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1. # Session Start: Wed May 29 00:00:00 2013
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5. # [00:01] <David_Bradbury> elplatt: This may be related to your issue, though without any more information, I'm not sure what you're asking - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16337993/trying-to-compare-two-canvas-elements
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12. # [00:03] <elplatt> David_Bradbury, thanks, that's the same problem. Unfortunately I can't avoid using svg. Seems like there should be a way to do it.
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18. # [00:07] <David_Bradbury> If Chrome thinks it is a security risk, then I'm not sure how you will get around it. That said, I don't know the specifics of your issue and there may be a server-side or Flash method.
19. # [00:10] <elplatt> Server side would work if I could get the data there, but it's too long to send via GET.
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22. # [00:11] <David_Bradbury> Send it in a POST?
23. # [00:11] <elplatt> I'm trying to generate an svg with d3 client-side, and provide a downloadable png version.
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28. # [00:12] <David_Bradbury> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8389646/send-post-data-on-redirect-with-javascript-jquery
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31. # [00:13] <elplatt> Problem with that is that the response needs to go into in img element in order to draw it to a canvas.
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33. # [00:14] <David_Bradbury> POST it via an AJAX request?
34. # [00:14] <David_Bradbury> err XHR
35. # [00:15] <elplatt> I could do that, and convet to a data uri or object uri, but then i'd be back where I started.
36. # [00:15] <elplatt> Maybe it's not possible.
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38. # [00:20] <David_Bradbury> The developers for these browsers can be really weird randomly about some security issues.
39. # [00:21] <elplatt> Yes, I'm seeing that. This seems to be the relevant chrome bug report: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=68568
40. # [00:22] <elplatt> seems there are two bugs: 1. data urls are always marked as cross-domain, 2. svgs are always marked as cross-domain.
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42. # [00:23] <David_Bradbury> Mozilla has completely shut down discussion about a 'security issue' regarding being able to send your users a message before they leave your page. This is important for a lot of web applications, and hundreds of comments have been made because of the things that broke.
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45. # [00:24] <David_Bradbury> But because there was too much 'complaining' and not enough compelling reasons, an admin shut down any future discussion
46. # [00:24] <elplatt> Alas.
47. # [00:25] <elplatt> Well, thanks for your suggestions in any case!
48. # [00:25] <David_Bradbury> No problem, sorry I couldn't help more
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87. # [01:03] <dekiss> when I save document with notepad++ as html index.html how the file is saved on the hard disk with which encoding?
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89. # [01:03] <JonathanNeal> Hello
90. # [01:05] <aaas> im doing some ajaxy stuff and i like html5 history feature...it looks good if js is enabled the urls pop on and off and you can store the history... with it disabled you can tell it to just follow the links with the browser refresh... i need to know the PATH it took to traverse backwards (not just the last back move)...afaik there's no way to store this FULL history using html5 without js...Im assuming I need to use POST, GET, OR SESSION...an
91. # [01:05] <aaas> y input regarding this?
92. # [01:06] <aaas> a reminder: http://html5demos.com/history
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178. # [02:39] <mehwork> is it ok to use camelCase in attribute values: <div id="fooBar"> ?
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180. # [02:40] <mehwork> i know it's technically ok, but is there any good reason not to?
181. # [02:41] <llamapixel> http://csswizardry.com/2010/12/css-camel-case-seriously-sucks/ some suggest it makes things harder but your finger memory might feel the pain ;)
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183. # [02:41] <llamapixel> underscore might be a solution or hyphens
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187. # [02:53] <mehwork> thanks
188. # [02:53] <llamapixel> np m8
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224. # [03:27] <phila82r> Hi all :)
225. # [03:27] <boogyman> hi
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227. # [03:28] <phila82r> I'm kinda new with this server and was wondering if it was poor etiquette to look for freelancers here?
228. # [03:28] <phila82r> Not for an open-source project
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235. # [03:48] <phila82r> Alright, I was wondering if anyone'd be interested in working with a startup? Looking for UI/UX designer, Front and Back-End Devs as well.
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238. # [03:51] <llamapixel> How are you going to hide the source when its available to anyone with a desktop browser?
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345. # [06:43] <pensive612> Anyone know of a way in Chrome to temporarily disable CSS3 compatibilities for testing?
346. # [06:43] <pensive612> ie. turn off flexbox support.
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547. # [11:54] <dekiss> should I end doctype element with solidus character?
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550. # [11:55] <dekiss> <!doctype html /> like this? or <!doctype html> or like his?
551. # [11:56] <dahlfors_> second one
552. # [11:56] <dekiss> why?
553. # [11:56] <dahlfors_> long story. read up on it
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555. # [11:56] <dekiss> I can't end it with solidus?
556. # [11:56] <dahlfors_> I'm working here
557. # [11:56] <dekiss> isn't that ordinary element like all others?
