just ommit it
- # [18:20] <scottkellum> EwokFartPorn++ you should code with progressive enhancement and future friendliness in mind regardless of target use case.
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- # [18:29] <interop_madness> checked against other IE8, works now
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- # [20:01] <mokush> if you would be working on a frontend-only project
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- # [21:17] <PhanLord> thats on 3d canvas
- # [21:18] <PhanLord> 2d
- # [21:18] <PhanLord> strokeStyle is just rgba(255,0,0,1)
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- # [22:15] <jeffszusz> hi folks
- # [22:16] <dekiss> can I use lang atribute for my coutnry's language macedonian?
- # [22:17] <jeffszusz> i've got a list of items that can be navigated through with the keyboard arrows or with mouseover; unfortunately whenever the window scrolls, it triggers a mouseover and puts the focus where the mouse cursor is even if i was scrolling via the keyboard arrows
- # [22:18] <jeffszusz> what would be the best way to prevent this? I've considered just adding preventdefault on mouseover for a few milliseconds, then taking it away again;
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The end :)