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- # [14:09] <daslicht> bootstrap does not include modernizer ?
- # [14:09] <daslicht> by default
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- # [14:13] <daslicht> i see
- # [14:13] <daslicht> :D
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- # [14:36] <daslicht> what do you think guys, is it good even to use bootstrap (for the grid) and h5bp even for small projects , lets say with 7 static pages ?
- # [14:36] <daslicht> or does it make sense to just create my own stuff from scratch ?
- # [14:36] <daslicht> how do you think about this?
- # [14:37] <daslicht> isnt bootstrap + h5bp to much overhead ?
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- # [14:49] <daslicht> interesting issue : http://78.47.126.11/dev/responsive/initializr/
- # [14:49] <daslicht> open it in safarie and resize :D
- # [14:49] <daslicht> looks like the canvas animation is interfering with something
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- # [14:55] <moo-_-> daslicht: you don't use modernizr with boostrap
- # [14:55] <moo-_-> because boostrap assumes you have non-legacy browser
- # [14:55] <moo-_-> there is no benefit
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- # [14:56] <daslicht> but what happens if a onld broser comes across?
- # [14:56] <daslicht> chrome frame is shown?
- # [14:56] <moo-_-> daslicht: you can check this from Bootstrap docs
- # [14:56] <daslicht> and why does initializr include Modernizr?
- # [14:56] <daslicht> http://www.initializr.com/
- # [14:56] <moo-_-> but it was supported down to IE8 or IE8
- # [14:57] <moo-_-> daslicht: I suggest you ask directly from initializr authors who most likely are not here
- # [14:57] <daslicht> I thought maybe in herer got experience with this
- # [14:57] <moo-_-> daslicht: yes
- # [14:57] <moo-_-> but design decisions are always of authors
- # [14:58] <moo-_-> cannot comment why or why not they did something
- # [14:58] <daslicht> so what do you say to my question above?
- # [14:58] <daslicht> what do you think
- # [14:58] <daslicht> just curious
- # [14:58] <moo-_-> don't speculate because it won't make me any wiser
- # [14:58] <moo-_-> "we thought this is good idea"
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- # [14:59] <daslicht> i dont want you to speculate :) i just ask for you experience
- # [14:59] <moo-_-> I have no experience with initialzr
- # [14:59] <daslicht> have you read my question?
- # [14:59] <moo-_-> why does initializr include Modernizr??
- # [14:59] <moo-_-> (in question marks)
- # [14:59] <daslicht> NO
- # [14:59] <daslicht> the question from 14:36
- # [15:00] <moo-_-> scratch stuff?
- # [15:00] <moo-_-> grid?
- # [15:00] <daslicht> yeah
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- # [15:00] <moo-_-> if you are rolling out very custom layout, use some grid-only CSS framework
- # [15:00] <daslicht> and if it makes sense to use bootstrap for small sites
- # [15:00] <moo-_-> there are many
- # [15:00] <daslicht> skeleton?
- # [15:00] <moo-_-> daslicht: I would use Boostrap if it saves work from me
- # [15:01] <moo-_-> 960.gs is famous grid system
- # [15:01] <daslicht> ok
- # [15:03] <daslicht> do you have experience with canvas things and osx safari?
- # [15:03] <daslicht> it seams to handle text above a canvas as image :D
- # [15:03] <daslicht> when resizing the window
- # [15:04] <moo-_-> probably related to webkit rendering internals
- # [15:04] <moo-_-> which is very complex topic
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- # [17:16] <monk12> Do some browsers implement the html5 property but have null value stored in it?
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- # [23:21] <aschz> heello
- # [23:21] <aschz> :D
- # [23:22] <aschz> anyone to talk about html?
- # [23:22] <aschz> :)
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- # [23:56] <user_corrupt> I have a little web based speech recognition app going, and Im trying to use HTML5 microphone recorder to connect to it, instead of the flash that it currently uses: http://www.petarivcec.com/speech/speechapi/callbacks.html I also have this demo going that records audio with HTML5: http://www.petarivcec.com/speech/Recorder/ and Im trying to figure out how to just transport a stream of audio to another location... does anyone hav
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