558. # [11:57] <dekiss> nah I think you don't know that is why
559. # [11:57] <dekiss> you lie that you work :)
560. # [11:57] <dahlfors_> ok
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562. # [11:59] <dekiss> you just have read that but don't know to exaplin why
563. # [12:00] <dekiss> I saw on wc html5 standard taht it should consist solidus / but I am not sure why
564. # [12:00] <dekiss> so that makes doctype not ordinary element
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567. # [12:03] <christophe_v_E> Hi, I'm looking to play a video with multiple audio tracks (only the selected one can be played with the video) any suggestions?
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905. # [17:38] <dekiss> why on w3c.org there are not all values that I can put for name atribute of meta element?
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908. # [17:42] <GarethAdams> dekiss: because anything can be a valid meta name
909. # [17:42] <GarethAdams> dekiss: there is a list of recognised standard names, but as long as you have a tool that understands what <meta name='zorkversion' content='7'> means there's nothing stopping you using it
910. # [17:43] <dekiss> there is no explanation about <meta name="robots"
911. # [17:43] <dekiss> ok but there isn't standar names list?
912. # [17:43] <dekiss> where is the list please?
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914. # [17:44] <GarethAdams> dekiss: you've found the <meta> element part of the HTML5 spec?
915. # [17:44] <dekiss> what is archiving, what means robots like googlebot to archieve the page?
916. # [17:44] <dekiss> GarethAdams yes
917. # [17:45] <GarethAdams> dekiss: there's a section "Other metadata names"
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919. # [17:46] <GarethAdams> well first there's a section "Standard metadata names" but as you say, "robots" is not in the list of standardised names
920. # [17:46] <dekiss> what mean sindex, and archieve
921. # [17:46] <dekiss> GarethAdams robtos and other arent in "other metadata names"
922. # [17:47] <GarethAdams> what's the first line in the "Other metadata names" section?
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925. # [17:48] <dekiss> 4.2.5.2 Other metadata names
926. # [17:48] <dekiss> Extensions to the predefined set of metadata names may be registered in the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page. [WHATWGWIKI]
927. # [17:48] <dekiss> Anyone is free to edit the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page at any time to add a type. These new names must be specified with the following information:
928. # [17:48] <dekiss> Keyword
929. # [17:48] <dekiss> The actual name being defined. The name should not be confusingly similar to any other defined name (e.g. differing only in case).
930. # [17:48] <Sculptor> i wrote s a simple app. it works in chrome/firefox on desktop and wont work in ie, and works on firefox in tablet and won't work in chrome. beautiful
931. # [17:48] <Sculptor> on*
932. # [17:48] <GarethAdams> dekiss: does anything there seem like it would tell you how to find extensions to the predefined set of metadata names?
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936. # [17:49] <dekiss> ok
937. # [17:50] <dekiss> what means robots to index and archieve the page?
938. # [17:50] <GarethAdams> dekiss: are you going to read anything I show you?
939. # [17:51] <GarethAdams> dekiss: I'm not going to tell you your answer when I've shown you exactly where the answer is
940. # [17:51] <dekiss> i did
941. # [17:51] <dekiss> but didnt understood u
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943. # [17:51] <dekiss> no is answer for last your question
944. # [17:51] <dekiss> haha
945. # [17:51] <GarethAdams> haha?
946. # [17:52] <dekiss> I think you are beign an idiot because you have no fucking idea about the answer
947. # [17:52] <dekiss> stop wasting my time now
948. # [17:52] <dekiss> thanks
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950. # [17:52] <GarethAdams> You don't see a link where it says "Extensions to the predefined set of metadata names may be registered in the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page"?
951. # [17:52] <GarethAdams> lol
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954. # [17:56] <dahlfors_> I really wonder how ppl like him will work out in work life... always needing someone to show him exactly what to do
955. # [17:56] <dahlfors_> :)
956. # [17:56] <dahlfors_> wouldn't employ those in our company at least
957. # [17:58] <GarethAdams> I sent him a MemoServ memo just to clear it up ;)
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985. # [18:17] <dekiss> whyI can't find anything about inline-block elements on w3c.org website? in the HTML5 standard section
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1078. # [19:44] <D[4]ni> hi people, right now i have something like this: http://jsfiddle.net/tR7rZ/
1079. # [19:45] <D[4]ni> now i don't want that img tag to be removed by the user, while still looking the same (float and stuff, so i can't just move the img outside the div)
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1081. # [19:45] <D[4]ni> additionally, i don't want the user to put anything before that image. does anyone have some hints to me how i would go for that?
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1087. # [19:49] <apr> hello?
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1295. # [22:29] <astro73|roam> is there a JavaScript event thrown when the server returns a 205 Reset Content to a request?
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1297. # [22:30] <astro73|roam> *to a form submission
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1330. # [23:06] <astro73|roam> that's unfortunate. I think i have to turn it into an AJAX form if i want to give the user feedback on 204/205 :/
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1370. # [23:49] <doomlaptop> to make browsers use autofill
1371. # [23:49] <doomlaptop> does the form has to have type="submit" input?
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1373. # [23:50] <doomlaptop> because i'm using js to post the form and it seems like it's not autofilling
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1388. # [23:57] <dannydage> can someone help me out here? the downarrow works for the first few sliders.. but for the fourth slider it doesn't work because I have another css class on that slider.. anyone have an idea what to do? http://colorworld.se/avion/index.html
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